How could Reform form a government when they are such an absolute shitshow?

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James McMurdock (the Reform MP who beat up his girlfriend) has just removed the whip from himself.

Rupert Lowe got kicked out (presumably for being named by Elon Musk as a better potential leader than Farage).

Zia Yusuf, the chairman resigned saying it was a waste of time, and then immediately unresigned.

And yet the polls suggest that they may win the next General Election, with a majority of MPs. What is the path to victory there?

OP- what makes you think Farage wants to be Prime Minister? That’s a tough job for relatively low pay, if you compare it to the approx £1m he’s made in his first year as an MP.

Farage has hopped from party to party, always right wing anti-Europe and a bit (or a lot) racist. Generally he’s good at a rousing speech and forcing the conservatives to address whatever issues he’s decided to highlight, but he’s always been shit at actually doing the jobs he’s won.

Find me a political party whose MPs aren't regularly found to be having adulterous affairs, driving over the drink/drive limit, behaving inappropriately towards interns or fiddling their expenses or their mortgage application forms..

They are all as bad as one another.

And as for their ability to run a country, we have ample evidence that the Labour & Tory parties are abysmal at it. We have yet to see how Reform will perform. Perhaps they should be allowed to try.

(I'm not arguing for a Reform govt, I'm just pointing out how nonsensical your argument is.)

Even if they did win, their MPs will probably just resign or go awol. They're an absolute shower. Someone described it as akin to herding cats 😂 managing the economy? Can any of them even count up to 10?

In all fairness, when the country is in a worse financial state than when we had the Liz Truss disaster, when the government keeps doing a U turn on policies, when hard workers are being taxed out of existence, when the promise was to reduce illegal immigration and the numbers are higher than ever, when doctors can’t get jobs, I can see people would vote for anything rather than the last and current political party.

Oh what, someone like Jeremy Corbyn?

Nigel Farage isn’t interested in being PM. He's interested in creating chaos and pushing the agenda to suit the shady people who pay him. He's a grifter.

Unfortunately, there's another grifter who is running the USA unchecked and unchallenged at the moment. He's not really interested in doing the work of being President either. He just wants people to bow down to him.

Meanwhile President Putin is having a great time.

So do you think Farage will quit as Reform leader before the general election and the Reform vote will then collapse as he is integral to it, or do you think that someone else could lead Reform to electoral victory?

They’ll fall apart long before the next general election
They all hate Farage.
i did laugh when a reporter said they were the only party who could all get in a black Taxi( Beth Rigby Probably, love her interviews)

I'm pointing out that Reform don't even seem to be able to manage being a coherent party with what started as 5 MPs, how on earth would they form a government. How would Prime Minister Farage pick his cabinet and sit around a table and work with them when every party he has ever run seems to collapse with infighting?

I mean this is what polling is suggesting that people want running the country. So what is that path to victory when the party itself is such a shambles?

Fraud.

Well look no further than Boris Johnson, no morals whatsoever.

They'd be absolutely disaster. Grifters to last man, (even more) incompetent and much more corrupt than the current bunch. Still, enough people could vote for enthusiasm because they think that a 'change' would be good, not realising they'll just get the same, but worse.

They're already demonstrating that they actually have no clue how local government works- can you imagine how much worse it'll be if they got into national government?

They’ve also put teenagers in charge of councils. Bet those constituents are thrilled by that.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/05/nigel-farage-reform-uk-teenage-councillors-vital-public-services?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

They may be mostly a joke but k strongly suspect there will be a few bright sparks behind the scenes who could take the reins when the chance arises - like hitler did in Germany - it was assumed he was a joke and easily controlled and look how that turns out

I feel so sad for the UK, I really do. All anyone will say when you criticise Reform for exactly what you say in the thread title, is 'but the others are worse'. Get a grip, they are awful but not bloody worse than Reform, who are all grifters, and not even bright enough to hide it.

They're the political equivalent of those Nigerian prince emails.

Agreed. It's sad that people will still vote for them though. This isn't a party it's a business.

Farage stoked the Brexit fervour, it is underestimating if Reform is written off, Tories and Labour need to get their shit together, confront voters concerns and address them. To not do so would be a folly.

How would they get from 4 to a few hundred by the next GE? All it takes is for the polls to not move much from where they are now. It doesn't matter if the current 4 have all resigned by 2029. If they are getting 20-30% of votes they will have a lot of MPs.

Not sure why that posted twice sorry.

They will sadly be the next government I genuinely believe as the other choices have not dealt with or taken seriously the majority of the countries concerns in relation to:
immigration
crime
prisons
benefits and the fact that “work does not actually pay” for many people
NHS
gender

their campaigns will exploit the current parties avoidance of taking a clear stance on these issues and they will get in, sad but I believe true

are they the solution? No
will people vote for a desperate change? Yes

I wonder if people would be so willing to vote for them if Reform were still called The Brexit Party? Because Brexit has been a shitshow too.

I'm not sure Reform will still exist by the time of the next election. Farage goes through political parties quicker than I go through cheap knickers.

He can get away with abusive violent behaviour but not fraud. Nothing much changes.

It happened in 1930s Germany.

I agree. Reform voters are those who have been ignored by all the major parties and are now going to get their revenge on the political classes.

Basically, no matter how bad a Reform government is it can't make their lives any worse and no other party has ever done anything to make them any better.