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What does Katharine Birbalsingh do different?

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User2346 · 21/08/2025 20:14

I can’t say I like her but I am intrigued as to how she gets the results which are remarkable.

I know the model of zero tolerance etc but this is copied in a lot of academies without the resounding success.

Is there something different with the teaching methods? Is there an element of selection weeding out children with SEN and EHCP’s?

I would love the perspective of parents who have their DC at the school.

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Drfosters · 22/08/2025 00:35

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:34

I couldn't disagree more about the function of schools. They receive large sums of public money, and they should therefore be providing a proper, rounded education, not just drilling children to pass exams for the greater glory of the headteacher. Getting a good result at A level doesn't give you better choices and opportunities in life if you have not been allowed to develop an ability to think independently because you are so used to being spoonfed.

Well that’s one to take up with the department of education!

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:36

Sausagescanfly · 22/08/2025 00:24

The parents know the GCSEs available before their children start.

If the "predominantly first generation immigrant parents" are anything like my first generation immigrant mother, then the children may not get much of a say in their subject choices anyway. My DM only really approved of science and maths A levels. I doubt she'd have let me do gcse drama, dance, food tech, dt or business studies.

What if you hated science and maths and absolutely shone in IT or drama? Would your mother have been doing you any favours in refusing to let you do the subjects you chose? Or indeed in picking a school that would not give you that choice at all?

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:43

Drfosters · 22/08/2025 00:29

But Michaela can’t offer those subjects. Not physically possible- they are in a Tiny office block. They also don’t have the budget to offer all that very specialist teaching to small amounts of children. They aren’t doing it to spite anyone. They literally can’t pull a DT workshop out of thin air (the cost of the equipment is astronomical) or a a massive room full of sewing machines or install working kitchens. Micheala have said they have a narrow curriculum as that is what is practical for them given their space and budget constraints. There will be other schools locally which are bigger that can take on those students who want to do those subjects

But that's basically their choice. How do you imagine other academies and free schools manage to have more suitable and larger premises? At the time Michaela was set up, the DfE devoted hefty resources to helping schools find suitable premises and/or making whatever adaptations were necessary to enable them to fulfil the normal functions of schools. If Michaela had larger premises and took more children, they would have a larger budget, but it would be considerably more difficult to keep the rigid control that KB wants - so she chooses the easier option even though it cuts down choices drastically for her pupils.. Michaela should really have been marked down by Ofsted as a result, and the fact that it wasn't is yet more evidence of how unfit for purpose Ofsted has been. It's going to be interesting to see how they fare under a new regime with much more emphasis on equality.

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Sausagescanfly · 22/08/2025 00:47

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:36

What if you hated science and maths and absolutely shone in IT or drama? Would your mother have been doing you any favours in refusing to let you do the subjects you chose? Or indeed in picking a school that would not give you that choice at all?

To be fair, you do know your children by the time they are approaching secondary school, so you'd know if it wouldn't suit your child.

But I'd also say that my mother was terrified that we'd choose poor subjects and end up unemployed. So yeah, she'd have pushed us that way, no matter what we enjoyed. She's puzzled that her grandchildren are allowed to choose their own subjects.

Drfosters · 22/08/2025 00:56

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:43

But that's basically their choice. How do you imagine other academies and free schools manage to have more suitable and larger premises? At the time Michaela was set up, the DfE devoted hefty resources to helping schools find suitable premises and/or making whatever adaptations were necessary to enable them to fulfil the normal functions of schools. If Michaela had larger premises and took more children, they would have a larger budget, but it would be considerably more difficult to keep the rigid control that KB wants - so she chooses the easier option even though it cuts down choices drastically for her pupils.. Michaela should really have been marked down by Ofsted as a result, and the fact that it wasn't is yet more evidence of how unfit for purpose Ofsted has been. It's going to be interesting to see how they fare under a new regime with much more emphasis on equality.

so children all have to go to massive schools? What about those people who want their children to go to small schools? I had to pay private to send my child to school with a year group of 100. Why can’t you accept some parents have a preference for schools with a narrow curriculum that will get them high grades? Are you suggesting that all schools should be the same size and offer all GCSE subjects? There is no country in the western world that does something like that.

iseethembloom · 22/08/2025 04:36

Lots of first and second-generation immigrant families who, unlike the white-working class, are honoured and delighted to be getting an English education, who are aspirational and who want to do well.

Her school is full of kids who have a work ethic and strong discipline in the background (at home).

This, mainly. As others have said, the narrow curriculum also helps…. as does the very small size of the school (something like 700 on roll).

She’s a charlatan. If she tried the same methods in a big, white, coastal town, she’d get nowhere.

iseethembloom · 22/08/2025 04:38

Selection through the back door, also.

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 05:43

Ratafia · 21/08/2025 23:47

Number of exclusions doesn't tell you much. Official statistics will never show you the children who are effectively managed out by making their lives hell, failing to meet SEN, punishing them for the effects of disabilities etc.

The same can be said for every school.

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 05:51

Daboomboom · 21/08/2025 23:05

Ok autonomy was the wrong word. Apologies.

I meant more about initiative and thinking for themselves. For instance, if it's dark thinking "how can I fix this?" instead of relying on someone else to tell you.

If the pupils are turned into (academically brilliant) robots, then they wont have the common sense or experience they need outside of school.

People on here talk about teaching kids to cook a few easy meals for when they go to uni. Same thing.

Sadly, for most of us, teachers see our children much more than we do. So we cant just separate school and parents tasks. There has to be overlap. Parents help with school work, school helps with life skills.

ETA- someone mentioned "enrichment". I guess that's what Im trying to say!

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Where’s the parent’s role on all of this? That’s the crux of the matter - uncontrollable children with ineffective parents who don’t know how to say ‘no’.
I taught my DC how to do all domestic stuff - cook, clean, sew, meal plan, household finance. I certainly didn’t expect school to do all that.

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 05:52

housebrick · 21/08/2025 23:20

There are ways of selecting without selecting.

Church attendance, particularly for a long time and/or volunteering being one.

Overly complicated admissions procedures and forms.

Locking doors/removing signs fron SEN rooms on open evenings. Head suggesting to parents that their children might be happier at another, neighbouring school.

Setting up ‘friends of xxxxx’ table at open evenings and inviting parents to set up direct debits.

None of which apply to this school though.

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 05:53

Ratafia · 21/08/2025 23:50

Not true. Local authorities don't control intake on academies.

Yes they do - the LA is the admissions authority.

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 05:58

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:14

Anyone who thinks this is what routinely happens in schools is deluded.

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Anyone who thinks this doesn’t happen in schools is deluded! This site is full of posts by parents whose children have been assaulted, bullied, picked on and isolated by their peers on school. Children are taking weapons into school, teachers are firefighting constantly. The system whereby children have been given autonomy over their education is absolutely broken.

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 06:00

Zipzaps · 22/08/2025 00:28

I work in Education, sot on boads with headteachers and Dorectoes of Education. She and her methods are not well respected. As well as actual exclusion there's a lot of exclusion by way of persuading "unsuitable" families the school is not for them.

Which may well make it an excellent school for those who remain.

That’s not my experience. Many of my colleagues are inspired by the ethos of hard work and inclusion she has promoted. Because we all want children to succeed. Headteachers need to stop trying to be best friends with their pupils.

metellaestinatrio · 22/08/2025 06:15

housebrick · 21/08/2025 23:20

There are ways of selecting without selecting.

Church attendance, particularly for a long time and/or volunteering being one.

Overly complicated admissions procedures and forms.

Locking doors/removing signs fron SEN rooms on open evenings. Head suggesting to parents that their children might be happier at another, neighbouring school.

Setting up ‘friends of xxxxx’ table at open evenings and inviting parents to set up direct debits.

Is there any evidence Michaela is doing any of the above?

MrsEmmelineLucas · 22/08/2025 06:26

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:30

Sure, but this was in relation to a question about the methods used at Michaela and why they don't prepare you. I went into the Tudors and Stuarts in depth for A levels, but I had had the benefit through my secondary school life of covering at least UK history from the middle ages up to the 1950s. If all you have ever learnt in history is what the examiners expect you to churn out about the Tudors and Stuarts, that will be of no use to you whatsoever in relation to learning any other history, let alone in learning valuable lessons from history.

It will be of use to you, because if you do GCSE History you will have to learn how to construct a balanced argument supported by evidence, and analyse source materials. Michaela cannot change the syllabus and just expect that information is regurgitatted. It has to be applied.

MrsEmmelineLucas · 22/08/2025 06:27

Soontobe60 · 22/08/2025 05:58

Anyone who thinks this doesn’t happen in schools is deluded! This site is full of posts by parents whose children have been assaulted, bullied, picked on and isolated by their peers on school. Children are taking weapons into school, teachers are firefighting constantly. The system whereby children have been given autonomy over their education is absolutely broken.

Good points. 👍

MsJinks · 22/08/2025 06:37

I was sent to one of our county’s better performing Catholic schools, to see how behaviour was managed.
The answer was essentially via parents very keen to keep their child there - according to the head if they made any discipline also difficult to the parents then they’d help ensure their child behaved eg/detention after school Friday. Also, any complaints about any discipline were listened to, not changed (eg/ mobiles taken for a week) and the parents advised they could remove their child of course if they didn’t like it. The school was well over subscribed so no one wanted to do this.
From good behaviour comes good teaching and teachers - I hadn’t seen anywhere near such engagement in lessons at other schools, and the children with TA support didn’t need them sitting nearly on top of them (as other schools).
Re intake you’d assume is faith but the priority was SEN, though not sure everyone knew this, but they had a fair proportion with ECHPs.
As everyone says above, this type of school is certainly not for everyone, but despite reservations about faith schools, faith wasn’t overt and the day there was a breath of fresh air after being in other secondary schools without the advantage of parents really, really wanting their kids there, and being pretty overwhelmed even nearly (or fully) scared. And in itself the busy and loud atmosphere is not conducive to learning.
There’s many factors but a very focussed head is a good start, good behaviour expected and from there flows the teachers/teaching, better learning experiences and outcomes.

Lemonsole · 22/08/2025 06:41

When she’s interviewed, and when you see her interacting with the kids, it’s clear that the whole ethos comes from a place of genuine love and compassion for them. There is always calm, even when sanctions are being applied. When the zero-tolerance model is transferred to other settings without this foundation it’s unpleasant and ineffectual - and in the hands of an SLT who don’t seem to like young people very much - verging on the sinister

metellaestinatrio · 22/08/2025 07:23

Ratafia · 22/08/2025 00:14

Anyone who thinks this is what routinely happens in schools is deluded.

Edited

Perhaps not to this extreme (although I suspect that poster is speaking from personal experience) but it is true that poorly behaved children routinely get away with assaulting other children and teachers and, because it is virtually impossible for (primary at least) schools to expel the trouble makers, their victims have to see them in the classroom day in, day out, and are expected to develop strategies to avoid “triggering” them. Adults in the workplace (teachers aside of course) would never be expected to put up with this. Assault by an adult at work is gross misconduct allowing the employer to dismiss without notice.

Disasterclass · 22/08/2025 07:51

Lemonsole · 22/08/2025 06:41

When she’s interviewed, and when you see her interacting with the kids, it’s clear that the whole ethos comes from a place of genuine love and compassion for them. There is always calm, even when sanctions are being applied. When the zero-tolerance model is transferred to other settings without this foundation it’s unpleasant and ineffectual - and in the hands of an SLT who don’t seem to like young people very much - verging on the sinister

I know a family who had a child at the school and KBs compassion for children doesn’t extend to any kind of pastoral care for them. This was a clever, hard working kid, whose family were going through a difficult time (through no fault of their own). The school did not want to know, essentially gave her no support and implied they wouldn’t be happy if her performance at school was affected.

converseandjeans · 22/08/2025 08:03

Sausagescanfly · 22/08/2025 00:24

The parents know the GCSEs available before their children start.

If the "predominantly first generation immigrant parents" are anything like my first generation immigrant mother, then the children may not get much of a say in their subject choices anyway. My DM only really approved of science and maths A levels. I doubt she'd have let me do gcse drama, dance, food tech, dt or business studies.

@Sausagescanfly why the obsession with STEM? Why is there no value in doing creative subjects?

Covidwoes · 22/08/2025 08:07

@MrsEmmelineLucasyou are right. Disruptive behaviour is so wearing. I teach primary, but it is a problem there too. When I try and tackle it via parents, some of them really don’t care. These are the parents, however, that do not support their child in any way with their education.

MrsSkylerWhite · 22/08/2025 08:11

PamIsAVolleyballChamp · 21/08/2025 20:51

This. Why is it being seen as a bad thing that a school has a 'no tolerance of violence and shitty behaviour, pupils are getting good results'?

Hear, hear. Structure and high expectations in school are no bad things. Especially when far too many kids have the exact opposites at home.

ElinoristhenewEnid · 22/08/2025 08:19

Just looking at their stats on the gov.uk website

70.4% of pupils English is an additional language
31.9% of pupils have received fsm during past 6 years
10.1% of pupils on sen support
1.9% of pupils have ehcp

all of the above can be used to excuse poor performance although not necessarily valid so I believe the school results are incredible and admire her work.

beelegal · 22/08/2025 08:24

There is no selection going on there as much as people like to think.
The school is very hot on discipline, they have silent corridors, it’s militarian almost.
No mobile phone policy which is actually enforced.
Every morning in tutor group children are expected to read. Doing this from Year 7 installs good habits and they become avid readers by the end of their first year.
Teaching is old school, it is teacher led, no group work.
Good food at lunch, no fizzy drinks or junk.

Due to the very good behaviour staff turnover is extremely low.

KB knows what she is doing.

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