Money doesn’t by class

[Theweedygarden]

Mumsnet is full of people who go on about their large salaries and how much money they have. Great. You have money.

But, god, you have no class, empathy or ability to understand how much others struggle. Being wealthy does not give you a right to be nasty and smug and superior to people who can’t afford to spent ££ on a rug or their food shop, or their bloody Christmas turkey,

Lots of people on mumsnet might claim to be wealthy, but they’ve definitely got no class or empathy.

Edit; and my dyslexic self spelt buy wrong! Sure that’ll anger people!

This is ironic since most of mumsnet do appear to believe they have brought their way into the middle classes 😂

What does this mean?

genuinely don’t understand your point.

That makes zero sense. ‘Brought’ what?

Bought- sorry, I misread by edit, I’m not very good at grammar. Im not sure it was that hard to work out though?

Wind 'em up and watch 'em go, eh OP?

Mumsnet is the home of everyone who is a member believing they are middle class, mainly driven by home ownership and having a degree.

I know what you mean, OP.

It’s not everyone well-off on here, of course, but the lack of understanding of life at the poorer end of society, the lack of empathy for those who aren’t as successful in life, the ‘othering’ of poor people and disrespect for workers in jobs some might consider menial, it is ugly and very sad to see. Patronising comments about spelling upset me. Not everyone could go to university and I don’t like to see that looked down on either.

Thankfully, in the threads where it gets quite nasty, usually some more reasonable or kind posters come along.

Weirdly I see it mainly the other way on MN- people desperate to say they are WC despite being a magic circle lawyer whose parents were teachers, because their grandfather was a miner.

In UK today it’s perfectly possible ( if not v common) to go from WC to ( at least passing as) UMC in one generation. Can’t become UC but not sure anyone really aspires to that. UMC hold all the cards.

Hear hear.

I'm MC, but I own it. Anyone who says they're oblivious to class lives in a MC bubble and doesn't know it.

I was fucking livid at the way the WC staff were treated by UC trustees in a small charity I worked for - I spoke out against it, because I could see how my colleagues were really nervous of the prejudice they faced. I didn't give a fuck because I had the security of my class and income to move on easily, but I didn't go without giving the Chair a piece of my mind about how the staff were treated.

This is my favourite typo - "pasta certain level".

I remember a comedian years ago saying 'I suddenly realised I had four different shapes of pasta in my cupboard and I'd been to a barbeque at a friend's and was offered white or red, no beer. Oh god, I've become middle class!'

I always smile when I see someone talking on MN about how much they or their DH earn. It’s very rarely relevant to the conversation but no doubt it makes them feel important. The handful of wealthy people I do know, don’t feel the need to shout about it on a message board. 😂

Not really the point, but there seem to be at least 3 different value systems being discussed here:

• Money

• Social class

• Kindness and empathy (sometimes being referred to as "class," confusingly)

Plus a possible fourth: educational level.

These things are very much not the same as each other, although some of them interact or are often associated with each other.

My old (very wealthy) boss used to say: money talks, but wealth whispers.

Did you choose anger when you woke up?

How would you know? It’s not likely they’d tell you they’re on forums.

UMC is surely dullest, least inspiring class 😂 none of the creativity or cultural impact of the working class and none of the money and freedom of the UC 😂

the poster above said you can’t move class, I was simply pointing out thanks to the explosion in normal people buying homes and going to university, in the words of Tony Blair “everyone is middle class now” (or thinks they are)

Your boss was a snob and a bit simple by the sounds of it. I thought that was just something poor people said to sound like they had spent time around rich people.

i can’t say you see much whispering around Monaco or rich UAE or rich China

I also want to read the rug thread!

There’s so much bad grammar on this post that I’m twitching.

@Theweedygarden
Money and Class are two completely different things
Class often has money but not always
Money doesn’t buy Class but can help pay to educate
Some people with either money and / or class can be amazingly lovely people and some can be completely awful the same goes for people who have neither
Thing is to live your life without being jealous of others with what they do or don’t have , people can be rich in so many ways , it’s not always about how much money they do or don’t have , happiness is gained from so many different aspects of a persons life
Try and stop spending time being jealous of whatever someone else has and look at using that time to improve your own life

I’m sorry. We don’t all find it as easy as you do.

if it helps, I do many other things outstandingly well.

No one’s going from WC to UMC in a single generation. WC to LMC, certainly, but then I think LMC is much the dullest, least inspiring class — more likely to be desperate to keep up with the Joneses, to be apeing class shibboleths they don’t fully understand, clinging to their grey walls and Quooker taps. The Hyacinth Buckets.

Elegance is learned, my friends

Define ‘class’. Then we might be able to discuss the issue with more clarity.

It really doesn’t matter which end of middle class you are sneering at. It’s tacky either way.