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Man jailed for 1986 murder has conviction quashed

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SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 15:04

Let's hope any compensation he gets isn't swallowed up by his charges for board and lodging.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce809e3gd1xo

A black-and-white police mugshot of Peter Sullivan, taken in 1986. In the photograph he has black bushy hair and is wearing a woolly coat.

Peter Sullivan: Man jailed for 1986 murder has conviction quashed

Peter Sullivan, 68, sobbed as he was told he would be released after advances in forensic technology.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce809e3gd1xo

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sprigatito · 13/05/2025 15:06

Forty fucking years. I can’t even imagine. I hope there will be a proper investigation into how this happened.

Missywelliot · 13/05/2025 15:11

I thought the same. He needs massive compensation and a fully paid for home to spend the rest of his life in. And probably a lot of therapy.

spoonbillstretford · 13/05/2025 15:15

And I wonder how many women have been raped and or murdered by the person who actually did it? It won't be someone already in jail if the DNA isn't on the database.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 13/05/2025 15:15

This is just awful. That poor man, and his poor family.

And meanwhile, the real killer has been walking free for all these years so there has been no justice for the victim and her family either.

No amount of compensation can give this man his life back.

CwmYoy · 13/05/2025 15:17

I hope there are consequences for the dishonest cops involved.

tripleginandtonic · 13/05/2025 15:18

Very dignified responses from everyone involved. Thank goodness for advances in DNA testing. Horrendous that the real murderer has got away with it, presumably it does nt match with any sex offenders that are on the police DNA base.

SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 15:29

CwmYoy · 13/05/2025 15:17

I hope there are consequences for the dishonest cops involved.

Hopefully promotion a nice pension, and if they are lucky some sort of award.

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SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 15:31

Missywelliot · 13/05/2025 15:11

I thought the same. He needs massive compensation and a fully paid for home to spend the rest of his life in. And probably a lot of therapy.

Luckily "we" changed the law a while back to ensure that wrongful convictions don't require automatic compensation.

I am quite sure he will be permitted to have therapy, if he can pay for it.

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SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 15:33

spoonbillstretford · 13/05/2025 15:15

And I wonder how many women have been raped and or murdered by the person who actually did it? It won't be someone already in jail if the DNA isn't on the database.

Edited

Shhhh - you'll upset the rather dim death penalty supporters. They never seem to be able to grasp that hanging one innocent man leaves the guilty free to carry on. Just ask any of Christies victims after Evans was executed.

You are of course completely right. All society suffers from a miscarriage of justice

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nahthatsnotforme · 13/05/2025 15:37

Just been reading about this. Tragic beyond words. The horror of being locked up for something you didn’t do, no one believing you. For his family the desperation and heartbreak. I just can’t get my head round it.

poor poor man

deeahgwitch · 13/05/2025 15:39

“…Luckily “we” changed the law a while back to ensure that wrongful convictions don’t require automatic compensation……..”

You are kidding @SerendipityJane

user0707106 · 13/05/2025 15:40

And this is exactly why I think the death penalty should never be reintroduced.

Imagine walking to the gallows knowing you aren’t guilty and nobody can help you.

CurlyFlies · 13/05/2025 15:42

user0707106 · 13/05/2025 15:40

And this is exactly why I think the death penalty should never be reintroduced.

Imagine walking to the gallows knowing you aren’t guilty and nobody can help you.

I agree

MissMoneyFairy · 13/05/2025 15:54

Poor man, how can you ever get over something like this., no doubt the police have all retired and are living the good life. I hope he gets the support, housing, finances and compensation that he deserves.

Clafoutie · 13/05/2025 16:17

Just unimaginable. I am so struck by the graciousness of both his own and his family’s words, and how they put Diane Sindall centre stage.

SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 16:19

deeahgwitch · 13/05/2025 15:39

“…Luckily “we” changed the law a while back to ensure that wrongful convictions don’t require automatic compensation……..”

You are kidding @SerendipityJane

Quote

R (on the application of Adams) v Secretary of State for Justice
[2014] UKSC 17, [2014] 1 AC 986

Summary of the Case:

This UK Supreme Court ruling clarified the meaning of a "miscarriage of justice" under Section 133 of the Criminal Justice Act 1988, which governs compensation for wrongful convictions.

The court held that a person is only eligible for compensation if they can demonstrate that a new or newly discovered fact shows beyond reasonable doubt that they did not commit the offence.

In other words, it is not enough for a conviction to be overturned — the applicant must prove their factual innocence.

endquote

So by inverting the entire premise of justice - requiring the accused to prove their innocence, not the prosecution to prove their guilt - very few people wrongfully imprisoned are liable for compensation.

It's a thin end of the wedge. If you start compensating innocent criminals, how long before you start compensating guilty ones.

(No, I won't).

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NorfolkandBad · 13/05/2025 16:55

I passed very close to the scene of Diane's murder, around the time (within 10-20 minutes) she was being murdered, as I walked home with my BF at the time - that memory still lives with me and makes me wonder if we'd walked a different route home - we had 2 choices at the junction of Borough Road / Whetstone Lane - then maybe we would have disturbed the murderer - we went up Whetstone Lane, she was murdered just off Borough Road, literally 50 yards from the junction.

PandoraSocks · 13/05/2025 17:00

The court held that a person is only eligible for compensation if they can demonstrate that a new or newly discovered fact shows beyond reasonable doubt that they did not commit the offence

Hopefully the DNA evidence is deemed to do that?

The poor man. The horror he must have gone through. What a dignified statement he gave.

SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 17:13

PandoraSocks · 13/05/2025 17:00

The court held that a person is only eligible for compensation if they can demonstrate that a new or newly discovered fact shows beyond reasonable doubt that they did not commit the offence

Hopefully the DNA evidence is deemed to do that?

The poor man. The horror he must have gone through. What a dignified statement he gave.

Generally the whole point is that new evidence doesn't count for compensation.

The ruling effectively says that a wrong verdict isn't necessarily a miscarriage of justice.

Remember that very few of us are clever enough to be lawyers. And even less of us are clever enough to be MP. And after that even less of us are clever enough to be Supreme Court justices.

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OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 13/05/2025 17:27

I heard this on the car radio and thought - he is a pensioner now.

My second thought was - and he won't be eligible for a full state pension as he won't have been paying National Insurance contributions.
so of course he will be eligible I suppose for Pension Credit.

having noticed this thread, I then thought to myself - he won't have a private pension either.

No compensation will ever ' compensate ' for these years he has been in prison.
but the compensation should at a minimum be 38 years worth of a ' decent ' salary so at a rough guess a minimum of £1.5m ?

EleanorReally · 13/05/2025 17:30

shocking that he has to pay his board

SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 18:04

No compensation will ever ' compensate ' for these years he has been in prison.

Which at least makes no compensation honest.

but the compensation should at a minimum be 38 years worth of a ' decent ' salary so at a rough guess a minimum of £1.5m ?

I believe the Supreme Court determined that no matter how grave the penalties, there is a cap if £1,000,000 for any compensation if it's awarded. Which would work out at £26k a year.

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SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 18:07

EleanorReally · 13/05/2025 17:30

shocking that he has to pay his board

Especially if he isn't awarded compensation ...

To be fair, and avoid charges of hyperbole, the requirement for wrongly imprisoned victims to repay board and lodging was scrapped when people realised it wasn't the sick joke I had been saying it was for 3 decades since the Guildford and Birmingham cases in the 90s.

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SerendipityJane · 13/05/2025 18:27

I am guessing the reason this further article also swerves the word "compensation" is because there won't be any.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rej5jv626o

A court sketch shows a grey-haired Mr Sullivan's shocked reaction on screen. He is wearing a white shirt and has his hand raised to his mouth

Why was Peter Sullivan not freed earlier?

The extraordinary injustice experienced by the 68-year-old trigger questions over the appeals system.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8rej5jv626o

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itsgettingweird · 13/05/2025 19:34

spoonbillstretford · 13/05/2025 15:15

And I wonder how many women have been raped and or murdered by the person who actually did it? It won't be someone already in jail if the DNA isn't on the database.

Edited

That’s a good point I hadn’t considered.

when the wrong person is locked up it must give the actual perpetrator more feeling of power.