Kebatu wasn't really "on the run"

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This is annoying me because the media keep saying he was on the run but - as far as I can tell - he was let out under very strange circumstances (in prison tracksuit etc), is not a native English speaker and probably didn't have a complete understanding of what was happening.
At what point would a mistakenly released prisoner say "I think you have made a mistake"? Particularly one with limited understanding of the criminal justice system.
The crime he committed was terrible and I am glad he is being deported, but his mistaken release was not his fault and he didn't really go "on the run", just got on with the situation he was presented with.

I lived in a foreign country for a while - I spoke the language quite well and enjoyed being there but I took no real interest in the politics or current events in that country. I was only there temporarily and I never even glanced at the newspapers or watched the news. Even when I did, I didn’t know who any of the people were or anything being discussed so it completely washed over me. I could have been the most wanted person in that country and I wouldn’t have known! I still knew everything that was going on at home though.

Everyone seems to be missing the point that this poor confused victim managed to make his way to the UK presumably without speaking all the native languages of the countries he passed through?
The fact he was then asking to be deported suggests he is not fleeing anything.
Horrendous incompetence from the authorities involved but in terms of safeguarding and his welfare, he seems to have proved himself capable of getting where he wants to go.

I thought the same OP. What he did was worthy of a sentence, but wouldn’t it be great if all rapists had several days airtime?

I agree, the media hyping up the police as having hunted him down 😭😭

The man tried to hand himself in didnt he?

Weird reporting.

Glad hes gone though. Scum.

Im never sure why we have a system of imprisoning criminals who will then be deported. Why are we spending money on them in the prison system when we could just deport them there and then?

Because to do otherwise would incentivise traffickers, high level drug dealers and other serious organised criminals to use trafficking victims and mules, safe in the knowledge that the worst that will happen is a quick ticket home.

Yes but then it makes no odds to the UK or the safety of the rest of us if the person is away out of society because they're in prison, or away out of society because they're in another country. And many people come here expecting to stay here so it would be punishment enough that they're instantly deported.

The only difference is that its costing the country millions, if not billions to deal with criminals that are not UK citizens and never will be.

Just pop them straight on a plane? I imagine the bureaucracy takes a little longer.

For one thing, what would happen if the people at the other end put him straight on a plane back?

I don't think they can if he's their citizen.

Shamima Begum had her citizenship withdrawn so she couldn't just be sent back here. I know that situation is unlikely in this case but I imagine there are procedures to go through.

"He doesn't sound particularly dangerous"

This is a man who was only in the country for 8 days when he tried to kiss a 14 year old girl and asked her to go to his room "to make babies". He then tried to kiss another woman and put his hand on her thigh. He was described by the Probation Service as manipulative and yet you don't think he's dangerous.

This is standard for all prisoners as well as being released in a prison tracksuit if they’ve nothing else to wear and having their belongings in a plastic bag.

Obviously the initial offence was very wrong, but he hasn’t actually done anything wrong upon his release. It’s likely he doesn’t have good English, access to media or have any idea about handing himself in.

If only white British men were arrested and imprisoned for doing things like that the world would be safer for women and girls.

Are you implying that if a white British man randomly approached a 14 year old girl and tried to kiss her and invite her back to his room for sex that he wouldn't be arrested?

It makes huge odds to the UK and the safety of the rest of us! If the UK's policy is simply to send offenders home without serving a day of their sentence, then drug dealers, serious organised criminals, money launderers etc. will all flock to set up shop in the UK knowing that the worst that happens to them (or their mules and underlings) is they get a free plane ticket home. They can then re-enter illegally and carry straight on, again knowing that if caught they'll face a stern word and a free plane ticket home again. You may as well send them a handwritten invitation. It would make the UK a massive crime capital.

No, not dangerous. When you work with offenders and complete risk assessments in the light of what sort of risk someone would pose to a child, this isnt dangerous. Its predatory and abusive, unpleasant, illegal, potential grooming but not dangerous in the way we mean dangerous.

You do realise that thousands of women and girls in the UK are raped every year and man know the likely good of them be arrested is about 3%. If only all those flag wavers were willing to shout about that!

He didn’t escape.
He didn’t break out.
He wasn’t “on the run”

Yes, his crimes were awful. He deserves to be in prison and be deported. But I am relieved for him that he has been found because he was at risk of harm himself.

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When I was a teenager in the 70s it wouldn't even have been worth reporting. Not saying that's a good thing, it definitely isn't, but many men get away with worse things than that. It's a good thing he was arrested for sexual assault and sent to prison but if a middle class white man did it I doubt he'd be in prison in fact I know of several cases like that.

What I don't understand is that it's not just one officer that will sign the release form.
I have been told it's at least 3 different officers in 3 different parts of the prison that sign the release.

The only reason why we know about this man is because the locals kicked up a massive fuss outside the hotel when they found out about his behaviour. They went there en masse and protested. The media picked up on it, and the story was really about the protestors.

He was charged and went to court, but my bet is they had to be seen to punishing him as the whole country is a tinderbox over asylum seekers ATM.

The truth is there are far, far worse examples of these undocumented men and their violence, and assaults against women. I’m surprised that I don’t see it discussed on here. It’s just that this incident resulted in protests, the others didn’t.

This is quite a recent story. He got a year in prison. How much of that did he serve, because it only seems a few weeks ago that he was sentenced.

It's a pity people don't 'kick up a massive fuss' when a man who isn't an asylum seeker commits acts like this then.

Do you kick up a fuss then?

Yep a delivery driver saw him he was outside the prison for 2 hours and kept trying to go back in the prison asking what was happening and where he was supposed to go.

its absolutely the prison services fuck up. He was clearly confused and they shooed him off the premises repeatedly.

he went to Iceland ffs, he wasn’t hiding was he.