Are there any of us left without a food intolerance of some sort?

[ViolaCello]

I have been reading about food and nutrition online recently and noticed a good amount of people with intolerance issues, most often dairy and wheat. No one ever seems to develop vegetable allergies, yet if I eat a big plate of certain cooked veggies I will definitely be on the toilet within 24 hours. The poison for me is in the dose, I guess.
I have never, to my knowledge had reactions after eating wheat or dairy of any sort.
But from what I have encountered online, most of my own health niggles are presumed to be wheat allergies. If other people get them , they say it was wheat. From my nasal drip, to my trapped gas, to feeling off in general. I wonder why we don't see so many people presuming it to be potatoes, salad or seeds?

However, since reading that stuff I am now side-eyeing bloody wheat. I did 3 weeks without it and felt no different. It seems everything is presumed to be caused by foods. What if a good deal of stuff we might suffer is in the outer environment, like stuff we can't change? That's a more scary thought tbh.

I remember reading about longevity and everyone focused solely on food, but what if it is community, good sleep, creativity, or lack of pollution instead?

On another note, I have recently had a rash on my ankles and when I foolishly consulted Dr Google I found a huge amount of 'evidence' claiming this was because of wheat or dairy? (surprise surprise!) My rash wasn't raised or itchy so perhaps not, but I did notice that wheat is taking a good deal of blame for many things nowadays, especially if the symptoms are vague.

My rash could easily have been from a lot of walking in heat, or my new body lotion, or something like a virus...
I know there are some very 'tribal' attitudes towards foods these days, and people seem to want you to be in their club, almost like a religion, but it still strikes me as perplexing... and confusing!

Just want to add here that this is not a criticism, I am intrigued by it, and also wonder why there's so much of it now. People with confirmed issues have my full respect, it must be a pretty stressful thing to navigate.

Wheat has been modified so it’s not the same as people were eating 50 years ago, it’s much higher in gluten, so the fact people react is not surprising.

We eat probably a lot more of everything now, people weren’t drinking huge coffees with milk, just tea with a splash of milk. Our diets are broader, in the past people are a much more restrictive repetitive diet.

As I age I find I can’t eat certain things, red onions. I suspect in the past people didn’t eat them, ate small amounts of very overcooked veg so more digestible, or didn’t live as long.

I don't have any food intolerances or allergies and neither does DH or my three DC. I wouldn't say we're that unusual among my friends (although I do have a friend who is gluten free and a friend whose DD is dairy free).

Me. I have no food intolerances and can eat anything. I just eat to much of it all...

Lactose and dairy intolerance rates have a strong correlation to where you’re from so while it may seem like it’s an easy target if you’re white European and your ancestors ate dairy centuries ago, it really could be dairy issues if you’re from another part of the world like East Asia.

While some people say that there were no intolerances and allergies in the past, I suspect that people put up with symptoms like diarrhea and pain and that medical professionals only cared about conditions they knew about like diabetes.

When I hear about people with IBS or following diets like AIP for autoimmune issues, they often avoid certain veggies like onions so I’m not sure that veggie intolerances don’t exist.

I remembered yesterday that I can’t eat duck. I made duck spring rolls. They were delish. But they upset my stomach after.

i don’t eat duck regularly. There’s a reason for this….!

None for me.

DS is dairy and gluten free. It’s a right faff.

As he gets older it’s becoming less severe though. As an adult I hope he’ll be able to just balance how much is too much, like you with your veg.

if I eat a big plate of certain cooked veggies I will definitely be on the toilet within 24 hours

Well, its it normal for food to take 24hrs to digest??? Do you mean you get diarrhoea?

No, I have no allergies or intolerances that I'm aware of. I will try any type of food too and avoid nothing. DH is the same.

My mum had coeliac disease, and later her sister and nephew were diagnosed with it. My mum was born in 1942. I have an egg intolerance that started in the early 80s and I know all about it, stomach cramps & diarrhoea. My dad told me my nan had that too and she was born in 1905. In the nineties I started reacting to certain fruits, all from abroad. Bananas, Pineapple, Mango etc. I always have a direct and obvious reaction though (like with the eggs). I think food intolerance has been around for a very long time, people just didn't know or didn't talk about it.

Touching wood, no one - either on my side or the "outlaw" side have any intolerances or allergies.

I have several foods that I dislike, but that's not the same thing. I often think that some people call it "intolerance" when it is just dislike of certain foods. (Ducks head awaiting the bombs).

The obvious ones to watch and that are real IMO are the allergies where an epi pen is needed or coeliac/IBS etc.

Yes to newer wheat variants containing a higher level of gluten.

Also a lot of wheat intolerance is actually glyphosate intolerance, I am absolutely fine on organic ancient grain wheat.

Then there’s the 40% of the population who carry the mthfr gene meaning they can’t methylate the artificial folic acid added to ordinary bread.

To be honest I am surprised anyone isn’t sensitive to the rubbish bread in supermarkets today, makes me really cross.

I was diagnosed coeliac at age 40 this year…made so much sense!
I know two others with it…one who has no symptoms whatsoever and was only diagnosed because her brother had symptoms.

Really interesting programme on radio 4 with Hannah Fry about the doctor who identified coeliacs disease Friday just gone.

I’ve developed awful heartburn problem when I eat tomatoes. I love them 😩

People most definitely do develop vegetable allergies! My own DD is severely allergic to green beans.

As for the vegetables making you need to go to the toilet within 24 hours - that’s a normal effect of eating large quantities of fibre and it is not a bad thing. By the sound of it you need to be eating more as this should be a regular occurrence.

To be honest, it isn't just wheat that is modified now.

My bloody tomatoes and bell peppers are too.

Meat, dairy, veg, everything is 'not what it was' ...

Also the neurologist told me that certain viruses can activate intolerances and Covid was a very big example of this- I developed a weird gluten sensitivity post covid ( I’m not coeliac) - I can eat a bit if it but if I have lots get sore eyes, feel a bit disorientated , back of head migraines and buzzing pins and needles in feet and toes. I do think many have developed some weird shit like this post covid .

I’ve become much more intolerant to certain foods as I’ve aged to be honest, but I just put it down to my age and not being able to eat and drink what I want anymore. I know a few people with really bad intolerances that can be life threatening, so pleased im
not that bad myself.

and regarding rubbish in supermarkets - mm, never had any issues with crosta and mollica breads, nor a well made sourdough.~If i eat too much mass market stuff I feel uncomfortable, that kinda goes for any of it, not just bread.

I also wonder why people argue so much about it all online.
Like who actually cares what sharon in Leeds decides is bad for her gut?

We are not all the same, so giving up the same things won't work for all.

I also notice we omit more than we 'add', it is like the contemporary thing to do.

As for the vegetables making you need to go to the toilet within 24 hours - that’s a normal effect of eating large quantities of fibre and it is not a bad thing.

What if I had got the fiber from wholewheat bread or pasta? Surely most would suggest cutting them out!

None for me, nor any of my family (including siblings, nieces and nephews).

I seem to have different reactions depending on my cycle. Certain times my stomach is a lot more sensitive.

I’m the same with tomatoes! 🍅

They just don’t like me as much as I like them! I have a hiatus hernia which causes horrendous acid reflux and heartburn, so certain foods are ‘off-limits’, but I’m not allergic to them (or even intolerant really, I guess, in the real sense of the word).

I do still sometimes ‘take the burn’ though, when I fancy a curry or some tomatoes with my full English 😬

As my dear old mum used to say, ‘I’ll pay for this later!” as she ate cucumber 🤣

I also stumbled into a world of OXALATES, where even potatoes, wholegrains and nuts are going to kill me now, too

It's all a bit extreme, isn't it?
Apparently there is NO science at all to back the oxalate thing, apart from people suffering kidney stones and other renal issues. No science at all apart from a one woman crusade, and said lady is very wealthy now for spreading the word about the evil potato.

It is becoming difficult to know which is more demonised, wheat or oxalate.

I wonder if there'll be anything left soon..

I think a lot of it may be due to something a good friend said - our soil is exhausted. Big companies then pump more into the growing and processing because they own the land now. It's not surprising that our bodies are reacting.

I was fine until I got older and gave myself food poisoning. I now have issues with gluten and lactose. They won't kill me, but I get tummy trouble.

One thing I've done since covid is to make my own wholemeal soda bread with wheat bran, milled chia and flax seed. I make a big loaf and it lasts me for ages when I slice and freeze it. I do eat ordinary bread but there's nothing like my own!