Mushroom poisoner has been found guilty

[Viviennemary]

Just seen on the news she's been found guilty. I haven't really followed this in detail. But it does sound like she was guilty. With the different coloured plates and so on. But I suppose there is always an element of doubt.

She did tell a lot of lies to the police.

I just read this fascinating article. It seems her husband thinks he had been poisoned by her multiple times before and that’s the reason he didn’t attend the meal. They were going to bring this as a separate charge but decided not to in the end.
https://archive.ph/IDg8m

Oh my... this is horrifying!

I think she was not ill herself, so she discharged herself.

She sounds nuts. However, I wonder of she just intended to make them ill. Especially if it's true that she tried to poison her ex husband several times.

I feel so sorry for her kids.

Their father is clearly a waste of time - would not pay proper child support even though he had a professional career/qualifications and she inherited $2million while they were married and he walked away with half of that. The son gave evidence that he didn't want to be at his dad's house because there was nothing to do there.

They were close to their grandparents and have now lost them.

I hope they are given support and the opportunity to make something of their lives without this story following them everywhere.

I have not followed but opened some things today to read. No where mentioned where mushrooms came from.
I would expect if from a shop anyone can presume they won't kill someone
If from fields she could say didn't know poisonous
To be honest it would put me off buying and eating mushrooms

She looked up where to find the poisonous mushrooms then drove out to the location to pick them, took them home and dried them.

@853ax At one point she claimed she had bought the mushrooms from an independent Asian grocery store but ‘couldn’t remember’ which store or where it was. But there was evidence that she had foraged the mushrooms herself. She had Googled death cap mushrooms and where to find them and then her phone signal had supposedly been traced near two of the sites she had read about. I think the defence argued that such phone records are not 100% reliable but I don’t know enough about the technology to know if that’s the case.

"When they do kill, women are far more likely to choose a passive method such as this rather than a violent and confrontational method eg physical violence."

There quite a high degree of planning and premeditation involved in this case. Buying a dehydrator, researching the mushrooms, foraging them, separate serving for husband in case he changed his mind. I wouldn't describe this as "passive".

Poisoning cases do often get more coverage, even get films made about them etc. the murders may not have been violent but it sounded like a horrible way to die.

They were astonishingly poorly made. As if by a small child.

Those poor people, accepting her invitation, and praying for her.

To be fair though, not usually with mushrooms.

To be fair to the children’s dad though, he had been incredibly unwell and close to death (after eating a meal Erin had cooked for him) requiring a 3 week ICU stay and a bowel resection. There had been another hospital stay prior after she fed him spaghetti Bol.

He most likely would have still been tired and recovering from being so sick.

I am in Australia and have been following this case closely - she lied so much! I thought she was guilty and a very dangerous woman

Their father is clearly a waste of time

Your swallowing her point of view, as did her son, and her lies - the word of a proven mass murderer/family annhilator, and the woman whose own defense was, yes, she lied there and there and about that too, but it was all an accident! A woman who even lied on the stand.

To be fair, those leftovers had been fished out of the bin before they were photographed.

KateMiskin The Mail(sorry ) reported that she was left a vast sum ,maybe about 1 million or so?And this was split between the couple when they divorced .Apparently she asked him to come over as well ,but he declined ! She was apparently unhappy about it .

There is footage of Dr Foote at the hospital fishing one enormous half out of the Woolworths bag and photographing it. That's what I'm referring to.

Video of that is here:

Erin Patterson trial: First photo of beef wellington as exhibits released by Victorian Supreme Court | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site for latest headlines

They are not divorced.

And that article you linked to, explains that police took the leftovers from an outside bin and took them to the hospital for the Dr to examine.

Why did she poison them and I wonder why she put it in the food instead of a vial into a drink

I guess because it's interesting, and of course the mushroom factor!

It's called passive because the victims, in this case, ingest their own means of death, though unknowingly.

Active is actions such as shooting, stabbing or strangulation of the victim by the murderer.

Not really. Her son gave evidence that he didn’t like being at his dads. Plus the ex husband gave evidence saying he thought he was possibly entitled to the further inheritance she received several years after their divorce was final.

They are not divorced! They separated in 2015 and have got back together regularly since then, on Erin's terms, and gone on family holidays together in Australia and overseas.

Her son said he didn't like being at his dad's because it was boring. He's had Erin in his ear since childhood, and had no doubt been poisoned subtly or otherwise against him - but a young boy finding his father's house more boring than his mother's is not an indictment of Simon Patterson's character.

The charges against Erin of attempted murder of SP are serious. They won't be heard now, but it does not remove the horror of what he experienced. I think it is in poor taste to malign the victims.

The evidence throughout this trial just built up and built up, difficult to see how anyone could not see this as a replanned murder.

There is so much of it @Viviennemary it was a unique case, you should read back through the reports, there are many, of the trial.

Whilst a motive can be speculative the facts presented in this case indicate that she knew what she was doing, with intent to cause death by poisoning, and in the process try and incorporate “reasonable” doubt to be acquitted.

And the evidence just built up on this daily.

We even thought it could be the master plan of the husband and she has taken the rap. If it is he has got away with murder.

She was always guilty, the evidence was immense.