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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 14:45

Newbutoldfather · 18/05/2025 14:42

It was marijuana, not heroin.

People are remarkably unsympathetic to drug mules, but they are genuinely thick and desperate for money. Many are addicts or in debt.

And the reality is drugs smuggled through airports are a tiny amount of the total. Tons of the stuff comes in through the post, overland on large lorries and directly on large ships.

I am not saying they should not be punished but the punishments seem harsh and it seems to be going after easy targets to be seen to be doing something rather than tackling the large smuggling operations or the demand.

That’s true, but the rules and punishments are clearly known! Teach your children to be sensible and to follow the law.
The social media of this woman paint a very different story than thet of a vulnerable drug addict!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/05/2025 14:45

Westfacing · 18/05/2025 08:25

I have some sympathy as she's only 18.

I do wish girls and young women would cease with all this posing and pouting and uploading selfie-videos in nothing more than their underwear.

I do think TikTok, influencers, reality TV, etc that promote physical beauty, and possessions beyond the means of ordinary people, dulls the brain and leads young people into a sort of cloud-cuckoo land where they can't grasp what real life is all about.

Ditto to all that, x 100. Sodding social media have a lot to answer for.

Potsandpotts · 18/05/2025 14:47

whitewineandsun · 18/05/2025 09:57

'Poor little white girl" - I guess.

😴

Redflamingos · 18/05/2025 14:48

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 18/05/2025 14:45

Ditto to all that, x 100. Sodding social media have a lot to answer for.

Parents have a lot to answer too imo

YYURYYUCICYYUR4ME · 18/05/2025 14:49

No, due to social media posts

InterIgnis · 18/05/2025 14:52
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No. Play stupid games, win stupid prices.

Threeboystwocatsandadog · 18/05/2025 14:52

I have a lot of sympathy with her. 18 year olds are adults in name only. I have one myself and they still do daft things occasionally. However, I do believe you have to obey the laws of the country you are in. I would not be happy if someone came to the UK, broke our laws and got off lightly because it was acceptable where they came from. She knew what she was doing was wrong before she did it and she made the choice to carry on despite knowing that she would be in a lot of trouble if she was caught. It’s a really difficult situation and I do hope they show some leniency when sentencing her.

Smleps · 18/05/2025 14:54

None whatsoever. She deserves all she gets.

Uricon2 · 18/05/2025 15:04

KvotheTheBloodless · 18/05/2025 14:45

Poor kid, she's obviously not very bright and has made a couple of daft mistakes. Her poor family, they must be beside themselves. I do hope she can serve her sentence in the UK.

Knowingly carting multiple kilos of drugs between countries is not a "daft mistake".

PinkiOcelot · 18/05/2025 15:04

OneOliveZebra · 18/05/2025 08:04

Shes young, everyone did stupid things when they were young

I might have done stupid things when I was young, but smuggling drugs was not one of them.
She knew exactly what she was doing with her tik tok posts about Bonny and Clyde and photos of wads of cash!

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 15:05

CandidHedgehog · 18/05/2025 13:47

In which country? Cannabis (Class B drug) is still illegal for personal use in the UK.

Cocaine is a Class A drug and possession is absolutely still a criminal offence.

I said it was allowed for own use, legal wasn't mentioned. No one gets done for a small amount. Driving under the influence, yes. You could also get that charge for prescription drugs if they impair driving.

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 18/05/2025 15:15

OneOliveZebra · 18/05/2025 08:04

Shes young, everyone did stupid things when they were young

Not that bloody stupid though!

Lordlaughaloud · 18/05/2025 15:18

Threeboystwocatsandadog · 18/05/2025 14:52

I have a lot of sympathy with her. 18 year olds are adults in name only. I have one myself and they still do daft things occasionally. However, I do believe you have to obey the laws of the country you are in. I would not be happy if someone came to the UK, broke our laws and got off lightly because it was acceptable where they came from. She knew what she was doing was wrong before she did it and she made the choice to carry on despite knowing that she would be in a lot of trouble if she was caught. It’s a really difficult situation and I do hope they show some leniency when sentencing her.

Tbf drug smuggling isn’t acceptable where she’s from either as she’s from the UK. I don’t know what the punishment would be but she wouldn’t have got off lightly here either. At least I hope not!

I’d have more sympathy if it was like a college student from California (where it’s legal) who took, for example, a small amount of cannabis for personal possession into a country which had zero tolerance and they were now facing a massive sentence.

Given she’s from the UK she should know what she did is massively serious. Any child would know that let alone an older teen.

CountryQueen · 18/05/2025 15:21

You can tell who has seen her social media and who hasn’t

WellDoneThatSupremeCourt · 18/05/2025 15:21

OneOliveZebra · 18/05/2025 08:04

Shes young, everyone did stupid things when they were young

Don't you know the difference between stupid and criminal?

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 15:22

Potsandpotts · 18/05/2025 13:33

I feel sorry for her. She probably has a history of being erratic. I suspect she is not NT. Her poor family.

Oh FGS. Seems it's not ND that's the epidemic, but those believing it.
Do you know, that as it's such a money maker, the scope for diagnosis widens all the time to accommodate more. It's said that within a few years every single person will qualify.
Categories of mental illness have already increased fourfold since the 1950s.

Lordlaughaloud · 18/05/2025 15:23

Yeah I’m quite perplexed at the amount of people calling planned drug smuggling a daft or stupid mistake.

A daft mistake was me at 17 flying by myself for the first time who took someone’s luggage onto the plane for them as they had too much carry on. Imagine if they’ve been carrying drugs 🤦🏽‍♀️😂 but that was genuine naivety and trying to help someone who asked for a favour , it wasn’t done for any financial gain and as far as I know there was no drugs in it 😂wouldn’t do it again!

No way would I have intentionally smuggled drugs anywhere. The idea that at 18 you don’t realise the gravity of this is absurd.

MumCanIHaveASnackPlease · 18/05/2025 15:23

Absolutely no sympathy because this is not her first rodeo. In posts in her instagram that have since been deleted she was posting wads of cash and bragging about it.

I would have sympathy if she had in some way been intimated or forced in to it but she hadn’t been. She knew what she was doing and she’d done it multiple times before.

MichaelandKirk · 18/05/2025 15:36

KvotheTheBloodless · 18/05/2025 14:45

Poor kid, she's obviously not very bright and has made a couple of daft mistakes. Her poor family, they must be beside themselves. I do hope she can serve her sentence in the UK.

FGS - she knew what she was doing. I hope they throw the book at her. It wasn’t a daft mistake she made. Her mistake in her eyes was being caught.

MrsMappFlint · 18/05/2025 15:36

Potsandpotts · 18/05/2025 14:04

Ah, I see, we're now treating a casual comment like 'I suspect she’s not neurotypical' as an official clinical diagnosis.

If that’s the standard, half of Mumsnet should be billing for private assessments. 😂

But just to reassure you, no professionals were harmed, or even consulted in the making of my post. It was, quite clearly, an opinion. An opinion based on the neurotypical youngsters I have met.

You’re of course welcome to disagree, but pretending it was masquerading as a formal diagnosis is a bit of a stretch, even for MN drama.

Butt, unlike these NT youngsters you have met, you haven't met her or have you?

So why bother saying you think she is not NT when you don't know her from a hole in the ground?

I can see you're a bit embarrassed about having put forth this casual diagnosis and wish to distance yourself from it and that's ok. We've all said silly things we wish we hadn't.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 15:37

Threeboystwocatsandadog · 18/05/2025 14:52

I have a lot of sympathy with her. 18 year olds are adults in name only. I have one myself and they still do daft things occasionally. However, I do believe you have to obey the laws of the country you are in. I would not be happy if someone came to the UK, broke our laws and got off lightly because it was acceptable where they came from. She knew what she was doing was wrong before she did it and she made the choice to carry on despite knowing that she would be in a lot of trouble if she was caught. It’s a really difficult situation and I do hope they show some leniency when sentencing her.

They are not adults "in name only". They are legally adults. Mine went to university at 18 in strange cities, and, like thousands of students every year, managed perfectly well.
I think it's important to stop infantilising this woman, and other young adults.

AnonAnonmystery · 18/05/2025 15:37

Above all she’s someone’s daughter, sister friend and she is human (and very nieve).

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 15:38

AnonAnonmystery · 18/05/2025 15:37

Above all she’s someone’s daughter, sister friend and she is human (and very nieve).

Yes, she's also been caught engaged in criminal activity.

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 15:40

Potsandpotts · 18/05/2025 14:04

Ah, I see, we're now treating a casual comment like 'I suspect she’s not neurotypical' as an official clinical diagnosis.

If that’s the standard, half of Mumsnet should be billing for private assessments. 😂

But just to reassure you, no professionals were harmed, or even consulted in the making of my post. It was, quite clearly, an opinion. An opinion based on the neurotypical youngsters I have met.

You’re of course welcome to disagree, but pretending it was masquerading as a formal diagnosis is a bit of a stretch, even for MN drama.

People are obsessed with the mental state of others. I daresay that card will be played in her defence.

mydogisthebest · 18/05/2025 15:43

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 15:37

They are not adults "in name only". They are legally adults. Mine went to university at 18 in strange cities, and, like thousands of students every year, managed perfectly well.
I think it's important to stop infantilising this woman, and other young adults.

Exactly. All this rubbish about 18 is not an adult blah blah blah. As I said before, my parents started working at 14. Had to take responsibility to find a job, get up on time, get to work etc etc.

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