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The semicolon is dead;long live the comma splice.

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cakeorwine · 18/05/2025 19:13

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/may/18/marked-decline-semicolon-use-english-books-study-suggests

Apparently fewer people are using semicolons nowadays, they prefer using commas in their sentences.

The comma splice is really annoying. Either use a full stop or a semicolon but don't use a comma when you don't need to.

Marked decline in semicolons in English books, study suggests

Usage of punctuation down almost half in two decades as further research finds 67% of British students rarely use it

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2025/may/18/marked-decline-semicolon-use-english-books-study-suggests

OP posts:
FloozingThePlot · 18/05/2025 21:09

9/10. I like a semi colon and a comma splice; both have their place.

brigidsexcitableaunt · 18/05/2025 21:15

To me statements spliced by a comma read like a train of thought with pauses...
That's what em-dashes are for. Alas, the ignorance of hyphens, en-dashes and em-dashes is so widespread that they're impossible to find in a lot of virtual keyboards.

Lassango · 18/05/2025 21:18

As long as people, roughly, understand what I am getting at, that will do me just fine,

Tassen · 18/05/2025 21:19

@Jamclag snap.
I think it was a 70/80s thing.

All I can remember being taught is what a noun is, what a verb is, what an adjective is, & that punctuation marks usually go inside the speech marks (unless the punctuation belongs to the rest of the sentence outside the quote.)

It wasn't until my first child had started school & came home with a SPaG explanation poster/handout then I realised how much I hadn't been taught!

It's really shocking!

newrubylane · 18/05/2025 21:39

10/10. I am an editor by trade though! Love a semicolon!

MsJJones · 18/05/2025 21:51

IButtleSir · 18/05/2025 20:42

I regret to inform you that comma splices are still alive and well in the writings of Year 6 children. I mention them almost daily.

This does not come as a surprise to me.

VeryQuaintIrene · 18/05/2025 22:04

10/10 for me. My college students are inveterate comma-splicers and it drives me potty.

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/05/2025 22:13

brigidsexcitableaunt · 18/05/2025 21:15

To me statements spliced by a comma read like a train of thought with pauses...
That's what em-dashes are for. Alas, the ignorance of hyphens, en-dashes and em-dashes is so widespread that they're impossible to find in a lot of virtual keyboards.

Huh. I thought em-dashes for pauses were a modern affectation - ironically, I thought it was happening because no one knows how to use semicolons.

(Yes that is a hyphen. My keyboard doesn't have a em-dash)

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/05/2025 22:17

I tend to use em-dashes - if I'm using them at all - to interrupt myself. So not quite a train of thought, which, unlike an interruption, can involve multiple statements.

ChandrilanDiscoDroid · 18/05/2025 22:22

OooPourUsACupLove · 18/05/2025 22:13

Huh. I thought em-dashes for pauses were a modern affectation - ironically, I thought it was happening because no one knows how to use semicolons.

(Yes that is a hyphen. My keyboard doesn't have a em-dash)

Edited

Emily Dickinson is spinning in her grave like a propeller blade right now.

cakeorwine · 18/05/2025 22:36

I have just learnt what an en dash is.

I thought it was a hyphen.

OP posts:
BellissimoGecko · 18/05/2025 22:48

10/10 here. Although one of the questions was dubious; using semicolons in lists is a valid choice.

i don’t know why more folk don’t use semicolons. I love them. In their place.

BellissimoGecko · 18/05/2025 22:49

In the UK we use spaced en dashes for parenthetical clauses or to signal an interruption in a sentence. Em dashes are generally used in US English.

LoserWinner · 18/05/2025 22:57

My daughter says I’m the only person she knows who uses semi-colons in text and WhatsApp messages.

MrsPlantagenet · 18/05/2025 22:58

LoserWinner · 18/05/2025 22:57

My daughter says I’m the only person she knows who uses semi-colons in text and WhatsApp messages.

My kids say the same to me!

Danglinglights · 18/05/2025 23:00

An appalling 7/10 here.

Not happy with myself.

merryhouse · 18/05/2025 23:10

omg. When I was taught colons and semi-colons (the only English grammar I was actually specifically taught) we were told that a colon replaced a full stop while a semi-colon replaced a comma.

The king is dead: long live the king.
The king is dead; but there's a new one.

I know this hasn't been taught since at least the early nineties, and I'd made my peace with that; but I'm steadfastly resisting the idea of separating two full sentences with a comma.

merryhouse · 18/05/2025 23:11

BellissimoGecko · 18/05/2025 22:49

In the UK we use spaced en dashes for parenthetical clauses or to signal an interruption in a sentence. Em dashes are generally used in US English.

oh, is that true? I thought it was just me who keeps getting annoyed with Word and really needs to change the AutoFormat options...

DuesToTheDirt · 18/05/2025 23:13

@merryhouse your teacher was just wrong. (I'm older than you BTW).

ChickenEggChicken · 18/05/2025 23:15

10/10. And they will prise my semi-colons from my cold, dead hands.

midlandsmummy123 · 18/05/2025 23:19

I have failed the semi-colon test (pretend Stephen He is shouting) but surely as the English language changes so can our use of the semi-colon. I may be on board for a petition in aid of the Oxford comma.

PickAChew · 18/05/2025 23:25

8/10, despite an 80s education. I am guilty of littering sentences with commas and often just end up annoyed with the lot of them and going back and deleting them all. Semicolons are for coding 😂

queenofthesuburbs · 18/05/2025 23:26

10 out of 10

Love a semicolon!

FalseSpring · 18/05/2025 23:37

10/10 I'm pleased to say.

autistickie · 18/05/2025 23:46

Semicolons are one of the most important pieces of punctuation to me, both as a writer and for general communication. I genuinely can’t imagine writing without them; it would be a syntactic bloodbath!