Can someone explain to me why/how the Labour government has directly made them worse off in the last 15 months?

[MotherofAdults]

Can someone explain to me why/how the Labour government has directly made them worse off in the last 15 months? I see this claim a lot on these pages, but I don't understand why. Sorry if I sound stupid, I am just trying to get clear.

I totally understand that the cost of living keeps going up - that inflation keeps rising (3.5-3.8%?) and that mortgage interest remains relatively high, but I don't understand why or how this is the fault of the current government? What have/haven't they done? Are people angry that they haven't curbed inflation? What should they be doing?

If we could avoid mentioning the things that didn't actually happen (eg the Winter Fuel Allowence cuts) and speculation about what the next budget will do (doubling of council tax, rise in minimum wage etc), that would be really helpful. I am looking for actual changes made by this that have directly affected your financial situation since Labour got it.

Agree too

Labours "freebies" were declared and all above board, thats how we got to know about them.

The stuff that happened during Covid was hidden and was corrupt, we needed an inquiry to get to the bottom of who and why....

As you ve made the allegation of Corruption, i assume you can back it up?

And the undeclared three quarters of a million funding for Starmer’s leadership election?

Yeah apart from he didn't, it was a totally different set of donations to the left of centre think tank Labour Together.

Electoral Commission fined them separately and confirmed Starmer took none of this money for his election bid....

Try again...

Declared once exposed by the press is not the same as openly declared of their own free will!!

You don’t get fined £14,000 because everything was fine.

It wasn't Labour or Starmer that got the fine... which was the point i was making.

It’s the fact that the NI rise for employers has impacted my work and made things harder.
I know this as I have talked to management about the reason why jobs have been cut.

The response I got was along the lines of I worked for companies with bad business models.

A lot of the “companies” I work for are either multi national companies on the Nasdaq or London stock exchange or government agencies.
If only a few of these companies have a bad business model then I think that people should be very worried as some of these companies are linked to peoples pensions.

It is the dismissive attitude that companies should pay and the failure to realise that companies are businesses (including those linked to the government) and need to show a profit or not go over budget. And any extra expense is going to have to come from taking away something somewhere.

Its akin to having a manager giving you someone to help you with a job but whilst the thought was there the reality is the person is a hindrance and just makes your life harder

I haven’t got onto the upturn in racism and not feeling safe since Labour got into power

I always felt that there was a background of racism but nothing so blatant I could put my finger on.

Now the racism is blatant.

Nope, most had already been declared... No rules were broken.

What he was guilty of was hypocrisy - i couldn't believe he had accepted so many high value gifts.

The press already knew about most of these gifts, because they has seen the book on members interests, they waited until after the election for maximum affect - wonder why?

Probably because of the hypocrisy in his campaign. That hypocrisy may be why Labour got more than half a million fewer votes in 2024 than in 2019 when the Conservatives got a 162 seat majority.

This little exchange is top mumsnetting, made me laugh out loud. @PeninsulaOfDoom , you really nailed the hypocrisy of the virtue signalling posts.

“It is AI that is coming to take the entry level jobs. If anyone else watched Dispatches on this you'll know what a threat it is across the board and how quickly it is being adopted by big business to save money. Money that is not then going into our economy.”

@6thformoptions - of course it is. If Labour were proper creative thinking Marxists with some vision, they would realise that AI is the biggest Marxist opportunity for Central Government for many centuries. But they are not visionaries at all. They will just shove it down our kids throats via Maths, Science and data science bullshit in the curriculum hoping that will do it, 20 bloody years too late into the future.

Um - Ange not paying the correct stamp duty and then tried to blame her lawyers. They were forced to issue a statement to save their reputation.
Then of course Rachel Reeves pretending she thought her agent would organise the license to rent her property, but then the emails came out which proved they reminded her husband several times. Then of course in 2021 the Labour Party found guilty of more than 20 breaches of undeclared and misreported donations, leading to significant fines. Shall we talk about Tulip and her facing a trial for severe corruption allegations.
Or Giftgate, where Starmer was found to have accepted lots of expensive gifts. Or shall we talk about Mandelson who was a bestie of Epstein, even after he was found guilty of underage prostitution? I could go on, but it’s getting boring.

Oh give over.
Read the report about all the corruption, written by the LSE . Or are you going to say the best School of Economics is also corrupt?

You really do have a quite unsuitable user name, there is zero analytical about you or your posts.

You've completely re written history, Reeves found to have done nothing wrong by the same guy who found Rayner had acted improperly.

Can't have it both ways.

LSE wrote no such report into Labour corruption, i ve read it - its about public perception.

I voted Labour, but they have been beyond useless. One of my kids is a senior director in a top business restructuring role. They have never been busier. It’s not looking good. The administration team is turning work down.

Reeves broke the law renting out her house without a license - that she claimed she didn’t know about despite campaigning on it and being reminded about it. Even the letter from the agent offering to apply for one for her was only offering to do so after it was let so after she had broken then law.

I think covid under Johnson was hugely mismanaged. I think there would have been a lot less corruption under Labour - so many legitimate, experienced PPE suppliers couldn’t get a look in. It cost a fortune and we had a high death toll - countries that acted faster had a lower health toll and lower cost and faster recovery. Johnson even said long covid was bollocks, whether because he believed it or just didn’t want to address it or just didn’t care (who knows with him) - now we have economists talking about the billions long covid is costing us, as well as the human cost.
Labour were also pushing for decent ventilation / cleaner air e.g. HEPA filters in schools to help reduce covid spread and help keep schools open. Given how much long covid in children has increased (average of 1,000 new cases of paediatric long covid per week in England) for omicron and how much onward spread there is from schools, this would have (still would) been sensible (not just for covid obviously). I’m also someone living with the mortgage impacts of Truss. I have voted Tory before so maybe just desserts. I’m not impressed with Labour, but ffs a sloth in a coma could have mounted a better response to covid than Johnson did.

Except there is far more Covid in schools now than there was in 2020/2021. We still have no ventilation. We are having to deal with parents sending in pupils, knowing they have Covid. Then they sit with you in rooms with no windows or ventilation. Labour are still not providing any money to improve this.

I think they would have done if in power then, when politicians were still allowed to mention the “c” word. Now they’re too scared to mention it, even though they know it is cost effective - spineless as fuck, with big consequences.

They put up NI which was the last straw for a lot of companies who subsequently folded. Including the one my Dd worked for so she was made redundant in Jan and hasn’t worked since. Job market is dire.

And lots more on the verge of collapsing.

So you complain about NI and other tax rises but want more money for infrastructure such as this.
We ve a collapsed prison system - read the Wandsworth prisons report?

Collapsing road network, inadequate military defences, requiring billions to upgrade - its never ending the list of problems facing the UK.

Economic growth takes too long, even if possible, bear in mind, hardly any country in the G20 is managing to grow their economies, so the only source of revenue is from us or we cut services?

So more Austerity, which really does hammer growth and employment.

And how many prisoners are waiting deportation? Now we are faced with a sex offender on the loose. Once they are found guilty, deport immediately. How many billions are being extorted from people through illegal businesses, did you see the report on the rise of the Mini Marts? None of them paying tax, led by criminal gangs. Have you seen the rise of disability and unemployment benefits? Have you seen the millions of benefit money sent overseas?
All councils now face financial ruin because of social care and the rise of EHCPs being sought.
Are you aware of the damage to local economies the WFH employees are causing. But they all want local services and expect other people to go out to work. All the above are relative easy to fix and would fill the economic black hole immediately. Stop putting the burden on honest people, many of whom are on their knees.

Employers NI should not have been raised. People are right to rage against that.

Most people will grudgingly accept tax rises but the government is not tackling waste or low productivity. There is little chance much of the much needed money needed for infrastructure projects making it there.

You can't just tax you way out of a crisis.