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Thread 27 Starmer: He's a very clever cat

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DuncinToffee · 11/07/2025 18:03

A nod to the Chief Mouser

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countrygirl99 · 17/07/2025 17:02

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 15:48

When I went to vote in 2019, there was a gentleman in front of me who must have been 80. He had no idea what to do and had to ask the returning officers to check he was "doing it right as it's my first time".

It will nag me to the grave what it was about 2019 that made someone who had dodged at least 10 general elections, 3 referendums and countless local elections to wake up in the morning and say "my country needs my vote".

I still think the default for voting should be in person though. Postal voting makes me nervous.

If he had dementia it may not be his first time. My mum has forgotten she lived in one particular town for nearly 20 years and there were significant life events while they were there such as both my parents retired, golden wedding anniversary, the wedding of my youngest brother and births of all 7 grandchildren that you would think would serve as reminders.

Notonthestairs · 17/07/2025 17:05

DuncinToffee · 17/07/2025 16:37

Fucking hell

The data breach contained personal details of not just Afghanis, but of more than 100 British officials including spies.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c706jdlr934t?post=asset%3A9e24f612-ed83-4802-929d-d83a927d58d7#post

Appalling. Just appalling.

placemats · 17/07/2025 17:13

I cared for a dementia patient who was a member of the Conservative party and a lovely man he was. He was going to vote for Boris, couldn't remember his surname but he thought he was a fine chap.

He was obviously going to vote conservative in the 2019 election. No idea if he's alive now.

placemats · 17/07/2025 17:20

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 16:23

At the moment, the legislation in Germany does not account for countries that have left the EU.

I bet that goes unmentioned in the reporting.

Not even Greenland has fully left the EU. It's part of the OCT.- Overseas Country and Territory.

placemats · 17/07/2025 17:27

And of course there's that thorny problem of Northern Ireland post Brexit which still means free trade and travel for those living and working there. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 17:41

countrygirl99 · 17/07/2025 17:02

If he had dementia it may not be his first time. My mum has forgotten she lived in one particular town for nearly 20 years and there were significant life events while they were there such as both my parents retired, golden wedding anniversary, the wedding of my youngest brother and births of all 7 grandchildren that you would think would serve as reminders.

If he had dementia it may not be his first time.

He didn't seem to be suffering - totally alert and cogent from what I heard with the polling station staff. Having seen my DM fall prey to that horrible fate, it didn't chime. However I'm not expert so anything is possible.

Ultimately it's not really important. Nothing about 2019 was enough to stir the resident 1 in 3 who can't be arsed to vote, so no harm, no foul as it were.

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 17:53

I like this : new, direct rail link between London and Berlin

I mean it's been 30+ years and I am still waiting for the direct links from outside London (my memory was Edinburgh to Paris was promised) but at this stage of the game you have to take what you can get.

Lucky Nigel can now get to the in-Laws quicker.

countrygirl99 · 17/07/2025 18:07

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 17:41

If he had dementia it may not be his first time.

He didn't seem to be suffering - totally alert and cogent from what I heard with the polling station staff. Having seen my DM fall prey to that horrible fate, it didn't chime. However I'm not expert so anything is possible.

Ultimately it's not really important. Nothing about 2019 was enough to stir the resident 1 in 3 who can't be arsed to vote, so no harm, no foul as it were.

My mum can still appear totally cogent for short periods when she is dealing with officials. Had the social worker convinced she's in a choir that performs internationally (not since 2004) and manages her finances using the computer (has never done online banking and DB pays all her bills because she can't even remember to pay the paper bill) a few months ago. But then again he might really have been voting for the first time for some strange reason and been totally with it.

Karistyleaftea · 17/07/2025 18:15

BBC again - interviewing teenagers who, "No we don't think we will vote, politicians all the same etc" , pics of 12 year olds who can vote in 4 years time.
Where is the balance, where is the impartial reporting?
Honestly not worth the licence fee.
In my opinion.

SerendipityJane · 17/07/2025 18:18

Karistyleaftea · 17/07/2025 18:15

BBC again - interviewing teenagers who, "No we don't think we will vote, politicians all the same etc" , pics of 12 year olds who can vote in 4 years time.
Where is the balance, where is the impartial reporting?
Honestly not worth the licence fee.
In my opinion.

That's if you pay it.

placemats · 17/07/2025 18:20

Diane Abbott suspended from the Labour Party.

placemats · 17/07/2025 18:24

Karistyleaftea · 17/07/2025 18:15

BBC again - interviewing teenagers who, "No we don't think we will vote, politicians all the same etc" , pics of 12 year olds who can vote in 4 years time.
Where is the balance, where is the impartial reporting?
Honestly not worth the licence fee.
In my opinion.

All done with the backdrop of edgy art murals. All teenagers very articulate. I knew who I would vote for when I was 16. SDLP. Couldn't wait.

Karistyleaftea · 17/07/2025 18:31

My younger family members, (including the wider family) have known from the youngest age that Aunt Karistyleaftea will be hugely disappointed in them if they don't vote.

I never ask who they voted for.
I think I am also quite keen on the idea of compulsory voting.

cardibach · 17/07/2025 18:44

PandoraSocks · 17/07/2025 16:07

Exactly. Also, Scotland has had the policy in place for about a decade.

Excuse the typo I’ve just seen. Should say ‘black hole affair’. I checked as I typed. Why do phones now change as you press send?

BIossomtoes · 17/07/2025 18:56

cardibach · 17/07/2025 18:44

Excuse the typo I’ve just seen. Should say ‘black hole affair’. I checked as I typed. Why do phones now change as you press send?

Because they hate us.

itsgettingweird · 17/07/2025 20:16

cardibach · 17/07/2025 18:44

Excuse the typo I’ve just seen. Should say ‘black hole affair’. I checked as I typed. Why do phones now change as you press send?

Yea that winds me up that I spell check and it still produces something entirely different after pressing send!

BIossomtoes · 18/07/2025 09:01

I see this is being spun as the government’s fault despite it being clear that it’s because of Trump’s tarrifs.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/07/17/jaguar-land-rover-to-cut-500-uk-jobs/

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2025 09:12

The Telegraph is just anti Labour now. They hide the facts in a word salad and hope people don't read the full article.

Most of the post and run threads are based on Telegraph articles

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Notonthestairs · 18/07/2025 09:28

The Telegraph was sold to an American private equity firm and I suspect is under increasing pressure to make some money as well as flog r/w thought - hence the increasing hysterical Op Eds which have to use the word Doom in the title and the fictional articles about p/s parents needing to cancel their third holiday.

My Dad has had it delivered for 55 years and is quite r/w - he describes it as his “cartoon”.

Sports coverage is still worth a read though.

bombastix · 18/07/2025 09:31

I like the Telegraph for its gardening, food and “Matt” pocket cartoon.

It also used to have very good coverage of international events, with a fantastic style guide that meant you had to have the critical facts of each matter in the first paragraph.

Now it’s reactionary rubbish and has gone full disgusted of Tunbridge Wells

bombastix · 18/07/2025 09:33

Also this is interesting and nuanced on how Reform are working at Kent county council. Reform looking much more Tory, and really eating that vote up it seems;

www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-doge-reform-uk-zia-yusuf-elon-musk/

BIossomtoes · 18/07/2025 09:34

My bloke has a subscription, we refer to it as the comic.

SerendipityJane · 18/07/2025 09:36

bombastix · 18/07/2025 09:33

Also this is interesting and nuanced on how Reform are working at Kent county council. Reform looking much more Tory, and really eating that vote up it seems;

www.politico.eu/article/nigel-farage-doge-reform-uk-zia-yusuf-elon-musk/

Kent Reform want all the anti immigration measures scrapped. They know exactly where there support is embedded.

LlynTegid · 18/07/2025 11:36

Karistyleaftea · 17/07/2025 18:15

BBC again - interviewing teenagers who, "No we don't think we will vote, politicians all the same etc" , pics of 12 year olds who can vote in 4 years time.
Where is the balance, where is the impartial reporting?
Honestly not worth the licence fee.
In my opinion.

Nick Robinson and Laura Kuennsberg two of the highest paid at the BBC. Nearly as good an argument for abolition of the licence fee as Mrs Brown's Boys.

DuncinToffee · 18/07/2025 18:23

Fascinating BBC story about Reform MP Sarah Pochin saying a local street is blighted by immigrations living in shared accommodation, only for locals to suggest this is bollocks.

Political lesson: take on church wardens and sensible pensioners at your peril.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98w0dj0x8ko

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