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Do south/middle Americans see themselves as colonialists? And slave owners?

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YouAndMeDays · 10/02/2026 12:51

Watching Bad Bunny's Super Bowl half time show got me thinking. The Spanish and Portuguese were colonialists in South and Middle America, just like the English, Dutch and French in North America. They also benefitted from slavery. And they decimated the indigenous peoples.

Do they feel bad about this? They always seem to come across as feeling like victims of the USA. Are they paying reparations to the Africans they traded? And the indigenous people they more or less wiped out?

Is it because they didn't do as well as the USA, that this doesn't seem to be a question for them?

OP posts:
Arlanymor · 10/02/2026 23:42

CarolinaInTheMorning · 10/02/2026 23:34

I was adding to your comment, not challenging it, sorry if it came across that way. The original post referenced Bad Bunny who is Puerto Rican, and at least one other poster appeared to assume that Puerto Rico is in Central America.

That's how I read it too - that you were adding to it.

marcyhermit · 10/02/2026 23:58

Do they, as in individual Puerto Ricans or Argentinians, feel bad about Spanish colonisation in the 1500s?
No more than I personally feel bad about British colonisation 🤔

AdverseCambers · 11/02/2026 02:32

Why should anyone feel guilty?

My heritage is English and a country that was colonised, should I feel ashamed of half of myself and my other half feel downtrodden.

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suburberphobe · 11/02/2026 02:49

Research your history please.

The Dutch did not colonise North America, well except New York which was New Amsterdam....

Suriname is the colony in South America, formerly known as Dutch Guyana.

Why do you think the language in USA is English? Hint. The Pilgrims.

Which is why they are all religious nutters

suburberphobe · 11/02/2026 02:51

one other poster appeared to assume that Puerto Rico is in Central America.

What?!

Jesus, what with google to check it out why be so stupid to post that....?

Ah well, some people travel no further than their local village would explain it.

Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 11/02/2026 03:02

Sskka · 10/02/2026 18:00

Argentina is an interesting case actually because it had a sizeable black population which pretty much disappeared, and it isn’t really documented how or why. It seems from what I’ve read that they were simply absorbed into the white population through intermarriage.

I've also seen that process described as a form of genocide, so sometimes you just can’t win.

Well a lot of the Nazi’s escaped there.

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/02/2026 03:18

I have Hispanic friends. They are eloquent and educated on this. I think I would be casting pearls before swine though, and won’t waste their thoughts on OP.

isiteverokay · 11/02/2026 03:47

suburberphobe · 11/02/2026 02:49

Research your history please.

The Dutch did not colonise North America, well except New York which was New Amsterdam....

Suriname is the colony in South America, formerly known as Dutch Guyana.

Why do you think the language in USA is English? Hint. The Pilgrims.

Which is why they are all religious nutters

I thought it was Spain, the British empire and France that colonised North America, or am i wrong ? Wasn’t California once Spanish ruled/owned? And British empire had the east coast

knitnerd90 · 11/02/2026 04:29

The Dutch also have several colonies in the Caribbean.

(by the way New England is now the most secular part of the USA and Puritanism burnt itself out before independence: the Bible Belt came later. Also, Jamestown in Virginia preceded both Plymouth and Massachusetts Bay: the prominence of the Pilgrims is a bit of national myth-making and history rewriting.)

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