Cisgender What When Why

[gandticenslice]

Watching BigBrother the other night and Cisgender was mentioned. Never Ever heard this before and had to google it. When did I become Cisgender! And Why? It’s actually pissed me off a wee bit.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5316503-cis

Considering its been a word since the mid 90s and you've never come across it before, I really wouldn't worry about a couple of folk on the telly using it. Just carry on with your life and correct anyone who calls you it in real life.

My DD17 told me this a year or so ago, I said no I’m a woman, I’m not a cis-woman! They did say it’s clarity in the trans community which is ok, but I told them not to use it in a
non-trans type conversation as people may take offence

It is a word used to try and impose a harmful ideology on others. It says that women identify with the very things that cause us harm and tries to reduce us to a subset of our sex. You are right to be pissed off.

It’s a nonsensical word used by people who think trans women are are subset of women and so feel the need to prefix actual women as well.

I have never heard anyone use it other than online so it’s easy to ignore or correct

Of course it pisses you off - it makes assumptions about you , how does anyone know your feelings about your identity match those attributed to your sex? Isn’t that actually extraordinarily rare? Isn’t the whole point of feminism to say actually there are far fewer assumptions you can make about me as a women than people usually do? That in fact I am more like any man than you are prepared to accept

it boosts the male ego and tramples the female into dust - again

I am not cisgender
I am not transgender because I think we should leave gender where it belongs.
but I am also not transgender because I do believe there are some people with serious issues for whom expressing as the opposite sex really is necessary- as opposed to something I can just “toughen up” to.

I would berate her for making assumptions about your gender identity (or lack of?). Theoretically by current nomenclature, if you don't have a gender identity then you are counted as trans by the youth as you would be agender. How bizarre is that?

It’s a way for trans identifying people (and their sycophantic allies) to place themselves front and centre of the universe, relegating the overwhelming majority of the population, to a mere sub category.

wow, where have you been? Not on the FWR boards clearly. Gender critical feminists have been saying 'cis is a slur'(which it is) for at least the last 5 years.

Cis is a load of bollocks. I was told recently by a group of now ex friends that I am somehow both cis and "intersex"
Fucking crap.

It really pisses me off too. I don’t subscribe to their quasi religious gender nonsense.

I’d never heard of it until mn, and when I’ve done a straw poll around working colleagues (various ages), no one had heard of it.

Apparently, there’s ‘cis women’ and ‘trans women’ who are all subsets of ‘women’. Funny how you rarely hear the term ‘cis men!’.

(and I don’t subscribe to this either. ).

You must have been living under a rock if you haven’t heard it.

If people want to use it to describe themselves, good on them. I find that a bit virtue signally, like declaring your pronouns, it’s more of a political statement.

But don’t force me to use it to describe me. On the one hand we’re told language is important and should be inclusive, but on the other we are told we need to accept other language to describe ourselves, even if we don’t like it.