Here we go…. Proves my point!

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News feed just popped up on phone.

Why have 5 children if you can’t afford them?. (Removed the names as not fair to post on here.)

I feel for them children not being able to do the things they love and enjoy But surely most people stop at 2/3 kids if they struggle.

Your point is what - that everyone can predict their employment status and health for the rest of their life in order to know whether they'll be able to afford kids?

Please do share your methods.

Mental illness
Give me a break
Not to ill to bang out a load of kids they cannot support and expect me to pay for
My g parents went thought WW2 with no mental illness they just got on with it as mist people do

Yes, people shouldn't have children they can't afford. But they do, and most civilised societies agree it isn't acceptable to forcibly sterilise people or lock them away from the opposite sex. So those children exist and shouldn't live in poverty because their parents are idiots.

It is not child benefit.

There is not, and never has been, a 2 child cap on child benefit!

It’s the universal credit benefit that is restricted to 2 children.

Sometimes people have children in comfortable circumstances and then their circumstances change. A parent may fall seriously ill, or become disabled or die. One or both parents may be made redundant. A parent may leave, and then not pay maintenance.

Shit happens.

I’m happy to pay taxes to keep children out of poverty. I’d rather pay to feed someone else’s child in a struggling family than pay the shortfall when billionaires and huge corporations refuse to pay their fair share.

Not to ill to bang out a load of kids they cannot support and expect me to pay for
So cannot work due to “mental health issues”, but can still fuck like rabbits and generate the kids.

Where does it say that the illness began before they had kids?

Child benefit is a gateway benefit

That poster didn't once mention mental illness?!

Anyone can lose their job or get run over by a bus, or get cancer.

That’s neither here nor there. I was replying to the figures in that poster’s comment. The woman in the screenshot in the OP will already be receiving child benefit for all her children. Because it was never called to two.

It says “had to stop work due to mental health issues”

Yes - I think that poster was referring to the OP not my post. What I don't understand is people interpreting "had to stop work due to mental health issues” to mean 'had mental health issues, stopped work, then made the choice to have 5 kids'!

I can't get my knickers in too much of a twist over my tax money going to give some children a reasonable upbringing to be honest. What's the alternative at this juncture? Forced means tested sterilisation? Or just let the kids starve?

Obviously in an ideal world they wouldn't have had 5 kids, but we don't and have never lived in an ideal world, and I'd rather the kids be fed and housed than not. It's not their fault their parents have made the choices that they have or ended up in the situation they have.

In the OP but not in the post they were replying to.

It isn't something I can get worked up about, especially as it's going on the children.

I’d have mental health issues if I had 5 kids!!!

These sorts of inflammatory stories about benefit claimants need to stop. You don’t know how people got to the stage where they need state help. First it was posts about immigration, then the disabled, yesterday it was private rental prices and now we’re moving on to the budget and 2 child benefit cap.

We pay taxes, we are a civilised society who look after those who need help. Tax is a fact of life. Getting your news from less inflammatory outlets would be a good place to start.

Proving what point? That children of people with mental health issues will get some chance at life ? That’s good isn’t it?

I am happy my taxes go to bringing a bit of joy to the children, an afterschool activity is hardly the height of luxury

In the OP the picture says mental health!!! So this comment is in regards to ‘Health’ comment.

Regardless of who's paying for it, I don't think anyone needs to have five kids. And yes, that includes for religious reasons.

You are telling me that a family of 7 were not on UC, receiving any child benefits and the rest….. and then they just fell on hard times! You are living in co co land! A reasonable family would question a second child, a third….. but five kids! It is a joke! And people are getting fed up of supporting it.

OP - on a 'so called' parenting site sharing this devisive content for clicks. Hope you are happy @MNHQ

Their mental health was probably used from having FIVE kids!!!! Christ almighty!

You're the poster who said she had to reduce her staff levels by 230% because of the budget aren't you. Funny old take on maths and life.