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Amanda Knox

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YourBrickTiger · 21/08/2025 09:08

I see there is another Amanda Knox series out on Hulu/Disney. I've always followed the case closely. But I have mixed feelings. At first I thought Amanda was involved in the murder but as time has gone on, there isn't a shred of proof (from a DNA pov) against her. But should she continue to make money from the case? I feel deeply sorry for Meredith's family. As her sister Stephanie said, Meredith is the 'forgotten victim' in this. I understand she did spend 4 years behind bars and wants to be vindicated - and she does help other innocent victims who have been jailed - but I feel it's too much now and that Meredith is being lost in it all. What do you think?

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ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:09

Applebun · 22/08/2025 00:02

No he never wrote in the book that he thought Knox did it.

He did write that he didnt like that all the attention was on Amanda, and that Meredith was kind of forgotten.

I agree with him there.

It’s unimaginable.

AK is hardly to blame though. The media and police behaved abominably.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:09

kkloo · 22/08/2025 00:04

There was a jury but there was 2 judges in it as well, I think it was 2 judges and 6 jurors.

Yes that’s the usual Italian process.

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:11

Livelovebehappy · 22/08/2025 00:05

I don’t think there was plenty of evidence to suggest she was innocent. Much of the evidence at the scene was contaminated by poor handling of the crime scene by the police. The red flags were there, and police just pieced it together with what they had. It’s the same situation with Lucy Letby. All circumstantial, but nothing concrete, but enough for police to think she was guilty.

But cross contamination would put DNA in different places - not eliminate it entirely. There were none of AK or RS’s DNA in Meredith’s room compared to her actual killer, where it was everywhere. That alone makes is laughable to suggest that either of them were involved.

Applebun · 22/08/2025 00:11

Meredith's dad's book about it is really well written. He said that since Meredith was very small she had always loved Italy, and always wanted to go there to study.

He said that he was a journalist himself and he heard that there was an English student murdered in Italy.

He felt scared and then he thought "but there are hundreds of english students in italy".

Then he said someone rang him and said "the name going around is Meredith. But that might just be a contact in the dead person's phone"
Then someone rang him again and said the dead girls name is definitely meredith kercher

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:13

Applebun · 22/08/2025 00:11

Meredith's dad's book about it is really well written. He said that since Meredith was very small she had always loved Italy, and always wanted to go there to study.

He said that he was a journalist himself and he heard that there was an English student murdered in Italy.

He felt scared and then he thought "but there are hundreds of english students in italy".

Then he said someone rang him and said "the name going around is Meredith. But that might just be a contact in the dead person's phone"
Then someone rang him again and said the dead girls name is definitely meredith kercher

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Horrific.

Im a total fanny and I don’t think I could stomach a book about the grief of losing a child.

They must be furious at the way they were treated.

I’m sure I’ve read both Meredith’s mum and dad have now died too.

kkloo · 22/08/2025 00:15

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:09

Yes that’s the usual Italian process.

Yeah.
Luckily for Amanda she was guaranteed appeals, because if it had been the case of having to fight for a chance of one I don't know if they would have allowed it seeing as they seemed so determined to pin it on her.

Applebun · 22/08/2025 00:16

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:13

Horrific.

Im a total fanny and I don’t think I could stomach a book about the grief of losing a child.

They must be furious at the way they were treated.

I’m sure I’ve read both Meredith’s mum and dad have now died too.

Yeah it was very sad. They were very close.

Such a waste of a life of a young woman

Ketzele · 22/08/2025 00:18

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 21/08/2025 23:03

Just to clarify, Meredith was alone on the house when she was murdered. AK was at her boyfriend’s house.

Good points on everything else!

Thanks for the clarification, I had misremembered that.

swimsong · 22/08/2025 01:30

Livelovebehappy · 21/08/2025 23:53

The initial behaviour wouldn’t determine guilt, but it would be enough to make the police suspicious. Afterall, they’re trained to be aware of behaviour that would raise red flags. She acted very cold and detached in the immediate aftermath.

It would take professional level acting skills for someone who has just stabbed someone to death to be so blasé and unperturbed about imminent arrest, jail and eventual conviction. The guilty tend to marshal themselves and put a lot of effort into looking shocked and protesting their innocence.

Imperativvv · 22/08/2025 07:23

Applebun · 21/08/2025 23:43

"Im sure we will see them soon".
Why do posters keep saying this over and over to me.

As I already said, I never ever provide photos or links on mumsnet, when I am demanded to do so. Ever. I never have and never will.

So move on.

They're saying it to you so that you know they know the photos don't exist. Nobody actually thought you were going to provide a source for something you made up, don't worry!

Applebun · 22/08/2025 08:06

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 00:13

Horrific.

Im a total fanny and I don’t think I could stomach a book about the grief of losing a child.

They must be furious at the way they were treated.

I’m sure I’ve read both Meredith’s mum and dad have now died too.

It's a very sad book. Her dad is a journalist so he is a rely good writer too. It was very well written

CaveMum · 22/08/2025 09:48

@Applebun this is the podcast interview with Amanda I linked to yesterday. There are others out there.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/crime-analyst/id1545830333?i=1000532561812

As I also said, it’s worth listening to the Real Crime Profile podcast short series on Meredith’s murder which goes through the whole case and how badly it was conducted.

Correcting the Narrative with Amanda Knox

Correcting the Narrative with Amanda Knox

Podcast Episode · Crime Analyst · EP35 · 1h 6m

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/correcting-the-narrative-with-amanda-knox/id1545830333?i=1000532561812

SomeOfTheTrouble · 22/08/2025 09:59

Imperativvv · 22/08/2025 07:23

They're saying it to you so that you know they know the photos don't exist. Nobody actually thought you were going to provide a source for something you made up, don't worry!

I’m waiting for my apology from that poster for being called ‘too lazy’ to find something that doesn’t exist!

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 10:08

@Applebun did you mean this picture?

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LeticiaMorales · 22/08/2025 10:11

Very interesting.
What about the bloody footprints? I know one was Rudy Geude's. The other one was allegedly a "smaller, female sneaker" - was this also unproven?

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 10:12

LeticiaMorales · 22/08/2025 10:11

Very interesting.
What about the bloody footprints? I know one was Rudy Geude's. The other one was allegedly a "smaller, female sneaker" - was this also unproven?

There was a bloody footprint on the bath mat it belonged to Rudy. Lots in Meredith’s room IIRC

LeticiaMorales · 22/08/2025 10:22

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 10:12

There was a bloody footprint on the bath mat it belonged to Rudy. Lots in Meredith’s room IIRC

Yes, it was the one in Meredith's room. I assume the implication was that it was Amanda's, but clearly that's not the case.

Applebun · 22/08/2025 13:33

I remember that Rudy Guede's initial defense was that he was in the house in the bathroom. An intruder came in, and he heard meredith screaming. He said that he tried to stop the blood from her neck with a towel.

Interestingly there was a towel that was drenched with blood in the bedroom.

I think he did it, but why did he cut her throat, then appear to try to stop the bleeding with a towel

YourBrickTiger · 22/08/2025 13:46

Thanks for all the great responses. Even after all these years there is something about it doesn’t sit right with me. But if her DNA wasn’t there, then that is it really. But her weird behaviour and how her and Raffaelle were seen buying bleach the day after and cleaning products.

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SpaceRaccoon · 22/08/2025 13:49

Even after all these years there is something about it doesn’t sit right with me

Honestly the "something that doesn't sit right" is what was planted by the police and prosecution at the time, aided by the global media. That's it. No actual evidence and she's been exonerated.
Lucky for her it wasn't the middle ages, she'd have been burned.

Nyungnyung · 22/08/2025 13:54

YourBrickTiger · 22/08/2025 13:46

Thanks for all the great responses. Even after all these years there is something about it doesn’t sit right with me. But if her DNA wasn’t there, then that is it really. But her weird behaviour and how her and Raffaelle were seen buying bleach the day after and cleaning products.

Most of the stuff that doesn’t ’sit right’, is the made-up nonsense presented by the police and sensationalised by the media

FiveBarGate · 22/08/2025 13:56

Applebun · 21/08/2025 23:04

You showed one photo.

Do police only take one photo of a crime scene? No they don't.

There was more blood in the room than that.

But they didn't go into Meredith's room immediately so she wouldn't have known this at the point she took a shower.

YourBrickTiger · 22/08/2025 13:57

FiveBarGate · 22/08/2025 13:56

But they didn't go into Meredith's room immediately so she wouldn't have known this at the point she took a shower.

Meredith’s door had to be broken down. So I think the killer went out the window as it was locked from the inside.

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ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 14:08

YourBrickTiger · 22/08/2025 13:46

Thanks for all the great responses. Even after all these years there is something about it doesn’t sit right with me. But if her DNA wasn’t there, then that is it really. But her weird behaviour and how her and Raffaelle were seen buying bleach the day after and cleaning products.

The day after, when the police had already raided the house and scene where Meredith died??

I imagine they were buying shopping because Rafaelle had a house they were both now living in. Unless you think they tried to inflate and already searched crime scene to clean up?

ImGoingUpstairsToTakeOffMyHat · 22/08/2025 14:09

SpaceRaccoon · 22/08/2025 13:49

Even after all these years there is something about it doesn’t sit right with me

Honestly the "something that doesn't sit right" is what was planted by the police and prosecution at the time, aided by the global media. That's it. No actual evidence and she's been exonerated.
Lucky for her it wasn't the middle ages, she'd have been burned.

It’s such a dangerous thing to say. It writes off real evidence and goes with the concept of “I don’t like you so you must be guilty”

And as you say a tactic that drove witch hunts - old and recent

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