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Maybe karma does exist...dodgy house seller never got to enjoy his money.

72 replies

summerskyblue · 13/08/2025 20:39

Let me preface this by saying that I am gloating about this. I am just trying to process how I feel about it.

Today I learned that the man who I bought my 'house of horrors' from as a naive first time buyer from has recently died pretty much around the same dates that we were completing/exchanging last year.

He really was awful to deal with when throughout the process, a compulsive liar who left rubbish/furniture everywhere in the house, loft and shed when I moved in (which he refused to clear or pay to have picked up) and who failed to declare issues (boiler had broken down after exchange for, leaky toilet that ended up damaging the ceilings below and many more) that ended up costing me money and stress and led me to literally have a breakdown and caused me so much heartache. My next door neighbour did not like him either as he was always snooping and making her uncomfortable with his comments when she was in her garden.

He was not even that old and in the end never got to enjoy his new house much or the money he got from me.

I know it is not ''charitable' but I can't help but think that karma might be a thing after all...

OP posts:
R0ckandHardPlace · 14/08/2025 06:47

Fucking hell. You’re basically saying he deserved to die because he left rubbish in the house and the boiler and toilet were broken.

Tourmalines · 14/08/2025 06:50

No such thing as karma . And if there was , was he that bad of a prick to die over this . Surely murderer ‘s and rapist should come before him but they still walk the streets .

EarringsandLipstick · 14/08/2025 06:55

What an awful post.

He certainly sounds like an awful seller. However at least some of those issues could have been identified by a survey or before closing, so you weren’t forced to complete the sale.

Linking it in any way go his death is abhorrent. And while I know a ‘not’ was missing before ‘gloating’, the rest of your post sounds exactly like you are gloating.

Radiowaawaa · 14/08/2025 06:56

I feel for you if you think like this.

Coconutter24 · 14/08/2025 07:05

Dinosaurshoebox · 13/08/2025 22:25

That the beauty of humanity and us being sentient beings

We can all have our own individual thoughts
Hes dead so he doesn't care.

I personally think its fine.

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Yeh I just wouldn’t come on here gloating that a man died just because of a few issues with a house. Like you said we all have our own individual thoughts but they show us sometimes who is a decent human and who is not

WutheringTights · 14/08/2025 07:09

OP, hope you’re ignoring most of the posts on this thread. MN can sometimes be full of self righteous perfect people who know everything and never put a foot wrong but are completely lacking in empathy.

felixlegion · 14/08/2025 07:13

I’m a great believer in karma.

SparklyGlitterballs · 14/08/2025 07:19

Did you not have a full survey done on the property before purchasing it OP? If you skipped that and had a basic homeowners report then more fool you. A decent survey would have picked up any major issues. If the homeowner deliberately lied on the TA6 then you would have had grounds to seek compensation. I'm all for a bit of 'karma', but gloating about someone's death, especially if they're still reasonably young, is a bit much.

Meadowfinch · 14/08/2025 07:30

You're gloating because a man has died !! That is truly horrible and small minded. His loved ones are grieving and that's all you can manage? Wow !!

And a little insight. I've bought four houses now and every one of them has had undisclosed issues. Two of my siblings have bought brand new 4 bed houses, and both had issues. One had to move back out and the other needed their kitchen replacing the week before she had a baby.

Issues are normal, so don't expect anything different in future.

shortoedtreecreeper · 14/08/2025 07:45

R0ckandHardPlace · 14/08/2025 06:47

Fucking hell. You’re basically saying he deserved to die because he left rubbish in the house and the boiler and toilet were broken.

She does not say he deserved to die.Where does she say that?

shortoedtreecreeper · 14/08/2025 07:48

Meadowfinch · 14/08/2025 07:30

You're gloating because a man has died !! That is truly horrible and small minded. His loved ones are grieving and that's all you can manage? Wow !!

And a little insight. I've bought four houses now and every one of them has had undisclosed issues. Two of my siblings have bought brand new 4 bed houses, and both had issues. One had to move back out and the other needed their kitchen replacing the week before she had a baby.

Issues are normal, so don't expect anything different in future.

Perhaps his loved ones are happy he's not leaving his rubbish about for others to pick up anymore.How do you know he has loved ones?
Maybe yhe posters response is vompletely reasonable after being srewed over.
Are you sending lovong thoughts to people who have screwed you over?

R0ckandHardPlace · 14/08/2025 07:49

shortoedtreecreeper · 14/08/2025 07:45

She does not say he deserved to die.Where does she say that?

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Erm. The use of the word ‘karma’. Meaning what goes around, comes around.

So the inference is that he died as a punishment for perceived wrongdoings.

Coconutter24 · 14/08/2025 07:50

WutheringTights · 14/08/2025 07:09

OP, hope you’re ignoring most of the posts on this thread. MN can sometimes be full of self righteous perfect people who know everything and never put a foot wrong but are completely lacking in empathy.

Do you not think OP is lacking empathy for a man who has died? That is so contradictory telling OP others are lacking empathy when it’s the one thing she doesn’t appear to have

Confuuzed · 14/08/2025 07:54

I bought my house from a similar character and i wouldn't give a shit if id heard he died. He was vile.

I wouldn't start a mumsnet thread about it though.

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summerskyblue · 14/08/2025 07:56

I missed the ''not'' before gloating but people can think whatever they want about me.

Yes I did have a full survey and yes the owner want out of his way to prevent the surveyor from seeing some of the issues like hiding damp with furnitures (as surveyors are not allowed to move things around).

I believe that what comes around goes around.

OP posts:
R0ckandHardPlace · 14/08/2025 08:06

I believe that what comes around goes around.

So do you believe that his death is a fitting punishment for the state he left your house in?

Greensnow · 14/08/2025 08:28

OP take no notice of the perfectionist victim blaming dogooders, on your thread.
You can feel as you like , your feelings can't be policed.

WutheringTights · 14/08/2025 09:44

Coconutter24 · 14/08/2025 07:50

Do you not think OP is lacking empathy for a man who has died? That is so contradictory telling OP others are lacking empathy when it’s the one thing she doesn’t appear to have

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Have you never wished ill on someone who has shafted you? Grief when someone dies isn’t compulsory, particularly if they were a horrible person. OP didn’t kill him and isn’t proposing to dance a jig on his grave in front of his grieving loved ones. She can feel what she feels, she’s allowed.

SoftandQuiet · 14/08/2025 11:12

Sad not to have any empathy about this person's life (the man). Maybe he was already dying when he put the house up for sale? Couldn't work or look after his property due to illness and was forced to sell? Lonely?

Helpmefindmysoul · 14/08/2025 11:25

summerskyblue · 13/08/2025 20:39

Let me preface this by saying that I am gloating about this. I am just trying to process how I feel about it.

Today I learned that the man who I bought my 'house of horrors' from as a naive first time buyer from has recently died pretty much around the same dates that we were completing/exchanging last year.

He really was awful to deal with when throughout the process, a compulsive liar who left rubbish/furniture everywhere in the house, loft and shed when I moved in (which he refused to clear or pay to have picked up) and who failed to declare issues (boiler had broken down after exchange for, leaky toilet that ended up damaging the ceilings below and many more) that ended up costing me money and stress and led me to literally have a breakdown and caused me so much heartache. My next door neighbour did not like him either as he was always snooping and making her uncomfortable with his comments when she was in her garden.

He was not even that old and in the end never got to enjoy his new house much or the money he got from me.

I know it is not ''charitable' but I can't help but think that karma might be a thing after all...

@summerskyblue
Speaking strictly from a conveyancing perspective your solicitor has enabled some of actions you have described. First time buyers need some extra guidance on the purchasing process and it sounds as though between the agent and your solicitor they didn’t do a very good job.
Unfortunately for you it’s buyer beware so the boiler and toilet leaking are not specifically the vendors fault. The agent should have also made sure that the vendor was not at the property when the survey was completed. You could also have done the full survey which would have given you more information about the things that required attending to so that you could have obtained a quotation for repairs at the property and then decided if you were in a position to proceed. If you were unsatisfied to the replies to enquiries your solicitor received you could have requested additional queries until the point of exchange. Such as requesting the boiler service report or even requesting for one to be completed prior to exchange of contracts. The lender would also have checked whether the state of the property was reflective of the amount you were borrowing.

Regarding the rubbish it clearly states on the contract that the property is to be vacant on possession so if there was rubbish on completion your solicitor, you should have taken pictures upon entering the property for your solicitor to pursue with the vendors solicitors.

Sounds like your solicitor and vendor really messed up.

PrawnAgain · 14/08/2025 11:27

You know that death happens to everyone and will happen to you one day op. It's very weird to think of it as cosmic punishment.

What like a karma do you think you're attracting by gloating about someone dying?

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 14/08/2025 11:29

The two are unrelated.

AnneLovesGilbert · 14/08/2025 11:34

So you think he deserved an untimely death because he sold you a shit tip. What did you do to deserve him screwing you over? Cos that’s how you think it works right?

bohemiancatsody · 14/08/2025 11:36

This says a lot about you OP and none of it is pleasant.

Did you think perhaps that if he left the house in a mess and died shortly after he moved he may have had health issues that prevented him dealing with the problems with the house? More a case of can't rather than won't deal with them.

I sympathise with having to live with a house not as described, I've been in the same situation. The seller was in a desperate situation so I didn't hold it against him, also it's buyer beware.

However compassion clearly isn't part of your makeup.

Weepixie · 14/08/2025 11:39

Op, unless you have your typo edited by mumsnet your threads going to be the length of a roll of wallpaper, full of posts from numpties who know you made a mistake in your post but still want to give you a telling off just because they can.