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Should you be told if the meat you're served is halal?

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YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 13:14

If you go to a restaurant or cafe or cafeteria at work or whatever. Would you expect to be informed that they were serving halal meat?

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YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 15:04

MunicipalDarwinism · 13/01/2026 15:03

I would imagine that any employee who is concerned to know whether the meat served is Halal or non-Halal will have the wherewithal to ask, just as you did?

Edited

Perhaps.

But I would have thought it was assumed that meat is non-halal unless marked/labelled as such.

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Ellie1015 · 13/01/2026 15:06

Surely those that mind either way will ask?

MunicipalDarwinism · 13/01/2026 15:07

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 15:03

I couldn't give a shit about whether it's halal or not. I don't even eat meat.

I am just wondering if this needs raising or not, because some people would be incredibly upset to know they'd unknowingly been fed halal food. Just like some people would be incredibly upset if they hadn't been given halal meat..

If I was so against eating Halal that I would be "incredibly upset" about eating it, I would ask. I won't knowingly eat non-free range chicken, so I either don't eat chicken in canteens etc. Or I ask.

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Waterbaby41 · 13/01/2026 15:09

itsthetea · 13/01/2026 14:50

That is the uk compromise which seems fair enough to me

I might agree with you - but if I was of a certain religion I definitely would not!

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/01/2026 15:09

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 15:03

I couldn't give a shit about whether it's halal or not. I don't even eat meat.

I am just wondering if this needs raising or not, because some people would be incredibly upset to know they'd unknowingly been fed halal food. Just like some people would be incredibly upset if they hadn't been given halal meat..

It’s not ‘just like’ that’s the whole point.

blankcanvas3 · 13/01/2026 15:10

Waterbaby41 · 13/01/2026 15:09

I might agree with you - but if I was of a certain religion I definitely would not!

But they eat it, so they’re obviously not massively bothered. It’s the ‘blessing’ of it that’s important

GeneralPeter · 13/01/2026 15:10

SilenceInside · 13/01/2026 15:01

@GeneralPeter but vegan/non-vegan makes a material difference to the food you are being served. Halal/non-halal meat products are identical products.

You are right that vegan/non-vegan isn’t a material difference to me. I still think it should be disclosed, because many others think differently.

If lab-grown meat and animal-grown meat were the same stuff (which by one measure the y are) I still think a vegan should know which they are being offered.

EasternStandard · 13/01/2026 15:12

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 15:03

I couldn't give a shit about whether it's halal or not. I don't even eat meat.

I am just wondering if this needs raising or not, because some people would be incredibly upset to know they'd unknowingly been fed halal food. Just like some people would be incredibly upset if they hadn't been given halal meat..

Have they said this to you? That they would be upset that is

Tryagain26 · 13/01/2026 15:12

dollyblue01 · 13/01/2026 13:26

Yes I would like to know as I actively avoid halal meat and do not eat where they show they serve it either.

Do you also avoid Kosher meat?

MyThreeWords · 13/01/2026 15:12

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 15:03

I couldn't give a shit about whether it's halal or not. I don't even eat meat.

I am just wondering if this needs raising or not, because some people would be incredibly upset to know they'd unknowingly been fed halal food. Just like some people would be incredibly upset if they hadn't been given halal meat..

If you would be upset to have eaten halal meat, it is your responsibility to ask the provider whether it is halal - just as observant Muslims would ask the same question (if they didn't already know the answer).

That is so, so obvious and basic that I don't see what the issue is . Are you suggesting that the info should be publicised upfront, just like info about allergens? Why? No one will get ill from eating halal food. I can only see the concern as arising from a desire to problematise the fact that Islamic conventions are sometimes present in UK life.

MunicipalDarwinism · 13/01/2026 15:12

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 15:04

Perhaps.

But I would have thought it was assumed that meat is non-halal unless marked/labelled as such.

Have you asked why the canteen doesn't state the meat is Halal?

helplessbanana · 13/01/2026 15:16

I would expect their customers to be informed, yes. That way, everyone is then able to make an informed choice about whether or not to purchase that product.

Some people will actively choose to buy it and others will actively choose to avoid it. I would avoid it as I'm not comfortable with the method of slaughter, nor the Kosher way either, come to that.

UniquePinkSwan · 13/01/2026 15:16

No. I’m pretty sure it’ll taste the same so I’m not bothered

Tryagain26 · 13/01/2026 15:17

I don't understand why people always ask this question about Halal but never complain or ask whether the meat is Kosher.

Scrowy · 13/01/2026 15:18

I'd assume it was halal - most of the larger abbotoirs play piped prayer on the lines so that they can legitimately widen their market to anyone who wants their meat to halal. It makes zero difference to the meat itself though.

I only eat high welfare meat anyway but it wouldn't make any difference to me if they were playing prayers or Take That whilst it was being killed.

I'm assuming this post is part of a wider racist 'awareness raising' campaign happening at the moment. Some butcher friends have reported being called by lots of people asking if they serve halal meat in what is clearly quite an organised way.

Too cold for flag painting perhaps?

MyThreeWords · 13/01/2026 15:19

Crikeyalmighty · 13/01/2026 14:37

Yes I had a sausage sandwich recently and sausages were clearly Halal - I don’t object on the principle- I object because they taste horrible to me- I’m the same with most things kosher

Edited

Wait? What? Did they taste of prayers? I'm sure prayers are tastier than a lot of other words spoken at abattoirs. I for one can't stand the flavour of meat killed in the presence of someone who was nattering about Eastenders.

MunicipalDarwinism · 13/01/2026 15:24

Crikeyalmighty · 13/01/2026 14:37

Yes I had a sausage sandwich recently and sausages were clearly Halal - I don’t object on the principle- I object because they taste horrible to me- I’m the same with most things kosher

Edited

To be fair, most non-pork sausages are a bit rank imho.

stargirl27 · 13/01/2026 15:32

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 13:14

If you go to a restaurant or cafe or cafeteria at work or whatever. Would you expect to be informed that they were serving halal meat?

No I dont give a fuck

ZookeeperSE · 13/01/2026 15:34

MyThreeWords · 13/01/2026 14:58

Whoah! So it isn't the ethical issues around animal welfare that concern you? It is the thought that a prayer may have been uttered? Is't that a bit odd? If you aren't a believer, what significance can you attach to the fact that some words have been said?

There seem to be a lot of people on this thread that don’t think non religious people have the right to care about religious practices they don’t believe in. Which is odd as a lack of religion or religious belief is as protected under the UK equality act as religion or religious belief is. In fact it’s in the same Article.

There are plenty of people in the UK, who are non believers, and wish their children to be exempted from, for example, assemblies that include the Lord’s Prayer, or Religious Study lessons. And that is their right, by law, in the UK. It’s perfectly reasonable to think that it is important for some people to not have anything to do with any religious practice at all.

There also seems to be a lot of people who think because the meat trade is an inherently cruel and inhumane one, that the method of slaughter shouldn’t concern anyone. I find that odd as well. The practice of ‘sticking’ a stunned, unconscious animal is quite obviously less traumatic than that of sticking a conscious one that only reaches unconsciousness after enough blood has been lost.

However, it is true that this subject is raised often, in MN and elsewhere, and it is pretty much always Halal that is used as the example. The reality is (as others have mentioned) that if welfare really is the concern, then Kosher practices are more problematic. But for some reason they do not seem to provoke the same ‘concerns’ and so it is also a reasonable position to take that there may very well be an agenda for that.

All food should be correctly labelled, for all sorts of reasons, and actually that seems to be the direction of traffic in the UK at the moment. I’m unsure why labelling, and therefore, choice should be considered controversial. If it’s because of a fear of other agendas, then it’s those that should be tackled, where they arise.

stargirl27 · 13/01/2026 15:34

YouWillNeverGuessMyUsername · 13/01/2026 14:42

We're not served kosher meat, so no issues there.

We are served halal without being informed unless someone asks. I am just wondering if employees should be told directly or not.

I'd imagine they would ask themselves if they were that bothered! Unless you are a cook/cafeteria assistant I'm unsure what it has to do with you?

GRCP · 13/01/2026 15:35

Why would you avoid Halal meat? It just means it’s clean and has been killed humanely? (As humanely as it is possible to kill something anyway)

WinoTime · 13/01/2026 15:36

Houseshmouse · 13/01/2026 13:29

They are both killed against their will. Why is normal slaughter ok for you but halal not? Neither is quick and painless, if you think it is then more fool you!

This is the answer.

stop eating animals and you won’t have to worry about this

grimupnorthnot · 13/01/2026 15:36

Really makes no difference to me

TheJustJoker · 13/01/2026 15:39

Yes

MyThreeWords · 13/01/2026 15:44

There seem to be a lot of people on this thread that don’t think non religious people have the right to care about religious practices they don’t believe in. Which is odd as a lack of religion or religious belief is as protected under the UK equality act as religion or religious belief is. In fact it’s in the same Article.

But this isn't the same as, say, a child from a non-religious family being required to attend a religious service in school. Except in relation to the presence/absence of stunning (which I wasn't responding to) the only issue here is that some prayers have been said out of hearing of the non-believing person. If you don't believe, then those words that you didn't hear are literally without any effect. Equality Act protection for a non-believer just isn't engaged here. At all.

Eating halal meat accidentally is not a religious practice. The unbelieving diner has not been subjected to anything. Perhaps my neighbours prayed for good weather yesterday. That doesn't mean I have been bounced onto any religious experience or practice by enjoying the sunshine today.

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