The BBC are screwed, aren't they?

[kinkytoes]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c891jp9j79do

Are we ever going to find out who actually made the monumental fuck up? Rather than just a homogenous apology from the top.

Is this person/people still working for them?

I actually understand why Trump is doing this. You can't just let something so wrong pass by or they'll just keep doing it.

Screwed? I dunno. The BBC will be hoping that if the case reaches the courts it’ll get endlessly bogged down and may outlive the nearly octogenarian litigant.
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Honestly, this thread is so depressing to read. The inability to see beyond your own biases is everything that is wrong with this world. The need to be right (as in correct) all the time, you must be exhausting to be around.

Perhaps the answer is that the BBC sometimes represents the right more favourably and sometimes the left. It’d be pretty difficult for an organisation as vast as the BBC with thousands of employees to be all one thing all the time. Panorama should have done better and someone should be held responsible. The ‘media’ have spent at least 3 decades behaving appallingly, perhaps it’s time for some tighter regulations on all forms of media. I’m frankly quite sick of listening to opinions as if they’re fact.

Not to have to pay for programming they never watch or listen to.

I have not paid my TV licence for about 5 years now (I just don't watch any live TV).

I lost faith in the BBC during the Covid crisis as they just became a propaganda machine for the Johnson government.

Frankly the concept of the TV is ludicrous in the digital age and the fact that people could be sent to prison for not having a licence is outrageous.

I can't stand Trump but in this case he is perfectly right to sue them and I hope that puts the final nail in the coffin of the bloated BBC. Trump is an elected president and the BBC allowed a manipulated speech to go on the air. They need to face the consequences.

There has been so many scandals at the BBC in the past few years that the government needs to intervene and fold it up.

Here's how to not pay the TV licence. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/broadband-and-tv/tv-licence/

The programme wasn't shown in the US, and I can't see how a court in the UK could agree that his reputation was damaged in the UK, given that the programme flew under the radar when it was shown a year ago. He'd probably win some paltry amount.

@SpidersAreShitheads Trump was acquitted of the impeachment for incitement in relation to January 6. Impeachment is simply an accusation.

BBC are hugely impartial but so is the majority of the media and press. Trump had been manipulating the media for his own agenda for years. Yes the bbc are completely biased but do not understand why trump has put himself on a pedestal of not having indulged in gutter press tactics himself.

It didn't fly under the radar, it was simply that most people thought that was actually what he said so there was no fuss about it.

No, most peiple knew what he said and what he meant and didn’t think he was misrepresented. If they watched it at all. What were the viewing figures?

Are they hugely impartial or completely biased? Make your mind uo.

Believing that they knew what he meant got the Beeb into this trouble in the first place. There is absolutely no excuse for a journalist to edit film so somebody says what the journalist thinks they mean. Many BBC journalists were unhappy about this being covered up once it was known. It isn't reputable journalism.

Are any of you who are so certain you know what he meant aware that in the middle of the speech he says " "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

Yes. But he (and we) knew they wouldn’t hear that bit.
The BBC didn’t make the documentary, incidentally

Have you actually read Michael Prescot's e-mail?

This isn't about Trump. It's about the BBC's persistent bias and abandonment of journalistic standards.

Saying that the BBC is a trusted source of news and always will be sounds like you're a BBC manager who can't imagine that other people outside W1 don't believe what you do and are a bit sick of being propagandised.

The "always will be" just sounds mad. Nothing lasts forever. Anyone who watched the Berlin wall come down knows that.

He did incite them, and then watched with glee. Let’s not pretend otherwise.

But you’re missing the point. The current threat of litigation by Trump isn’t about bias. It’s about people at the top n the BBC agreeing to someone editing footage to make it appear something it isn’t, and to then showcase to millions of viewers. It’s basically fraud. Trying to manipulate something to meet their own agenda. It’s shameful that a once great institution should have been reduced to this kind of corruption and game playing. Heads should roll, but I suspect, the same as they did for Jimmy Savile and other undesirables they employed, they will drag their feet.

It’s the second most trusted news source in the world. This wasn’t news though, so that’s irrelevant. If BBCNews has a bias it’s towards Farage (and therefore Trump) but again, it’s mostly in their discussion and opinion strands, not news.

So you don’t think the BBC did edit Trump’s comments, and that what they showed wasn’t messed with? Seriously?

There was a failure of oversight. But your bias is going to make you see it a particular way.
Heads have already rolled. DG and Head of News output.

If you read my comment properly you’d notice I didn’t say anything about Trumps threat of litigation. I was talking about the lack of flexibility in the beliefs of those commenting. I did in fact say that the actions of panorama were wrong so I’m not entirely sure what you think we disagree on.

The edit was wrong but it didn't change the anything about trump's speech. The BBC has reform on everything, Farage was on there constantly during Brexit. Tell me you don't understand the bias at the BBC without telling you don't understand the bias at the BBC l.

@Whistl3r can you quote the actual excerpts from Trump’s speech that directly incited the violence?

Again, I invite you to read Michael Prescott's e-mail.

This is what he said they were biased about:
Trump election coverage: Examples:
The splicing in Panorama
The misrepresentation of the Liz Cheney comment
Undue weight to one poll in contravention of its own guidelines
And loads more.

Racial diversity issues. Examples:
BBC Verify running a story about insurance companies charging black people more just for being black. The story was totally false and had to be deleted, it couldn't even be corrected it was so wrong.
Insecure job growth for ethnic minorities, report by TUC accepted uncritically by journalists who should have analysed the figures properly.

BBC Push notifications lack of coverage of immigration. Examples:

• Issues about the Bibby Stockholm boat which was being used to house asylum seekers
• New figures showing the £8m daily cost of housing migrants in hotels
• An extension of the use of hotels for Afghan refugees
• A warning from the then Home Secretary about the impact on social cohesion if boat crossings were not stopped.

Stories about Russell Brand and drag queens were however, plentiful on BBC Push.

Gender identify and trans issues:
Just too numerous to mention. The list of examples would go on too long, it needs its own thread. Basically the LGBT+ desk vetoed any stories that weren't favourable to trans ideology and all the language and ideas of this contested, controversial ideology were wholescale adopted. This is entirely inconsistent with the BBC's remit and it has been going on for at least a decade.

Israel and Hamas
Again, so many that it would need its own thread. Story selection and bias were numerous, use of Hamas supporters as reporters.

It's just not a serious idea to say the only bias is in favour of Farage.

Do you mean the BBC is right wing? Is that the bias you see?

I didn’t say that was the only bias. I don’t agree with all your examples - news can’t report everything.
Prescott isn’t squeaky clean himself.
https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/james-ball-exclusive-the-error-at-the-heart-of-trumps-bbc-attack/