I don't want to pay more fucking tax!

[marthainthemarket]

I am the sole earner in a family of four, earning just under 40k a year and getting probably fuck all or below inflation pay increase next year, if I am lucky enough to keep my job ( public sector and employer needing to make massive budget savings). I barely cope now.

I am so fucking angry that Labour fucked up the disability benefit cuts. Other countries don't have run away disability benefits crises because they have a proper assessment process that means they keep a lid on people getting disability benefits who don't really need them. But instead of dealing with that, they came up with a crap proposed cut that wouldn't have dealt with the actual issues and they couldn't defend.

And having fucked that up they are now raising everyone's tax. I hate them!

I can't easily absorb tax rises but I agree with what @Nickyknackered said.

Labour isn't fixing the foundations though. They're flailing round aimlessly taking the country towards bankruptcy.

I dont want to pay more tax, but i will IF it means services (NHS, education etc) can be properly funded.

Im struggling with the COL, but things like my water bill wind me up more than paying tax.

No it’s not ancient history, so you’re deciding to ignore, that the conservatives, who were in power for the last 14 years, should be held accountable for how our economy is now, Labour have been in government for just over 1 year and yet are getting all the blame.

Taxes going up are inevitable at this point. I think it would have been more honest to have done it last year - and have put it in their manifesto - instead of messing around upsetting the farmers and disencouraging employers from hiring more staff with NI rises.

Hilarious your comment in light of your user name.
Perhaps you are sitting pretty and tax doesn’t affect you.

I'm slightly baffled by a tax rise. I understand that more money is needed especially for the NHS and to improve public services. I can see that putting a penny on income tax is the easiest way to get that revenue. But won't people just reduce their spending (if they can obviously) by the same amount they loose by paying more tax? So if I'm £40 a month worse off because income tax goes up I'm going to spend £40 less a month. I may decide not to go out to eat or cut down on my Christmas spend. I appreciate that some households are massively stretched already and there isn't any thing to trim but if people reduce spending, that surely has a knock on effect on the economy too. If business profits go down that must impact growth. Perhaps I'm just being overly simplistic.

Anyone who thought this could be fixed in a year needs to give their head a wobble.

That will include Rachel Reeves with her spin on the first Budget then.

I have absolutely no confidence that Labour will fix anything, but that is what they are claiming to do. Same way they claimed they would give state schools the private school vat funds, apparently that isn’t happening either? Nasty liars.

EVERYONE who has mild anxiety / ADHD should not be subsided by the taxpayer. You can work fine. It's totally unsustainable and Labour is just kicking the can down the road til this problem is dealt with, and in what will probably be a disastrous way.

We're all getting poorer every year and this is just getting worse

Yes high time

I wonder if some of them manage to wriggle out of paying council tax somehow

I like your user name BTW, LOL.

I thought that was earmarked to go to state schools.
Has there been any improvement to state schools yet.

That’s lucky then, because everyone with mild anxiety/ADHD isn’t being subsidised. They are out working - I know because I’ve worked with a lot of them (and was one for a while - no subsidy here. Anxiety which I dealt with by changing jobs).

Totally agree re. Cameron. I'd like to wring his neck over Brexit. Quite apart from everything else, it also tore apart the social fabric of the UK, splitting it into two camps. 🤬

Makes sense to me. I wouldn’t want to he a self-employed person who provides a service that would be cut from a family budget—cleaners, personal trainers, massage therapists, nail technicians, etc. They’re the obvious “extras” that can be cut from the family budget.

If they re-nationalise the railway and then close the door for Farage on the way out that will be good enough, they are only there because people wanted rid of the Tories and Reform were not seem as a safe bet at the time.

100%. Everyone has a health issue of sorts because we are human and not perfect.

Going by the constant pleas from our headteacher in the newsletter, encouraging us to donate to the school fund, I would say not.

"splitting it into two camps. 🤬"

People who understand that the world functioned fine before the EU and those who are just too young or too brainwashed to ever get it.

Do you have memory problems about pre 2024? You'll have conveniently forgotten you said this by Christmas.

I'm wondering how bad it's going to be - I'm up in Scotland, so I pay the intermediate tax rate here. (Meaning that our taxes are slightly higher and our banding is different, so people on a modest income move into the higher rates at a lower wage.)

Exactly! The 2008 crisis, then 'Austerity', then Brexit & then Covid are the real source of problems we face now. Add in the current geo-political situation (we cannot avoid hte need to spend on defence) & the run-into-the-ground NHS (& an ageing population & some youngsters who were badly affected by Covid (my own Ds has heart damage). But, yes OP, lets blame Labour not cutting disability benefits enough. Everyone wants good services & no one wants to pay.

Yet every time anyone says that people (and countries) should live within their means…all hell breaks loose. And if you try to pay for service yourself rather than just taking what you’re ‘given’ (paid for with money they took from you and then spent ineffectively) they tax you again.

Labour are about to rinse you for every spare penny (and then some). The country is fucked. One hell of a reset is coming and it’s going to hurt, so hunker down.

You cannot keep upping tax. Eventually you have to address the massive elephant in the room but Labour bottled it.

I am happy to pay more tax if we see things for it in Education and Healthcare. Not pissing it up the wall on the Waifs and Strays of the world and people that prefer not to work.