Accents and Each Peach Pear Plum

[Paaseitjes]

Where do you have to be from to make the last page of Each Peach Pear Plum rhyme?

Plum pie in the sun, I spy everyone!

My accent is a mess having moved a lot. I can see that it needs to be sun and everywun, but if I do it in my best European English RP I get everyone to rhyme with on. My native brummie give suuun through which doesn't rhyme with everywun either! Alan Ahlberg was a Midlander, so I thought it should work in brummie.

I really thought this was going to be about what accent you read the books in! (Probably because my now adult kids STILL quote 'Can't You Sleep Little Bear' with Little Bear talking in the high-pitched West Yorkshire accent I gave him!)

SW/RP here and Sun and One rhyme for me.

East Scotland. And of course sun and everyone rhymes.

Giraffe and scarf however very much do NOT (smartest giant in town by Julia Donaldson)

Rhymes perfectly with my Cov accent, which is only a couple of tones different to a Brummy un.

It rhymes for me. Am in NI. Makes a change! We really struggled with loads of the rhyming in children’s books. Julia Donaldson in particular.

Ah, my accent is black country way, but not quite far enough in to say you am. It's remarkable how much it changes through the region

😂 snap with a London / Home Counties type accent

The Smartest Giant in Town!

TBH most of Julia Donaldson is strongly accent dependent.

if I do it in my best European English RP I get everyone to rhyme with on

The RP accent doesn't rhyme 'everyone' with 'on,' @Paaseitjes . It rhymes it perfectly with the RP pronunciation of 'sun'. People with a non-RP accent sometimes unconsciously 'overcorrect' their variations from RP - veering into a different variation on the other end of the scale of variation. Could you be doing that.

Rhymes for me, eastern Scotland.

It rhymes for me.
Dublin

I speak posh/Southern English. Sun and one rhyme. My dp is from Bradford-they don’t for him.

South rhymes for me

I love that! It shows how much reading stories aloud means to children.

Can I just say, I love this thread...

I've been driving myself mad saying sun, one everyone to myself.

I've found that sun and one don't match completely as there is a slight uplift in sUn and wun is more on one level.

But if you say 'one' to rhyme with 'shone' then it won't rhyme.

Plum pie in the sun, I spy everyone!

Although I live in Yorkshire I grew up in South London.

Plum does not rhyme with one
Plum rhymes with dumb
One rhymes with gone

Rhymes for me
As do giraffe and scarf (it's the Barth/bath type argument!).

God - I knew the Smartest Giant and Each Peach off by heart - each DC had one of them as a favourite, both read daily for months.

SE almost RP type accent.

Sun and everyone don't really rhyme fir me, but they dont jar, and "pass" as a rhyme for me.

Giraffe and scarf are appalling, and really jar. I dislike that book for that reason.

My friend is a reception teacher in the South East with a Yorkshire accent and apparently it makes phonics a bit of a nightmare because some sounds just don't come out of her mouth in a standard way. Some posh parents have been quite arsey about it!

Is phonics just rubbish then?

I remember my mum being annoyed because a teacher tried to correct me when I was 4 years old to say haitch not aitch in the old way of doing it , in the pre-phonics era.

Perhaps nobody has figured out how to teach kids to account for accents! @FruityFrog

Yes you edited after I quoted.

I find accents so interesting! Especially in the UK where we have so many in such a short distance. Also language and phrases are so different too!

🤣 to me plum, one and dumb all rhyme-gone is the outlier!

I think the hatch/aitch thing predates phonics! I predate phonics and it was one of those tedious English class indicators in my childhood, along with saying “f” for “th” and dropping “g”s.

I remember doing an official looking test in junior school ( 80s, long before SATS existed), some kind of literacy test where we had to circle certain words on paper that rhymed.

I remember even at age 8 that the way I and my classmates said blue and blew did not rhyme, but to someone with a Liverpool accent they would rhyme.

It made me worry that I was choosing the wrong answer and would be deemed thick. ☹️

Sun and everyone rhyme perfectly for me btw.

Rhymes for me. Hampshire accent