Innuit and Greenland

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https://www.humanium.org/en/denmarks-experiment-on-inuit-children-a-painful-legacy-of-forced-assimilation/

So 88% of Greenlands population are native inuit. In reality will these people object to being under US sovereignty when they have been horrendously treated historically by a colonial power (Denmark). I would think these people ultimately want independence but would a change of sovreignty massively impact their lives?

Would it just be easier for the Danes to sell Greenland to the US and money made available to improve Inuit lives in a way of their choosing and binding agreement that the US don't target inuit culture?

Yeah. Whilst we're at it we can sell Scotland to China, and the Spanish can sell Catalonia to the Saudis. I'm sure it'll be same difference to them.

Or is it just the Inuit that you think can be bought and sold like chattel?

That’s a big assumption to make without asking them. It’s almost of it you don’t think they should have their thoughts heard.

No, they want an independent Greenland mostly. Not taken over by a country who don't have the greatest track record on indigenous/First Nation rights.

The vast majority of Greenlanders don’t want to become American.

That’s the only thing that should matter.

This is surely a joke. (Not the article that raises important issues ) But thinking they would be better part of a country that currently has 5 Native Americans in ICE detention in Minnesota.

Across Indian Country, we are seeing Native American people illegally stopped, abused, or detained by ICE agents. It is hard to miss the irony of locking up the first people of this land in an immigration sweep,” said NARF Executive Director John Echohawk. “It’s indicative of the racial profiling that is happening, and we refuse to stand by while the United States government abducts Native people.”

Do you think the US would treat them any better, given that ICE are targeting Native Americans, they aren’t exactly showing themselves in the best light at the moment, are they?

Snap!

This

Great minds and all that!

Oh and "binding agreement" and a Trump administration are not exactly words you would put together now are they...

Worked well for the Native Americans. Not.

"A binding agreement not to target Inuit culture" you say... in Trump's America?

Sure, no problem, what could possibly go wrong?

I don’t think the best thing for native Greenlanders is being sold to America so they can have unlimited military presence on their island

You think that the best solution to the fact that Denmark has treated the people of Greenland as though they are not people worthy of human rights is for them to flog them and their country to Trump?

Trump isn’t going to be able to pull this off, imo.

Reported today that there are deep rifts in the Republican Party about this direction, although that was in the Graun so take with a pinch of salt. But still; it seems like it’s deeply unpopular in the US and even our little pound shop Trump, Farage has spoken out against tariffs on the U.K.

So perhaps this is the thing that will bring him down 🍿

I agree independence from a democratic point of view would be a decision for the Icelanders. My point is that the inuit probably don't care which colonial power is in charge as long as they can carry out their lives without intervention.

I just think the Danes cannot take a huge moral stand on this and a lot of the current tension is more about Danish pride than the inuit who make up 88% of thr population

Iceland is independent.

They can stay semi autonomous under the Danes, retaining their option of independence if and when the decision is right for them. Or they can become yet either state of America, lose the level of autonomy they have, live under the presidency of a madman and forever say goodbye to their dreams of independence. For what? A worse health system? Worse education? Worse rights?

They'd have to be absolutely bonkers to even consider it for a second.

You really think trump will care about Inuit culture and rights 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

he will find a reason to have them all locked up or shot in the face asap

if he can’t imprison, deport , kill them he will make them work for pittance in his oil refinery

you are so naive

Greenlanders have free education to university level , free healthcare and prescriptions , excellent social care, paid parental leave , a subsidy from Denmark of 55% of their running costs, and freedom of movement.

And they would give that up to live under Trump.. yeah

Well since that’s what you assume, it must be true. It’s a shame no one has asked them. Oh wait. They have.

And even if they hadn’t been asked, I find it really weird that you think the state benefits provided by Denmark (and by being EU citizens despite Greenland not being in the EU) would be happily given up to live in Trump’s America.

I was listening to radio 4 earlier when they were speaking to native Greenlanders about this - 85% of Greenlanders do NOT want to be taken over by the USA.

Icelanders live in Iceland, this is Greenland. If you're going to patronise them at least get that bit right.

Given that they've said they don't want to be American and would prefer to remain with Denmark, what are you basing this supposition on exactly?

Iceland and Greenland aren't the same place.

The US is not known for their good treatment of native peoples.

Most Greenlanders do not want to be part of the US. I don't really know what more there is to say on the matter than the latter sentence.

Why would you think that? Why would you believe the Greenlanders would have no view on the difference between Denmark and America?!

ETA Greenlanders aren't Icelandic!

Well the US don’t exactly have a glowing track record of treating native people and non Americans. Their history is pretty dire and these days they have the department ICE armed ready to shoot & kill. The US is not better than the Danes.

maybe better the devil you know.