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I can't home educate ds can I?

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Youagain2025 · 09/07/2025 09:42

I think i already know the answer to this but want to confirm I guess.

Im so worried about DS going to secondary school. Im trying for a SEN school but what if he doesn't get in. He wont cope mentally or emotionally in a mainstream. Hes working at year 1 level has an ehcp and autism.

There's a part of me thinking about home education. But since I have learning difficulties myself. Im not sure i would be a suitable person to do that. And im thinking im likely to ruin his education. But I also don't want him emotionally and mentally damaged at a large mainstream school.

Im also worried I may isolate him.

I cant afford things like private tutors etc.

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Purpleisnotmycolour · 09/07/2025 12:00

I think you might benefit from someone to help advocate for you. I'm not sure if there are any support groups nearby. It must be exhausting dealing with this. Is there a carers group for parents in your area?

perpetualplatespinning · 09/07/2025 12:37

Be careful with SENDIASS. Some are good but too many repeat the LA’s unlawful policies.

It may help you to re-read your previous thread again. You will be able to appeal if the LA doesn’t name your preferred school.

You should have a phase transfer review meeting in the autumn term of Y6. During the review process, you will be able to state your preferred school. Despite what some LAs tell parents, you do not need to state a mainstream school as well as a special/specialist school, you don’t need to state more than one school, and you don’t need to complete a separate application form.

I really wouldn’t take DSs to the school viewing. You won’t be able to fully focus on discussions with the school whilst DSs are there.

Youagain2025 · 09/07/2025 12:45

Dontwanttobeanebsnamum · 09/07/2025 11:42

I don’t think this is great advice for a ND child. I think it’s too much work and asking him to sit and work for a sold 45 mins is probably not a realistic expectation.

Yeah hes not able to do school plus 45 min after school he needs the time to regulate.

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Youagain2025 · 09/07/2025 12:49

Knackeredmommy · 09/07/2025 11:42

If he has an EHCP, schools will be consulted by the SEN team to see if they can meet need and offer him a place. You won’t apply through the usual admissions process. If he’s yr 5 he should have had a phase transfer annual review to discuss schools for yr 7 by now. SENDIASS will be able to offer advice but chase his EHC caseworker for a meeting

Thats been done. Just dont think im being listend to.

Im not sure schools are always honest about meeting his needs.

I will see what sendias say.

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pinkdelight · 09/07/2025 12:51

Just checking about this:

There's one school that has a unit . Thats not a hope in hell i will put him in that school.

What is the reason to discount it? You might well be right to, but if it has a unit geared to children like your DS and has a space for him, I'm wondering what is so bad about it that considering homeschooling is better? Is it experience you've had there or more based on reputation or about the wider school not the unit?

Youagain2025 · 09/07/2025 12:51

Purpleisnotmycolour · 09/07/2025 12:00

I think you might benefit from someone to help advocate for you. I'm not sure if there are any support groups nearby. It must be exhausting dealing with this. Is there a carers group for parents in your area?

Im not sure. I think that's whay SENDIAS is for .

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Youagain2025 · 09/07/2025 12:59

perpetualplatespinning · 09/07/2025 12:37

Be careful with SENDIASS. Some are good but too many repeat the LA’s unlawful policies.

It may help you to re-read your previous thread again. You will be able to appeal if the LA doesn’t name your preferred school.

You should have a phase transfer review meeting in the autumn term of Y6. During the review process, you will be able to state your preferred school. Despite what some LAs tell parents, you do not need to state a mainstream school as well as a special/specialist school, you don’t need to state more than one school, and you don’t need to complete a separate application form.

I really wouldn’t take DSs to the school viewing. You won’t be able to fully focus on discussions with the school whilst DSs are there.

I will be taking ds to school viewings I don't think that's fair on him not to.

Yeah im worried about SENDIAS . I feel like they may just back up the LA regardless . Its really hard to find genuine help that's actually for the child without some type of agenda because LA dont give a shit.

Yeah im wondering if the phase meeting will just be more BS.

I do scan the other threads. It was just I wanted to ask opinion on home education. I forget stuff to so it helps me recap . Like I forgot about the SENDIAS so I sorted that . But not sure how helpful they will be but obviously give it a try

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perpetualplatespinning · 09/07/2025 13:01

Have you checked the special school is OK with you taking children? Some do not allow children on initial visits. They are generally different to open days/evenings at mainstream secondary schools.

Youagain2025 · 09/07/2025 13:34

perpetualplatespinning · 09/07/2025 13:01

Have you checked the special school is OK with you taking children? Some do not allow children on initial visits. They are generally different to open days/evenings at mainstream secondary schools.

The one im visiting is not a sen school.

Im on a waiting list for the sen school visit. I will check with them.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/07/2025 08:20

Does he have an ehcp? If not, please apply for one immediately.
He will only be considered for special schools if they have spaces. Go and visit as many as you can .

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/07/2025 08:23

You also need permission from the LA to home school an ehcp child , you'd need to prove you had a good enough curriculum for him

Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 09:22

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/07/2025 08:20

Does he have an ehcp? If not, please apply for one immediately.
He will only be considered for special schools if they have spaces. Go and visit as many as you can .

He does have an ehcp .

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Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 09:25

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 10/07/2025 08:23

You also need permission from the LA to home school an ehcp child , you'd need to prove you had a good enough curriculum for him

I get it . But still feels like they are hypocrites. Like they want to check me which I understand i mean im questioning myself. But yet they are happy to dump him onto a large mainstream school where he probably wouldn't cope .

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perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:10

You also need permission from the LA to home school an ehcp child

Not quite. If a CSA DC is on the roll of SS and funded by the LA, you need permission to deregister (which isn’t quite the same as permission to EHE). OP’s DS is in mainstream at the moment, so that wouldn’t apply.

Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 19:22

perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:10

You also need permission from the LA to home school an ehcp child

Not quite. If a CSA DC is on the roll of SS and funded by the LA, you need permission to deregister (which isn’t quite the same as permission to EHE). OP’s DS is in mainstream at the moment, so that wouldn’t apply.

I think i would only do it as a last resort. Until they have a suitable place for him. But hopefully it wont come to that

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perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:27

Personally, I wouldn’t EHE. If you do that, the LA has no incentive not to name a special school. You home educating saves them money. Instead, appeal the EHCP.

MuggleMe · 10/07/2025 19:32

An alternative to home educating is education other than at school that the school/LA? Have to support. You've not unenrolled, he's not at school because he can't cope with it.

perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:35

EOTAS/EOTIS is only legally possible if it is inappropriate for provision to be made in a school. That doesn’t sound like it is the case for OP’s DS.

With EOTAS/EOTIS, you are not enrolled at any school. Section I of the EHCP is blank. But the LA retain responsibility. The parent is not responsible for any of it and cannot be compelled to facilitate or deliver the provision.

Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 19:36

MuggleMe · 10/07/2025 19:32

An alternative to home educating is education other than at school that the school/LA? Have to support. You've not unenrolled, he's not at school because he can't cope with it.

I don't understand the post.

Are you saying if I take him out to not deregister but to still take him out and tell them why and that he will go back into education as soon ad they find him a place that's suitable for HIM.?

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helpfulperson · 10/07/2025 19:43

Do you have support for your learning disabilities? You are obviously managing really well but might benefit from someone like a family support worker to help you navigate the system.

Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 19:46

perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:27

Personally, I wouldn’t EHE. If you do that, the LA has no incentive not to name a special school. You home educating saves them money. Instead, appeal the EHCP.

But could leave him in school messing him up mentally and emotionally etc.

Im worried hes going to get punished for having special needs. Ds will do things like not write one word for the whole lesson . He wont say if he doesn't understand. Even if he does under he will forget once he's onto question 2. He can't cope with loud projecting voices. He already misses computer lessons as he gets taken out because he cant manage .

In year 4 he had a teacher that shouted at him saying this is not good enough.and other simlar things. Ds still talks and worries about ot now.

Ds also cant find words he needs and ge closes ip and withdraws

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Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 19:48

perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:35

EOTAS/EOTIS is only legally possible if it is inappropriate for provision to be made in a school. That doesn’t sound like it is the case for OP’s DS.

With EOTAS/EOTIS, you are not enrolled at any school. Section I of the EHCP is blank. But the LA retain responsibility. The parent is not responsible for any of it and cannot be compelled to facilitate or deliver the provision.

I have absolutely no idea what any of that means.

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Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 19:50

helpfulperson · 10/07/2025 19:43

Do you have support for your learning disabilities? You are obviously managing really well but might benefit from someone like a family support worker to help you navigate the system.

No I dont. I have recently contact SENDIAS so im waiting on them

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perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:56

Not electively home educating DS does not mean you have or send him to a mainstream secondary school.

If you appeal ASAP after the phase transfer EHCP is finalised (which should be by the 15th Feb 2026), the appeal will be heard before the start of Y7.

If you appeal later, the hearing may not be heard until after the start of Y7 because there isn’t enough court time to ensure all phase transfer appeals are heard beforehand. But, that doesn’t mean you have to send DS to a mainstream secondary school. You don’t. But don’t deregister and electively home educate either.

EOTAS/EOTIS is education otherwise than at/in school. A package of education for some DC outside of a school. The child isn’t on the roll of a school. And the section in the EHCP stating the placement is empty. The LA is responsible for the child or young person’s education. EOTAS/EOTIS is only possible if it is inappropriate, in the legal sense, for provision to be made in a school. From your posts, it doesn’t sound like it is inappropriate for provision for DS to be made in a school. Therefore, it wouldn’t be possible for an EOTAS/EOTIS package to be made via the EHCP for DS.

Youagain2025 · 10/07/2025 20:01

perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 19:56

Not electively home educating DS does not mean you have or send him to a mainstream secondary school.

If you appeal ASAP after the phase transfer EHCP is finalised (which should be by the 15th Feb 2026), the appeal will be heard before the start of Y7.

If you appeal later, the hearing may not be heard until after the start of Y7 because there isn’t enough court time to ensure all phase transfer appeals are heard beforehand. But, that doesn’t mean you have to send DS to a mainstream secondary school. You don’t. But don’t deregister and electively home educate either.

EOTAS/EOTIS is education otherwise than at/in school. A package of education for some DC outside of a school. The child isn’t on the roll of a school. And the section in the EHCP stating the placement is empty. The LA is responsible for the child or young person’s education. EOTAS/EOTIS is only possible if it is inappropriate, in the legal sense, for provision to be made in a school. From your posts, it doesn’t sound like it is inappropriate for provision for DS to be made in a school. Therefore, it wouldn’t be possible for an EOTAS/EOTIS package to be made via the EHCP for DS.

Sorry to be an arse this to confusing for me
I need it in really basic simple terms

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