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SerendipityJane · 18/11/2025 16:31

AcrossthePond55 · 18/11/2025 16:26

@SerendipityJane

I don't think MAGA will ever completely go away. It's basically a re-formation of the old Tea Party (on steroids). Or at least, the former Tea Party-ers rallied to it.

They may disavow Trump and then will hopefully fade into the background. But at some point they'll emerge 'rebranded' with a new figurehead. But I don't think they'll ever find anyone like Trump, thank God.

Maybe they should rebrand as the 'Cicada Party'; they live underground, only emerge every ~18 years, make a huge mess everywhere, and make a horrible cacophonous din.

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I can't help but feel we are entering the "Donald who ?" phase of the gaslighting that is going to be happening.

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 17:45

He is hosting the Saudi Crown Prince, I don't think JD will point out that he isn't wearing a suit.

Serpentstooth · 18/11/2025 18:14

Someone please explain to me why this Democratic hoax has resulted in prison sentences for JE and GM and the defenestration of Prince Andrew (who believed he'd paid off his accuser to the tune of £12m, despite having never met her), Mrs Andrew and probably the junior Andrews as well. It seems a lot just to blacken the sacred name of Bigly Pig and his spotless reputation.

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DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 19:38

304 v 129

The House has passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

Igotjelly · 18/11/2025 19:41

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 19:38

304 v 129

The House has passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

Have they? I can only seem to see news sites saying voting is about to finish.

Zofloramummy · 18/11/2025 19:48

Sky News is reporting 427 in favour of releasing the files

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 19:48

Igotjelly · 18/11/2025 19:41

Have they? I can only seem to see news sites saying voting is about to finish.

The Lincoln Project tweeted it, maybe a bit premature as the counting is still ongoing so don't pay attention to the numbers, apologies for that.

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 19:50

Zofloramummy · 18/11/2025 19:48

Sky News is reporting 427 in favour of releasing the files

BREAKING:

The House just passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act, 427-1.

Republican Clay Higgins was the lone 'no' vote.

Igotjelly · 18/11/2025 19:52

Now to the Senate (maybe). Can’t say I hold out much hope. The victims are so incredibly brave.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/11/2025 19:52

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 19:38

304 v 129

The House has passed the Epstein Files Transparency Act.

The Mirror is saying "216 Republicans and 211 Democrats voted in favour of passing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, with just one Republican voting against passing the bipartisan bill."

CBS says the same: "216 Republicans and 211 Democrats voted in favour of passing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, with just one Republican voting against passing the bipartisan bill."

SerendipityJane · 18/11/2025 20:54

MTG seems born again ...

BeeWitchy · 18/11/2025 21:06

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 18/11/2025 19:52

The Mirror is saying "216 Republicans and 211 Democrats voted in favour of passing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, with just one Republican voting against passing the bipartisan bill."

CBS says the same: "216 Republicans and 211 Democrats voted in favour of passing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, with just one Republican voting against passing the bipartisan bill."

I’m starting to think Trumps days as President just might be nearly over. Members of the House have voted and it’s a a reflection of what their constituents want. I’m thinking we will see Senate vote go the same way.

Trump may refuse to sign but as pp noted his veto can be overturned.

I was watching a video of one of the survivor victims yesterday and her lawyer, Gloria Allred. Allred noted that Trump could have just had the files released himself - he has that power.

No doubt by the time I’ve written and posted this there will have been further major developments. Things are moving fast.

Trump was playing the Jan 6er choir at full blast from the White House the other day. He also played one of the songs from Phantom of the Opera. I read he likes to do this - playing DJ -usually at Mar a Lago. Katherine Leavitt did announce they’d had a new biggest and bestest sound and speaker system installed at the White House.

Nero fiddling?

Igotjelly · 18/11/2025 21:08

I see bombing of Venezuela or some other such nightmarish action coming imminently.

PerkingFaintly · 18/11/2025 21:42

Well, I've long believed that the people for whom Trump is just the attention-sucking frontman who hands them the keys to the office – Steve Bannon, Stephen Miller, Peter Thiel et al – will dump him as soon as he stops being useful and starts being a nuisance to them.

I think they'd be happy to watch him take himself down as long as he also takes down a large enough swathe of their opposition with him. I'm expecting insane quantities of Epstein-related allegations against anyone who's ever crossed Trump, bolted to a rhetoric of "Either everything's true or nothing's true."

Obviously when Trump does eventually go down, perhaps by Republicans using the 25th Amendment, it will simultaneously be:

a) the fault of The Left/Feminists/Atheists/BogyeymanOfTheDay that he has been removed, and

b) the fault of The Left/Feminists/Atheists/BogyeymanOfTheDay that he was in power in the first place.

And we'll have to listen to a reprise of all that tedious Brexiteer whining that, "You didn't stop us hard enough"; and identical whining about the Trump-appointed judges reversing Roe v. Wade.Hmm

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 22:40

Schumer: The Senate has now passed the Epstein bill as soon as it comes over from the House.

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 22:54

The Senate passed the Epstein bill by unanimous consent.

The bill will automatically pass once it's delivered to the Senate and will then advance to Trump's desk for him to sign — possibly as early as this evening.

Spandauer · 18/11/2025 22:55

Things happen.

"Things happen.”
That was how President Trump described the murder of the columnist Jamal Khashoggi on Tuesday afternoon while sitting beside Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi ruler whom the C.I.A. believes approved the killing.
In an Oval Office meeting full of news-making moments, that comment by Mr. Trump was perhaps the most astonishing one, and it came just a few moments after he opened up the room to questions.
It was the ABC News journalist Mary Bruce who asked about the finding by U.S. intelligence officials that Prince Mohammed had ordered the killing of Mr. Khashoggi. “Your royal highness,” she said, turning to Prince Mohammed, “the U.S. intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. 9/11 families are furious that you are here in the Oval Office. Why should Americans trust—”
At that moment, the president cut in, his voice vibrating with anger.
“Who are you with?” he demanded to know.
...
You’re mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial,” Mr. Trump said, referring to the murdered columnist. “A lot of people didn’t like that gentleman that you’re talking about. Whether you like him, or didn’t like him, things happen. But he knew nothing about it, and we can leave it at that.”
(From NYT)

Meanwhile his family is busy, busy...grifting in Saudi Arabia.

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Spandauer · 18/11/2025 22:57

Apparently Trump has said he will sign the Epstein bill.

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DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 23:12

Spandauer · 18/11/2025 22:55

Things happen.

"Things happen.”
That was how President Trump described the murder of the columnist Jamal Khashoggi on Tuesday afternoon while sitting beside Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the Saudi ruler whom the C.I.A. believes approved the killing.
In an Oval Office meeting full of news-making moments, that comment by Mr. Trump was perhaps the most astonishing one, and it came just a few moments after he opened up the room to questions.
It was the ABC News journalist Mary Bruce who asked about the finding by U.S. intelligence officials that Prince Mohammed had ordered the killing of Mr. Khashoggi. “Your royal highness,” she said, turning to Prince Mohammed, “the U.S. intelligence concluded that you orchestrated the brutal murder of a journalist. 9/11 families are furious that you are here in the Oval Office. Why should Americans trust—”
At that moment, the president cut in, his voice vibrating with anger.
“Who are you with?” he demanded to know.
...
You’re mentioning somebody that was extremely controversial,” Mr. Trump said, referring to the murdered columnist. “A lot of people didn’t like that gentleman that you’re talking about. Whether you like him, or didn’t like him, things happen. But he knew nothing about it, and we can leave it at that.”
(From NYT)

Meanwhile his family is busy, busy...grifting in Saudi Arabia.

Just look how happy he is with his new buddy

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5wecvrfj62m

Evenstar · 19/11/2025 09:59

😂

Cobwebs in Congress, Bigly Ballrooms, Tariff Tantrums, Dementia Denials - Trump Thread #150
AcrossthePond55 · 19/11/2025 14:20

So the resolution is on its way to SCROTUS' desk. His options are; sign it (as he said he would), leave it lie (it automatically becomes law), or veto it (wouldn't put it past him).

The thing is, these files could then be tied up in various 'investigations', heavily redacted for 'national security' or tied up in other red tape for who knows how long. And since SCROTUS is apparently so 'willing' to release them I can only assume that it's because there is already a plan in place to see that anything damaging pertaining to him is either doctored or removed.

DuncinToffee · 19/11/2025 15:29

Comer said this morning on Fox that there might not be an Epstein List, despite it being on Bondi's desk not that long ago.

Spandauer · 19/11/2025 16:50

This is going as well as expected.

NEWS: During a hearing in federal court in VA, prosecutors confirmed that the operative indictment in the case against James Comey was never shown to or voted on by the entire grand jury before it was presented in open court.

Defense counsel argued that’s a complete bar to further prosecution.

MORE: Under questioning by the judge, prosecutor Tyler Lemons said that he’s under orders from the Deputy Attorney Generals’s office not to disclose whether there is a declination memo recommending against the prosecution of Comey.
bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3m5yoqty6k22w

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 19/11/2025 17:10

DuncinToffee · 18/11/2025 23:12

Just look how happy he is with his new buddy

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5wecvrfj62m

This is the germ-phobic Trump, who was afraid disability might be catching and wouldn't go near injured veterans in wheelchairs, right?

I suppose grabbing someone by the hand is preferable to grabbing them by the pussy.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 19/11/2025 17:27

Spandauer · 19/11/2025 16:50

This is going as well as expected.

NEWS: During a hearing in federal court in VA, prosecutors confirmed that the operative indictment in the case against James Comey was never shown to or voted on by the entire grand jury before it was presented in open court.

Defense counsel argued that’s a complete bar to further prosecution.

MORE: Under questioning by the judge, prosecutor Tyler Lemons said that he’s under orders from the Deputy Attorney Generals’s office not to disclose whether there is a declination memo recommending against the prosecution of Comey.
bsky.app/profile/annabower.bsky.social/post/3m5yoqty6k22w

So he refused to disclose to the judge on the say so of the attorney general? Or have I misunderstood?

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