Are year 6 boys really obnoxious?

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My son is suspected audhd and is on reduced hours as he was struggling again recently after an excellent year

I know the year 6s have just done their sats and are going up to big school etc so they're likely stressed as much as they like to act the big I Am

They seem to revel in winding my son up, today they did so til he lashed out, he's always extremely honest to a fault, not sure if it's a part of the autism, and will tell on them and exactly what they've done or said, one time they were looking at rude images on the bus so he told the teacher, this time they were calling him moonpig, which is the card company surely and I really don't understand what that's about!
Then they were asking why he had coloured streaks in his hair for non uniform day and laughing about it. My son is a bit of an individual and likes having little quirky things to be different and they always seem to pick up on it and take the mick. He has someone sit near him on the bus as they've started before and they've managed to upset him again. I've tried to say tell the teacher, ignore them, walk away etc

I just don't know if I should email school again about their behaviour, they stop for a bit then know how to wind him up yet again.

Is this just year 6 boys? They seem to know exactly what to say to upset people, my friendship group at school were all nerds and misfits so we didn't really seem to do this!

Yep yr6s become horrendous.

Usually it doesn’t start until after Christmas and then heightens right around SATs
(which I expect is one of the reasons)
Added pressure in school, not necessarily from school or parents, but they know it’s there. Add in they’re suddenly ‘too big’ for primary school and that many of them will have received mobile phones that Xmas….and boom they go from lovely yr5’s to overstimulated yr6’s.

There's definitely phones playing a part, they'd been looking at ladies in bikinis and nudes and God knows what else and trading them on the bus, my son used to sit behind them and saw what they were doing and told, they stopped for a few months and now they've stated up again 😒

Oh add in that right about now they’re taught sex ed, which basically prompts them to look. If they weren’t intrigued before it’ll give them a reason to 🙄

It’s not just yr6 boys, the girls are as bad, they just use claws and underhand comments as their offensive

It’s going to be a lot stronger than ladies in bikinis!

Year 6 girls can be awful as well. They've mentally grown out of primary school and are basically full of hormones and drama.

Omg don't, one of his fellow year 2s mentioned he saw his parents sexing and my son was very confused what he meant, I just sort of said sorry mate I've no idea what that means!

I think in some cases they can get a bit big fish in a small pond but thats no excuse to bully anyone
Most of them get a nasty shock when they start Secondary and become very small fish in a very big pond

The answer is yes, they think they are too cool for school and it is also completely normal for children who do well with structure to find it very unsettling because post SATs there is the school play and the normal timetable goes out the window. There is the school residential which in my children's school was June, the leavers' party at school which is an afternoon event, the leavers' party/prom outside of school usually held on the last day. There is a lot of silliness and giddy behaviour but some are just awful. The swagger walk becomes a thing.

I would definitely inform school of any upsetting behaviour, every time. Those boys are in for a massive shock when they get to secondary and the punishment isn't missing 5 minutes of your break time for bullying or messing around in class.

Yes, year 6 boys and often girls, are big fish in a small pond.

Then they become year 7 and everyone is bigger than them and everything is unfamiliar and they become children again for a while.

Yes My lovely DS can be an obnoxious arse - just to me though 🙄. And then when I go into school to drop DD off the year 6 girls are huddled in doorways looking at their phones. Phones are supposed to be handed in but many keep them and look at them in the loos or playground. Cue ridiculous TikTok videos. The year 6 teachers are clinging on. They’re ready to leave - year 6s not sure about the teachers 🤦🏿‍♀️. Not long now and then hopefully they’ll calm down in year 7🤞🏿

It’s been a while but I don’t remember them being awful. They were a lovely group and some 6 years on one mum (of girls and boys) is organising a reunion. I’m excited to see those kids as 18 year olds.

good luck OP. Perhaps I’ve just been lucky.

At this point in year six it's very common for primary school fatigue to set in, for both parents and children. As PP have said, they have outgrown it, plus the usual structure is out the window. Add to that parents who see the light at the end of the tunnel for getting shot of other parents and kids they haven't liked for nearly 7 years. I found the polite veneer started to slip there too.

In Scotland I think the equivalent is P7 and yes some of the boys and girls in my son's P7 year were absolutely horrible.

A small group of boys bullied all the other boys and took great enjoyment in bullying autistic children to the point they lashed out or went into meltdown. Unfortunately the head teacher was useless and did nothing about their behaviour. To make it worse their parents were friends and thought their kids were the angels and all the other 30 boys in the year were the problem 🤔. The boys covered up each others behaviour by coming up with lies together then telling their partners individually. They are all now in a different secondary school to my son and he was delighted to see the back of them. They are also still horrifically behaved boy's (stealing, fighting and covering up for each other etc) but their mum's still think they are angels.

The reality was most of the kids are lovely but the nasty ones ruin it for the rest. Tell the head teacher what is going on and that what they are doing your son is bullying him because he is autistic which is disability discrimination and the school need to deal with the bullies immediately. Put it all in writing and give the head teacher a date to respond by and state you want a written confirmation the boys behaviour has been addressed as it's unacceptable.

Eh? My male Y6 pupils are the most considerate, polite and thoughtful young boys imaginable. They are kind to each other as well as the younger children in our school, and are always thinking ahead, trying to find ways of helping us teachers and TAs. They're almost exclusively from families seeking asylum in the UK and have experienced considerable hardship and loss along the way, which is why I think they are so mature and self-aware. They're just beyond petty meanness and silliness. This is fairly standard for our school, but I know boys in DD's Y6 class last year were a bit more like you describe.

I would also say that current Y6 were the one starting school during Covid and along with current YR (born during Covid) they may not have been as well socialised as other groups.

Your son really needs to get out of the habit of telling on people re trivial stuff that doesn’t concern him like the porn/calling moonpig. A bunch of 11 year olds accessing porn isn’t great but is fairly normal done in a gang like that out of curiosity. Prank call again, not great but not really for your son to go telling the teacher.

your son will never get on in secondary school if he does this, I say this as someone autistic who was picked on. He will be labelled a grass and ostracised.

picking on his quirky stuff is unacceptable (and the sort of thing he’d be valid to tell the teacher about if it got out of hand) but in the case of telling on the kids for everything to the teacher, I can see why the boys are fed up of him.

Is your child year 2? In which case that’s even more serious and the Year 6s should be ashamed of themselves picking on a younger child.

is this only happening on the bus? The school need to be managing this better.

It depends really. Some are buttholes, some are lovely, some have their moments, especially these past two weeks.

By the sounds of it your son is much younger? Y2 ? Definitely contact the school about any unkind behaviours/bullying towards him.

Also, tell him to stay/sit away from them and not get involved in their stuff, unless they’re actually harming someone.

You think sex ed is the reason they are looking and inappropriate images on their phone? I don’t know when you last taught a PSHE lesson, but “how to google porn” isn’t on the curriculum.

I think they mean because sex ed shows naked women (and men) and the boys get the curiosity to look online and find porn.

Mine is certainly testing my nerves right now

We’re in a world surrounded my sexualised images with the ability to find more at our fingertips. I don’t think it’s the age-appropriate diagrams used in PSHE/science lessons that are making them curious.

I suppose but it’s around that age kids start to notice these things, who’s to say it didn’t come from seeing sex education videos that made them want to lookup sexual stuff.

Have you seen the yr6 sex ed curriculum? It’s not like when we were at school 🤣 it’s pretty in depth regarding sexual preferences/orgasms etc
Also it may not teach ‘how to google porn’ but for those not already aware what some of it means, googling at home may seem less embarrassing.

He tells on people as he's very honest about when people are upsetting him, I'd prefer he'd be like that rather than me as a child that never said boo to a goose!