Accents and Each Peach Pear Plum

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Where do you have to be from to make the last page of Each Peach Pear Plum rhyme?

Plum pie in the sun, I spy everyone!

My accent is a mess having moved a lot. I can see that it needs to be sun and everywun, but if I do it in my best European English RP I get everyone to rhyme with on. My native brummie give suuun through which doesn't rhyme with everywun either! Alan Ahlberg was a Midlander, so I thought it should work in brummie.

Plum isn't supposed to rhyme with one'. Plum is at the beginning of the line - it isn't meant to rhyme with anything! It's sun that's rhyming with one. SE / Home Counties here, and it rhymes for me too.

An 'e' on the end of the word doesn't make an 'o' sound like a 'u' though - otherwise 'gone' would sound like 'gun'! Honestly though - it's no good trying to apply logic to English pronunciation. Even if you limited yourself to RP, it still breaks its own 'rules' constantly. You only need to look at the cough, rough, though, bough, thorough, through example to see that.

I'm from London.

Sun and One rhyme.

Giraffe and scarf rhyme.

Same for me. South Wales with hardly any Welsh accent. But works with very Welsh accent too.

Won and one don’t rhyme to me.

I remember doing Phonics inset - although I point blank refused to teach it as I am hard of hearing AND have a South London accent, goodness knows why they made me do the 'training' - there was a comment regarding 'put', 'pull', 'full' and 'push', in some accents they are 'tricky' words, me and the other Londoners spent a good while working out how this could be, which we did finally!

I think you're thinking of it the wrong way round. Gone as I say it is not gunn, it's gonn. Then one rhymes with that. I say "one" completely differently from Alan Ahlberg. Not sure how else we can put it - we say one to rhyme with shone.

It was a while before I realised that "one and done" had become a thing because it (in many accents) rhymes. In mine it really doesn't. One and gone does 😁

@bloominoreilly eh up me duck! gis a croggy down the jitty and I'll share me sarnies

It’s that I don’t get - one rhyming with shone.

In say gonn too - but one is pronounced won, by me any way.

I say one the same way I say wan (as in pale complexion). They both rhyme with gone.

One rhymes with on and shone to me.
Sun rhymes with gun.

How do blue and blew not rhyme though?

NW England - for me gone rhymes with shone, on, John, one
Sun rhymes with fun, bun, done, gun.
scarf and giraffe don’t rhyme.

I'm smiling as I'm reading this and pronouncing words, trying to make 'one' rhyme with 'gone' instead of wun and I just can't do it - but at least it's civilised, good-natured discussion whereas some of these kinds of threads degenerate rapidly!

The thing I really can't handle with the north/south accent divide though is on Emmerdale when Belle Dingle keeps saying 'ner', and I'm frowning and trying to work it out. It's 'no'. She's saying 'no' pronounced 'ner' and I just get confused every time. Can't get my head around that one.

South West here. One rhymes with gun. Shone sounds like John. Giraffe rhymes with scarf for me. I also say barth and larth for bath and laugh.

Blew and blue rhyme too. I am trying to think how they don't but can't remember hearing anyone pronounce them differently.

We do have a quirk here in my town where we say led in bed instead of laid. I do say laid in other circumstance though.

That never occurred to me that one and done rhyme!