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Builder brings 12 year old daughter to work

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TinyBuddhettes · 02/08/2025 07:52

Childcare issues, I get it. This contractor/builder guy is doing up our drive. His daughter mostly stays in his van but yesterday I could see that she was operating the mini digger while he was recording her. This wasn't just a couple of minutes for a photo, it went on for maybe an hour. The two of them were frolicking and being quite stupid really. I was in disbelief watching from inside the house. Our drive is now all digged up and I don't want any awkwardness or the potential of him not finishing the job. Anyone know where we stand with the law? Can we say that from a legal point of view we do not consent to an under 16 being withing the bounds of our property at any point?

OP posts:
pinkyredrose · 02/08/2025 11:32

RynNOTerine · 02/08/2025 11:04

Is her being there causing any problems? Probably not. Maybe he is paying her pocket money to give him a hand.
Are you self employed? Do you know the struggles of childcare when self employed? Probably not!
My partner had to take our 2.5 year old daughter with him to a job he was doing recently. The customer was nothing but lovely, happy, let her play in the garden, let her sit with their dog, gave her a drink and biscuits! This is exactly how I would expect someone to act. Yes having a child on site is not ideal, but do you want the job doing or not? She is causing you no issues, no danger, shes hardly clinging off scaffold - leave her be. He will have public liability, he will fully understand if anything happens accident wise it falls on him and not you as his customer. You dont know the actual reasons why she's having to be at work with him!

You would expect a client to entertain their contractors toddler? Really?

Nicaveron · 02/08/2025 11:33

TinyBuddhettes · 02/08/2025 08:58

He has asked to use my bathroom and honestly, I won't even go there, that's a different thread. At times I see the van gone and I am assumed he goes home so his daughter can use the bathroom.

Maybe the girl would be happy to come in the house and watch tv with you or maybe sit in the back garden with you and chat.
Or do you NOT like kids.
I’m sure she’d be happy to have a cold drink and a chat if you welcomed her.

Whinge · 02/08/2025 11:34

Nicaveron · 02/08/2025 11:33

Maybe the girl would be happy to come in the house and watch tv with you or maybe sit in the back garden with you and chat.
Or do you NOT like kids.
I’m sure she’d be happy to have a cold drink and a chat if you welcomed her.

The OP is working. Why do you think she should be responsible for entertaining the builder's daughter? Confused

BlueRidgeMountain · 02/08/2025 11:34

RynNOTerine · 02/08/2025 11:04

Is her being there causing any problems? Probably not. Maybe he is paying her pocket money to give him a hand.
Are you self employed? Do you know the struggles of childcare when self employed? Probably not!
My partner had to take our 2.5 year old daughter with him to a job he was doing recently. The customer was nothing but lovely, happy, let her play in the garden, let her sit with their dog, gave her a drink and biscuits! This is exactly how I would expect someone to act. Yes having a child on site is not ideal, but do you want the job doing or not? She is causing you no issues, no danger, shes hardly clinging off scaffold - leave her be. He will have public liability, he will fully understand if anything happens accident wise it falls on him and not you as his customer. You dont know the actual reasons why she's having to be at work with him!

Ok. Let’s look at this from a different perspective. How would you view me as an HCP taking my child to work? Do you know the difficulties faced by full time employed (in NHS) people? Would you be happy letting him sit in the room while I explain what I’ll be doing during your appointment, performing a complex medical examination? Would you offer drinks and biscuits? Surely you either want the procedure done or not? Maybe that’s how I would expect you to act…

it’s not professional to be taking your children to work, be it as an HCP, builder, decorator whatever. And if you are expecting your clients to entertain them while you get on with the job then maybe you should be paying them for childcare.

TinyBuddhettes · 02/08/2025 11:35

Nicaveron · 02/08/2025 11:33

Maybe the girl would be happy to come in the house and watch tv with you or maybe sit in the back garden with you and chat.
Or do you NOT like kids.
I’m sure she’d be happy to have a cold drink and a chat if you welcomed her.

Are you even serious? I am working. So is my husband. I have made arrangements for my own kids, I most certainly don't want to be entertaining someone else's.

OP posts:
pinkyredrose · 02/08/2025 11:36

Shedmistress · 02/08/2025 11:12

I thought as a society we wanted men to step up and we wanted more girls to think outside the box and do things other than obsess over their bodies and looks?

'Not in my front yard' it would seem.

Taking your daughter to work and allowing her to piss around on a digger so that she doesn't 'obsess over bodies and looks'? Give over!

ButterCrackers · 02/08/2025 11:37

Tell him that he can’t bring his dd to work on your building site. If there’s an accident what would happen insurance wise? You are not a childminder either. He needs to have childcare sorted. On Monday he will be there as agreed in the contract but without his dd which you have not agreed to have on site.

Bjorkdidit · 02/08/2025 11:38

BlueRidgeMountain · 02/08/2025 11:34

Ok. Let’s look at this from a different perspective. How would you view me as an HCP taking my child to work? Do you know the difficulties faced by full time employed (in NHS) people? Would you be happy letting him sit in the room while I explain what I’ll be doing during your appointment, performing a complex medical examination? Would you offer drinks and biscuits? Surely you either want the procedure done or not? Maybe that’s how I would expect you to act…

it’s not professional to be taking your children to work, be it as an HCP, builder, decorator whatever. And if you are expecting your clients to entertain them while you get on with the job then maybe you should be paying them for childcare.

Yes, let's say you're a radiographer and you bring your 12 YO in to press the button to take patient X-rays, that's totally fine isn't it?

Whistlingformysupper · 02/08/2025 11:39

TinyBuddhettes · 02/08/2025 08:58

He has asked to use my bathroom and honestly, I won't even go there, that's a different thread. At times I see the van gone and I am assumed he goes home so his daughter can use the bathroom.

You sound awful. When I have tradespeople on my property they are always made welcome to use the loo, pop their lunch in the fridge if they want and I'll always make them a drink and offer a biscuit. If I'm not around I let them know where the tea coffee milk are and leave mugs and a tray out etc and they are welcome to make a drink!
I never understand what people expect tradespeople to do if they need the loo, of course they have to use yours, do you expect them to go for a wee in the bushes?!

StMarie4me · 02/08/2025 11:42

ButterCrackers · 02/08/2025 11:37

Tell him that he can’t bring his dd to work on your building site. If there’s an accident what would happen insurance wise? You are not a childminder either. He needs to have childcare sorted. On Monday he will be there as agreed in the contract but without his dd which you have not agreed to have on site.

He can have his daughter in his van. That is not for OP to negate.
He mustn’t allow her on the drive.
OP should let him use the loo. Personally I would allow the daughter too as well but she doesn’t have to.

LizaRadleywasonthespectrum · 02/08/2025 11:42

Digged up?

SilverHammer · 02/08/2025 11:44

Nicaveron · 02/08/2025 11:33

Maybe the girl would be happy to come in the house and watch tv with you or maybe sit in the back garden with you and chat.
Or do you NOT like kids.
I’m sure she’d be happy to have a cold drink and a chat if you welcomed her.

You are joking? Why should the OP be providing child care for someone else.

user1476613140 · 02/08/2025 11:46

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 02/08/2025 09:34

It’s a drive resurfacing, not a fucking tower block. ‘Rest area’ 🤪 ! You missed out the mini kitchen and the four poster bed for a siesta….

🤣

user1476613140 · 02/08/2025 11:46

LizaRadleywasonthespectrum · 02/08/2025 11:42

Digged up?

Diggy diggy dig dig!

user3827 · 02/08/2025 11:47

Not sure what the problem is. Is the work you want being done? I mean she’s getting work experience, surely to be encouraged?

user1476613140 · 02/08/2025 11:47

Bjorkdidit · 02/08/2025 11:38

Yes, let's say you're a radiographer and you bring your 12 YO in to press the button to take patient X-rays, that's totally fine isn't it?

🤣🤣🤣

ButterCrackers · 02/08/2025 11:49

SilverHammer · 02/08/2025 11:44

You are joking? Why should the OP be providing child care for someone else.

It’s because the op is a woman and some people think that women are there to look after kids instead of men. This man can’t sort out childcare so the op has to pick up the slack and chat and such tv with his kid. Obviously it’s completely unacceptable.

edwinbear · 02/08/2025 11:51

I’d assume he’s had a nightmare with childcare and the choice is either she comes with him, or he delays your job until after the summer holidays. I can’t imagine he’s thrilled at having his DD with him at work. Maybe her mum was supposed to look after her but is ill, maybe she was booked in to a club that’s been cancelled, maybe she was going to grandparents who now can’t have her for some reason. I’ll bet this wasn’t his first choice though.

taxidriver · 02/08/2025 11:52

TinyBuddhettes · 02/08/2025 11:35

Are you even serious? I am working. So is my husband. I have made arrangements for my own kids, I most certainly don't want to be entertaining someone else's.

you dont need to entertain her
you could offer her your TV, i guess she is happier in the van

user3827 · 02/08/2025 11:52

Bjorkdidit · 02/08/2025 11:38

Yes, let's say you're a radiographer and you bring your 12 YO in to press the button to take patient X-rays, that's totally fine isn't it?

I think my idea of a 12 yr old is more capable than other people’s ideas… showing kids work experience is great imo

But then mine has been using a knife since 3 and helps with chores at home. He doesn’t goto kids activities he does family ones. We are not a kid friendly society, intolerant of their presence yet baby them at the same time

herbalteabag · 02/08/2025 11:53

I don't think I would be that bothered unless the quality of the work was at risk.

As for the medical appointment scenario mentioned above - I wouldn't be happy with that as it's confidential medical information.

HonestOpalHelper · 02/08/2025 11:53

I've had my 13 year old lad working with me on site - he's adept at pulling wires through conduit runs, can wire up ring circuits, fit sockets, construct dado sections.

Good for kids to learn some skills.

Whinge · 02/08/2025 11:54

edwinbear · 02/08/2025 11:51

I’d assume he’s had a nightmare with childcare and the choice is either she comes with him, or he delays your job until after the summer holidays. I can’t imagine he’s thrilled at having his DD with him at work. Maybe her mum was supposed to look after her but is ill, maybe she was booked in to a club that’s been cancelled, maybe she was going to grandparents who now can’t have her for some reason. I’ll bet this wasn’t his first choice though.

But none of those scenarios; or any others, means it's acceptable for the young girl to be pratting around driving a digger on the OP's property while her dad films her.

Cattery · 02/08/2025 11:54

LizaRadleywasonthespectrum · 02/08/2025 11:42

Digged up?

I know. Golden isn’t it

Daisy12Maisie · 02/08/2025 11:55

I would say we are working from home so busy but she is welcome to come in and use the WiFi/ watch tv/ use the toilet.
Where I live tradespeople are so difficult to get I would go out of my way not to upset them. It may be different where you live.

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