Amanda Knox

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I see there is another Amanda Knox series out on Hulu/Disney. I've always followed the case closely. But I have mixed feelings. At first I thought Amanda was involved in the murder but as time has gone on, there isn't a shred of proof (from a DNA pov) against her. But should she continue to make money from the case? I feel deeply sorry for Meredith's family. As her sister Stephanie said, Meredith is the 'forgotten victim' in this. I understand she did spend 4 years behind bars and wants to be vindicated - and she does help other innocent victims who have been jailed - but I feel it's too much now and that Meredith is being lost in it all. What do you think?

Yes he climbed in up a drain pipe, or at least that's the assumption.

So there wasn't much to suggest something amiss initially.

It wasn't until I watched and read about the case later that I appreciated just how flimsy the DNA evidence was.

You hear on a knife and on a bra strap and that feels like a lot of red flags.

But the knife was such a small sample they think probably lab contamination and they couldn't repeat it and get the same result.

And the bra strap clasp was laying on the floor of her bedroom for months afterwards and then the forensic investigators were captured on film passing it between themselves.

Fundamentally for me I just do not see how it is possible to semi clean a crime scene removing every trace of two people's DNA but leaving the third in abundance. No one could spot clean everywhere they touched or stood without removing any of the other blood/DNA.

That was never satisfactory explained.

They mean the bathroom where apparently there was loads of blood. Except there wasn’t at all

Meredith could’ve grabbed the towel to stem the bleeding? I haven’t read the court transcripts

Its not just the ‘not sitting right’. Its the things like the bra clasp which DID have Raffaelles DNA on it.

Its not just the ‘not sitting right’. Its the things like the bra clasp which DID have Raffaelles DNA on it.

The police made a complete bollock of the crime scene though.

The issue with the dna on the bra clasp though is that the Italian police failed to follow the required standards in both the initial handling and the storage of evidence.

Leaving the clasp lying on the floor well after the initial crime scene investigation, passing it amongst each other, the materials used to store it etc means that it cannot be considered reliable evidence and was just as likely the result of contamination, especially as the suspects dna could expect to be found elsewhere in the house and would have already been on multitouch surfaces like door handles.

That's why it was reviewed, found not to meet international standards or dna evidence and disregarded during the subsequent legal reviews.

Going back to your point about being seen buying cleaning supplies - at that point they had reported the crime to the police and the police had begun their investigation. What doesn't sit right with you there? What do you think the cleaning supplies represent at that stage?

Whether people find her likeable or not is irrelevant. She was completely innocent yet lost precious youth in jail. She still has hate thrown at her. When life gives you lemons….

that Meredith’s family are suffering the loss of their precious daughter doesn’t invalidate the trauma and unfairness of what Amanda went through and if Amanda can turn it into a positive for her then she should.

The bra that was kicking around the flat way after the event where everyone’s dna was? That bra? Do you not understand how dna contamination works? Why do you think evidence is bagged up immediately.

The something that doesn’t sit right is based off what you were told via the media. It’s not information you obtained through anything else. You formed opinions based on what you heard and saw on TV and online.

things that ultimately turned out to be wrong. So now instead of revising your feeling, you hold onto them in the face of new information. Can’t you see this is why Trump supporters continue to support Trump after event after event shows him to be corrupt, ignorant and self serving.

it is vital that people have the ability to revise their initial opinions when presented with new information. Don’t be one if the ones that rigidly stick to their view even after the knowledge has changed

The bra clasp that was left in the room for months and had cross contamination?

Why do you think it’s the only place in the room with RS’s DNA?

47 days to be precise and in that time in was photographed in several different places.

They filmed bagging it up and the forensic officers passed it from one to the other before hand.

Wasn’t the bra clasp found “suddenly” after the room had already been forensically checked multiple times.

It is was pretty clear to me that it was planted.

I find it extremely worrying how not only many in the public, but also legal systems across the world, seem to think it’s ok to decide someone is guilty of murder and lock them away for decades/life on the basis of spurious circumstantial evidence, and/or the fact they didn’t behave correctly in a traumatic and unusual situation. So many victims of wrongful conviction, many of them women.

Apparently just being ‘odd’ and ‘unlikeable’ is enough to mean that you’re at suspicion of having committed a barbaric murder. Only if you’re female though.

Interesting, are you a forensic expert? Can you tell us in layman’s terms how you think she avoided leaving any trace of DNA in a chaotic scene? As a teenager too.

No. A lot of men have been jailed for crimes they didn't do aswell.

I remembee Amanda Knox saying that only after it happened to her, that she realised how many other people had been wrongfully jailed

Of course they have. I haven’t seen many men, having been acquitted of a crime and compensated for their wrongful imprisonment, quite so analysed in the press/on social media and having comments such as ‘there was definitely something fishy going on, he was odd and unlikeable’ directed at them though.
Even on this thread alone, people have expressed the belief that Amanda Knox was involved in Meredith’s murder, despite there being absolutely no evidence that this was the case. All because they believe her to be ‘odd’.

(Or, indeed, have people lie on social media about having seen pictures of crime scenes covered in blood, that don’t actually exist)

There are odd and unlikeable men who have been wrongfully convicted because of that. The way in which Amanda Knox was wrongfully convicted and the way in which her personality and behaviour were used to damn her was quite specifically female.

Also, I wonder whether the vivid intellects who reckon Knox is guilty or in some other way dodgy also think the same of Rafael Sollecito?

Not necessarily..many men have been convicted for oddities too. I don't know statistics but I suspect overall miscarriages of justice are more likely to involve men given that convictions against men are so much more common.

I also suspect many women have gotten away with murder too by acting as society expects a woman to act when someone they know dies

The was also the Catholic belief that a loose woman was incapable of truth. They were flawed and manipulative and often evil liars. I don't think she would have been targeted the same way in another culture.

I believe the towel that was drenched in blood was found under her body.
There was another towel on the bed but there wasn't very much blood on that.

Perhaps because most of us don’t relate to every single situation in the world that other people experience at the age of 20.

Did you see my earlier picture of the bathroom?

Just started watching the series even though I didn’t plan to as I know pretty much everything about the case.

Switched off after 10 minutes - couldn’t get on with the weird Amelie style way it was shot!

where are you watching it? It’s not on my Disney + yet.