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Any sympathy for the British drug mule in Georgia?

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mids2019 · 18/05/2025 07:55

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

I was reading about this girl and actually do have a little symapthy. She is obviously vain, stupid, misguidedly ambitious but I don't know whether she is real player in the drug trade and has probably been groomed into carrying drugs by men promising her the earth.

The penalties for drug smuggling are understandably harsh on Georgia but should the UK try and get her to serve a sentence in the UK?

Drug arrest girl 'in China scam to foil Amazon ban'

Culley, 18, is said to have received £550 in return for her passport information, which was then used to open a business account on the digital marketplace.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14723481/drug-mule-suspect-company-director-Chinese-retailers-Amazon.html

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DelboytrottersDnecklace · 18/05/2025 11:43

Zero sympathy for her,some for her family

She knew what she was doing-she plastered it all over sm

She knew the risks but never thought it would happen to her

At that age,we think we are invincible (I know I did)

At her age I did some bloody stupid stuff but I didn't deal/smuggle drugs

She did the crime,so must do the time

My own kids have been her age and if I'm honest,one of them at her age might have been daft/greedy enough if I hadn't stepped in before hand and had a strong word before he set off

He immediately said he wasn't that stupid and he never did-he told me some story years later about how he was offered 'once or twice' but didn't do it as the risk was too high

She got greedy and liked the lifestyle

TheCatsTongue · 18/05/2025 11:44

These cases are those that the media loves to paint the perpetrator as a victim in a foreign country and hides the truth and the background of the individuals (and then BBC moans that there is a lack of trust!).

It reminds me of the Jay Slatter situation and what was really going on.

Fifthtimelucky · 18/05/2025 11:44

UnsolvedMysteriesRobertStack · 18/05/2025 09:39

She’s 3 years older than Shamima Begum was. Do the people claiming that she is “just a child” feel the same way for Shamima?

I have a lot more sympathy for Shamima Begum than I do for this woman.

First, because of their respective ages and second because SB was doing something she believed in (however misguided) rather than being motivated by personal greed and a flashy lifestyle.

I absolutely do not condone what SB did but I think she has been very harshly treated, both by the Government and the media.

HunnyPot · 18/05/2025 11:46

Nope! Lock her up. She deserves to be prosecuted as far as the law allows.

HonoraBridge · 18/05/2025 11:50

No sympathy.

Sheknowsaboutme · 18/05/2025 11:52

Throw the book at her then throw away the keys. She knew what she was up to and that other pouty prick thats been caught. Zero morals and zero respect to their families.

fucking stupid.

Superhansrantowindsor · 18/05/2025 11:54

People need to wake up to the absolute carnage caused around the world and in the UK because of drugs. Children in this country are being groomed, abused and exploited by county lines gangs. If you are a casual drug user you are a part of this and need to own it.
Her social media posts are pretty awful. She knew what she was doing. No sympathy at all.

BeNiceWhenItsFinished · 18/05/2025 11:54

We all do stupid things at that age. We don't all do illegal things.

She smuggled a huge quantity of drugs and got caught. Oh well. That's what happens when you are a drug smuggler.

As for how she got involved in becoming a director for a Chinese import company... well. 🤔 They really saw her coming, didn't they? Some people will do anything for money, and it seems she's one of them.

Vitrolinsanity · 18/05/2025 11:56

I think it’s entirely possible to find her crime despicable and yet feel sympathy for the future she has gambled away for the sake of what amount to trinkets. She’ll have a long time to consider that as she counts away her 20’s and 30’s.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 18/05/2025 12:00

Littlelambsy · 18/05/2025 08:54

Obviously a very stupid thing to do (if it was her choice). I don’t personally think she should be locked up for years though, as she isn’t a violent criminal, although I know people love to see ‘punishment’ carried through. It’s also a waste of a life, at 18. :( sad.

With respect, if your 15 year old were addicted to drugs that they had been sold outside the school playground for the last 4 years, or your 9 year old died of an overdose of the new "cool" drug on the streets, you might think somewhat differently. Drugs harm and kill people just as certainly, and in greater numbers, than violence does.

Nearly 15,000 aged 17 and under are treated for substance misuse annually, and use of illegal substances account for the vast majority of them. That's just in England. Coming from a "nice" home is no protection against your child being drawn into this world, nor should it be a protection if you decide to profit from it.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 18/05/2025 12:00

I’ll extend some pity her way but save my sympathy for the families dealing with the death of loved ones who have taken the drugs that people like her traffic around the world.

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 12:01

User7171 · 18/05/2025 11:23

This sort of bullshit being trotted out is exactly why we see so many pathetic parents making up excuses for why their fuckwit offspring stabbed someone to death, or drove like an idiot and crashed a car killing their friends, etc. etc.

Absolving 18yo adults of their responsibility to not commit serious crimes 'because young' is beyond ridiculous.

Agree, but starts earlier than that. Mum going into school, telling the teacher that detention is unfair.
Dad in a police station saying his kid would never fire a catapult at swans.

MrsMappFlint · 18/05/2025 12:01

I think most of us realise that drugs are a very big reason indeed for a lot of the shit in today's society.

I would love to see those involved in selling, buying pushing or smuggling hit with long jail sentences: every last one of them from the bottom to the top.

Granted, they won't get many at the top but start where you can and allow the message to filter through.

Sentences starting at 10 years-never mind no room in prisons-build more: the drugsters can be the labourers-that will keep costs down.

I have seen the harm that drugs can do and I have absolutely no sympathy-I don't care why they did it-even if they were threatened (which doesn't happen as often as you might think) by doing it, they have ruined someone else's life and taken another brick out of society.

In this particular case, this young woman may be stupid-I don't know-but the day we start accepting stupidity as a defence is the day we close the courts and throw open the prisons. She has been raised to believe that in this country any old shite will act as a defence and now she is about to discover that it won't wash elsewhere.

If she has a decent defence, let her present it and if she hasn't she's in that canoe with only one paddle.

Toddlerteaplease · 18/05/2025 12:02

Nope none.

TheCatsTongue · 18/05/2025 12:05

In many respects the argument around drugs is moot.

She decided to knowingly break the law in a number of countries, by smuggling something that those countries have declared is illegal.

Brits some to have an issue with respecting the laws of other countries and then the media starts to behave like other countries are primitive for such laws.

MissFenellaPrism · 18/05/2025 12:05

PhilippaGeorgiou · 18/05/2025 12:00

With respect, if your 15 year old were addicted to drugs that they had been sold outside the school playground for the last 4 years, or your 9 year old died of an overdose of the new "cool" drug on the streets, you might think somewhat differently. Drugs harm and kill people just as certainly, and in greater numbers, than violence does.

Nearly 15,000 aged 17 and under are treated for substance misuse annually, and use of illegal substances account for the vast majority of them. That's just in England. Coming from a "nice" home is no protection against your child being drawn into this world, nor should it be a protection if you decide to profit from it.

Excellent points 👍

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 12:10

Nice of the Mail to drag in a company that she no longer works for and only did a Summer stint with. I'm sure she had other photos rather than all the ones in her old uniform.

Neither idiots deserve sympathy, they're both vain, shallow and led by money.

MrsMappFlint · 18/05/2025 12:10

OneBadKitty · 18/05/2025 10:39

Actually, it's known that the brain does not reach full cognitive functioning until at least age 25, which is why teens are much more likely to take risks. They may be legally an adult, and of course most don't take huge risks which land them in prison or dead, but they are all still developing. My own DD is very independent and sensible at 19 compared to many, but she definitely acts as if she's invincible and often needs support and advice from older adults at times to help her make more measured decisions; she often does things which leave my old cautious heart in my mouth, but it's part of the learning curve!

Well then, no-one should be allowed to vote, marry, drink, sign a contract, or drive until they are 25 or is it only when facing the consequences of their actions that they should be regarded as not responsible?

anyolddinosaur · 18/05/2025 12:11

Very little sympathy - but yes, I think there should be an attempt to get her transferred to a British prison.

PiggyPigalle · 18/05/2025 12:12

If her parents didn't know, then they were turning a blind eye to her lifestyle.

That bit of parenting is one of the easiest. If your child has money, but doesn't have a job, ask why, how and where it came from.

To those who say "but she's 18, not a kid". She's a kid now she needs her parents. She's also had this lifestyle for some time, so was quite likely to have been under 18 when she started travelling and posing.

OneFunBrickNewt · 18/05/2025 12:12

Sympathy possibly, but not because she is British or a girl. She's also an idiot, who merits the same puhnishment as a local person would receive. Why should she serve her sentence in the UK?

ERthree · 18/05/2025 12:14

She is an adult. She also knows the drug trade is illegal and immoral. So no i don't have an ounce of sympathy for her.

LondonJax · 18/05/2025 12:15

TheGrimSmile · 18/05/2025 08:43

I don't know the full story as I'm not reading any Daily Mail links. But she was 18?! Christ, she's still a bloody child. You don't suddenly turn into fully mature adult on the day you turn 18. Just because an 18 year old knows the law, doesn't mean they have developed enough to fully understand the reality of that. 18 year old do stupid things all the time. They are still learning. That poor girl and her poor family.

I'll save my sympathy for those kids who get hooked on drugs because people like this young woman blatantly take drugs on walk about for smugglers.

She was caught with 14kg of drugs. That's not a teeny packet that someone hid in her luggage.

That's just under two thirds of the weight you're allowed to carry in hold luggage (23kg)! It's more than she could usually carry as cabin or carry on luggage (usually about 10 - 12kg) That means the vast majority of the bag she had was taken up with drugs. 12kg of that was cannabis. That's 12,000 joints!

And if she's still a child then I'm in trouble...our 18 year old is off to university this year. Fending for himself in a halls of residence. All on his own. I didn't think you could leave a child on their own for more than a short period of time or it was neglect. There are a lot of us neglecting our kids by sending them off to look after themselves.

Or maybe...we send them off to uni at 18 because, umm, they're adults now?

skyeisthelimit · 18/05/2025 12:15

No sympathy at all. she is 18, she knew what she was doing.

A quick google would have shown her the penalties for being caught drug smuggling in that country. Her social media flaunted her lifestyle.

DD is 17 and she knows it is illegal and very wrong to smuggle drugs.

Untery · 18/05/2025 12:16

It seems like she has been fairly lucky to be caught in Georgia. I think other neighbouring countries could have had much worse penalties including death sentence.