Maybe karma does exist...dodgy house seller never got to enjoy his money.

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Let me preface this by saying that I am gloating about this. I am just trying to process how I feel about it.

Today I learned that the man who I bought my 'house of horrors' from as a naive first time buyer from has recently died pretty much around the same dates that we were completing/exchanging last year.

He really was awful to deal with when throughout the process, a compulsive liar who left rubbish/furniture everywhere in the house, loft and shed when I moved in (which he refused to clear or pay to have picked up) and who failed to declare issues (boiler had broken down after exchange for, leaky toilet that ended up damaging the ceilings below and many more) that ended up costing me money and stress and led me to literally have a breakdown and caused me so much heartache. My next door neighbour did not like him either as he was always snooping and making her uncomfortable with his comments when she was in her garden.

He was not even that old and in the end never got to enjoy his new house much or the money he got from me.

I know it is not ''charitable' but I can't help but think that karma might be a thing after all...

I think someone else said it, but it's quite likely he was already very ill when he was selling and not able to cope with all the problems and clutter, not so much Karma more likely an expected death in the near future. A bit of sympathy might be in order.

Oh shhh to all the how awful of you OP posts. Awful man dies. The pain and distress HE caused and you’re all, oh how sad. Ridiculous!

I’d feel the same as you op.

Yes I do think he deserved ultimate death, but I'm not the OP. Please feel very holier than thou,.as much as you wish.Please.berate me.

But everyone dies! We will all experience ultimate death. It's not something that might or might not happen to us. It's really weird to view it as punishment when it's pretty much the only thing that happens everyone.

Wow.

You are gloating because someone is dead. You feel that his difficult behaviour over a house sale deserves death and is karma.

Wow.

Pp made an excellent point that by your logic / beliefs, you must have done something to deserve what he did to you.

If thats how it works- bad things happen as punishment and good things happen as reward. "What goes around comes around" as you put it.

Do you think his actions were your 'karma', or do you think it was just random with no meaning to it when you were on the receiving end, but a meaningful and deliberate punishment when it came to him?

'Karma' (I know its not what it really means, but it is how its used) seems to have a big flaw / blindspot here.

But in reality there's no universal fforce stepping in to balance things out. No mystical energy punishing people. Its just all random shit. Sadly. It would be great if there was. But there's not.

Schadenfreude

No I can never say I’ve never wished death or been glad someone has died because they have shafted me! Grief isn’t compulsory of course it isn’t especially for someone we don’t actually know however death is final and I wouldn’t wish or think someone deserved it in these circumstances

Ill take that. Good shout.

How do we know he was an awful man?

He left some stuff in the house and hid a broken boiler. 🙄

The couple we bought from were a nightmare and we ended up severely out of pocket and inconvenienced. I might wish for a bird to shit on them, possibly even daily, but I couldn’t imagine revelling in their premature deaths.

That's absolutely horrible OP. Someone's died ffs. I doubt your house purchase is even vaguely relevant

How about you read the first post.

Wow, that's a strange way to behave for someone who believes in karma.

How was he supposed to know the boiler was going to break after you exchanged contracts?

Rude.
He may well have been an awful man, but just because he left rubbish /junk when he moved out (we don't know what he died of and could have been suffering for months/years) and neighbour felt uncomfortable when he spoke to her is not enough for me to pass judgement and write him off. "Hello, Love" " Where are you off to today?" "You're looking nice this morning" "such a lovely daughter you have" could all make someone feel uncomfortable but equally innocent comments.
OP you have more info than us of course. I'm sorry you had a rough time and hope you can look forward now to a nice future in your new home.

He had a preminition.

Really?I didn't know that that everyone eventually dies.
I don't think he died because he was mean to this woman, I just wouldn't be sad.

You should have done a pre-closing check to ensure the house was cleared out and cleaned. You need to accept responsibility for that.

You believe what goes around, comes around? If that was the case then surely he would have ended up having house or neighbour related issues, not death as the ‘karma’? 😳. You might have a point if his new house roof blew off, but considering his death as some sort of karma is really weird. And then having to ‘process’ it.

Maybe the way you were treated and the breakdown is affecting the way you think and that’s what you need to process. It might be a good idea to seek therapy for what you’ve been through and then you can move forward.