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Innuit and Greenland

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mids2019 · 17/01/2026 18:41

https://www.humanium.org/en/denmarks-experiment-on-inuit-children-a-painful-legacy-of-forced-assimilation/

So 88% of Greenlands population are native inuit. In reality will these people object to being under US sovereignty when they have been horrendously treated historically by a colonial power (Denmark). I would think these people ultimately want independence but would a change of sovreignty massively impact their lives?

Would it just be easier for the Danes to sell Greenland to the US and money made available to improve Inuit lives in a way of their choosing and binding agreement that the US don't target inuit culture?

Denmark’s experiment on Inuit children: a painful legacy of forced assimilation - Humanium

In Denmark and Greenland, the legacy of colonialism continues to fracture Inuit communities through the treatment of Indigenous children.

https://www.humanium.org/en/denmarks-experiment-on-inuit-children-a-painful-legacy-of-forced-assimilation/

OP posts:
Itsmetheflamingo · 17/01/2026 20:23

“understand Trump is an idiot but really is this a hill to die on geopolitically”

I don’t understand this point- trump doesn’t give a shit what the UK thinks. How could it be their hill to die on?

ChurchWindows · 17/01/2026 20:24

is this a hill to die on geopolitically

If Trump gets away with this do you think he's going to stop?

ChurchWindows · 17/01/2026 20:29

"Would it just be easier for the Danes to sell Greenland to the US and money made available to improve Inuit lives in a way of their choosing"

Who is going to provide that money? The Danes out of the money they get (why would they?) or the US out of the kindness of their hearts and a general spirit of being good eggs?

MushMonster · 17/01/2026 20:31

OP, while you are at it, sell your back garden to Trump. The hedgehogs will be on better hands with him. 🤣🤣🤣

Let's leave Greenland alone. Only the few brave human beings that live there have any right to decide how they can live. If they do not want to become a mere shipping point and army base between US and Russia or have their landscape turned into a huge mine and quarry, then they do not have to. Nevermind how much Trumps wants it to be.
And nobody can possibly believe in good faith that Trump will respect their culture, land rights, air space rights, fishing rights or whatever rights. At this point in history Trump has made clear what he does, hasn't he?

knitnerd90 · 17/01/2026 20:31

Trump never pays his bills.

MushMonster · 17/01/2026 20:35

ChurchWindows · 17/01/2026 20:24

is this a hill to die on geopolitically

If Trump gets away with this do you think he's going to stop?

Nope, he will buy (by bullying the owners somehow) Montecarlo next.
Or Paris. Or London....
He will have US, Venezuela, the Golf of America, Panama canal, Greenland, Canada, Gaza, likely to go for Mexico too now that he is at it. He will need some country in Europe, Asia, ME, and Russia.... possibly Africa. Maybe we can try to appease him by offering Antarctica???

ZookeeperSE · 17/01/2026 20:45

mids2019 · 17/01/2026 20:14

OK there are two separate arguments but I don't think the US is going to hideously oppress the native population whi basically live a rural isolated traditional life.

The US if it wants will get Greenland and I think the Danes are at point that they should agree a price saving as much face as possible.

the native population who basically live a rural isolated traditional life

What on earth are you wanging on about? 90% of the population are Greenlandic Inuit. Who do think is running the government? Or do you think they’re all living in igloos and spearing fish?

Martymcfly24 · 17/01/2026 21:05

ZookeeperSE · 17/01/2026 20:45

the native population who basically live a rural isolated traditional life

What on earth are you wanging on about? 90% of the population are Greenlandic Inuit. Who do think is running the government? Or do you think they’re all living in igloos and spearing fish?

90% of Greenlanders live in one of the 16 towns there not a "rural isolated" existence.

But sure they are only natives...who cares what they think

Frequency · 17/01/2026 21:15

You're overlooking the real reason Trump wants Greenland @mids2019 . It's not for security reasons. He has that already. There are already US military bases in Greenland.

He wants to strip the land bare for oil and minerals, regardless of the environmental cost to Greenland and globally. Do you really think he is going to respect Greenlanders while he is tearing their country apart (literally) to make $$$. If a piece of land of cultural value is sitting on a giant oil well, do you think Trump will respect Greenlanders' culture and beliefs and leave it alone?

1dayatatime · 17/01/2026 21:18

mids2019 · 17/01/2026 18:41

https://www.humanium.org/en/denmarks-experiment-on-inuit-children-a-painful-legacy-of-forced-assimilation/

So 88% of Greenlands population are native inuit. In reality will these people object to being under US sovereignty when they have been horrendously treated historically by a colonial power (Denmark). I would think these people ultimately want independence but would a change of sovreignty massively impact their lives?

Would it just be easier for the Danes to sell Greenland to the US and money made available to improve Inuit lives in a way of their choosing and binding agreement that the US don't target inuit culture?

So regarding the one country's claim to land owned by another there tends to be two schools of thought:

  1. Geographical proximity- for example Spain claims Gibraltar because it's closer to Spain than it is to the UK, similarly for the Falklands and Argentina.
  2. Self determination- where the wishes of the people living there determine which country owns that land or whether it's independence for example the UK and the Scottish independence referendum or the Falklands referendum on staying part of the UK or Argentina.

On the latest opinion polls 85% of Greenland islanders would prefer independence.

Lastly and quite interestingly under a 1917 treaty between the US and the UK, the UK has the right of first refusal if Denmark was to ever sell Greenland. So although I firmly believe in the principle of self determination, if we are going down the sale of Greenland option then maybe the UK should buy it instead?

ChurchWindows · 17/01/2026 21:25

Having laid a rotten egg the hugely underinformed OP has fucked off.

Kelly1969 · 17/01/2026 21:32

Obviously this is rage bait as no sane person would ask this

Lonelycrab · 17/01/2026 21:34

Yup @Kelly1969 @mids2019

Lunde · 17/01/2026 21:36

mids2019 · 17/01/2026 19:25

I agree independence from a democratic point of view would be a decision for the Icelanders. My point is that the inuit probably don't care which colonial power is in charge as long as they can carry out their lives without intervention.

I just think the Danes cannot take a huge moral stand on this and a lot of the current tension is more about Danish pride than the inuit who make up 88% of thr population

You don't seem to understand the difference between Iceland and Greenland 🙄

.... and what if Trump decides that the Shetland islands are important to the US - do they get sold as well?

GrethaGreen · 17/01/2026 21:38

I can’t believe what I am reading from the OP here.

Lunde · 17/01/2026 21:39

mids2019 · 17/01/2026 20:04

I just think that viewing this as some new colonisation by the US is a mistake. To me this a Dane problem and we can ask where was the European support when the Falklands were invaded?

We need close military co operation with the US in reality and I understand Trump is an idiot but really is this a hill to die on geopolitically?

I would rather the US would just expand troop numbers in Greenland but if they desire sovereignty what resitiatance can Europe put up and the big question, is it really worth it?

British companies are going to suffer with tariffs and this situation could be solved by a climb down from Denmark and I think the greatest visit will be Danish pride.

It will be humiliating definitely but I think at this point you have to pick your fights and this a fight where the UK suffers needlessly.

I would rather incredibly sparsely populated Dnaish territory had a change of flag than NATO to be questioned at this point of world history.

Maybe ultimately the lesson will be that Europe has to invest a lot more in defence and that is the point Trump is trying to make (albeit badly)

Yet Denmark and Greenland have been very cooperative to the US and allowed the building of US bases on Greenland so why the need for a land grab?

Ask yourself what Greenland, Venezuela, Iran, Ukraine and Canada have in common?

OneBluntPinkDeer · 17/01/2026 21:53

What a weird thread.
Was on reddit (Ask USA or something) reading about the Trump/Greenland threats and a weird poster kept banging on about the lost Innuit children, like it's a justifiable reason for annexing the place. Absolutely ridiculed btw considering the shite the USA got away with.
30 minutes later or so there's a thread about it on MN.
How odd. Almost like there's a concerted effort to change the narrative.

Brefugee · 17/01/2026 22:00

mids2019 · 17/01/2026 20:14

OK there are two separate arguments but I don't think the US is going to hideously oppress the native population whi basically live a rural isolated traditional life.

The US if it wants will get Greenland and I think the Danes are at point that they should agree a price saving as much face as possible.

you are naive if not bonkers.

and/or a stooge of the US administration.

Stop it. Read a few papers and pipe down

Martymcfly24 · 17/01/2026 22:04

GrethaGreen · 17/01/2026 21:38

I can’t believe what I am reading from the OP here.

I do...

Oldfriendleave · 17/01/2026 22:06

Martymcfly24 · 17/01/2026 22:04

I do...

She's relentlessly pro Trump, pro Israel, and seeks to justify the unjustifiable again and again.

Ladyglittersparkleseriously · 17/01/2026 22:09

mids2019 · 17/01/2026 19:25

I agree independence from a democratic point of view would be a decision for the Icelanders. My point is that the inuit probably don't care which colonial power is in charge as long as they can carry out their lives without intervention.

I just think the Danes cannot take a huge moral stand on this and a lot of the current tension is more about Danish pride than the inuit who make up 88% of thr population

You are Donald Trump and I claim my £5

Oldfriendleave · 17/01/2026 22:17

There comes a time where we have to stand up against bullies.

Because that's what America has become. It's not our friend anymore - if it ever was. At some point it falls to the rest of the world to take a stand. Do we do it now when it's Greenland, or wait to see where the eye of Sauron falls on next?

I don't want to become poorer. I certainly don't want world war 3. America is counting on the rest of NATO and Europe backing down. It's time we showed them that we won't.

Trump has had a lifetime of taking what he wants. Consent is irrelevant to him whether it relates to sex or land. He's a rapist of women, and he wants to environmentally rape the land and leave it in ruins to line his own pocket. Even if I as a person, and us as a country suffer for standing up to this bully, I think that is exactly what we should do. One person standing up to a bully is hard, a lot of the world doing it will be a lot easier. We need to find our backbone and use it.

Zov · 17/01/2026 22:17

OMG, just when I thought I had read it all on here. Shock

HighStreetOtter · 17/01/2026 22:25

OP, where do you draw the line? What if Trump wants Northern Ireland or Scotland? Do we hand those over so we don’t get tariffs? I mean who cares about a few savage natives right!

Giraffehaver · 17/01/2026 22:29

Yeah, let's not think of Inuits as human beings, just herds to be owned. Disgraceful OP

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