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Struggling with parenting DD14 who is AuADHD

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Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 08:14

DD was diagnosed a year ago but symptoms were there from early childhood, starting getting progressively more visible and worse since the age of 7. I had no idea, just thought she was highly sensitive and difficult and made adjustments for her without realising, eg getting to parties 15 mins early rather than when in full swing, which would cause a meltdown, not changing routines or plans as would cause a meltdown etc. Many more examples but not really the point of this post!

She is now 14, and the ADHD side is very difficult to manage. Her room is very dirty and messy. She has broken the family laptop in there as well as dishes.
Currently she is obsessed with an anime TV series. Trying to get her to do homework before she starts watching TV is very hard. Think she is lying to me when she says she is doing homework.

I’m in the office three days a week, husband is at home but, quite frankly, fucking useless. He is also ADHD and just cannot stick to routine or help her manage her time. He can barely manage is own. Again, that’s another thread.

It’s very difficult to have a rational conversation with her or to come to an agreement eg, 1.5 hours homework then 1 hour TV. She reacts badly to any sort of conversation about how she is doing things, gets upset, feels bullied, cries, storms out of the room. She’s very resistant to trying new ways of doing things. She doesn’t want to be helped or managed by me but equally wants to well at school so was still doing homework last night at 9.45 that was due today.

This morning she was crying and said she felt sick, didn’t want to go to school, huge bags under her eyes. I’ve sent her in, she’s obviously tired and god knows what time she went to bed. I normally take devices from her overnight but last night I was too tired and went to bed at 9.45 myself. So I'm guessing she stayed up and watched tv and is now too tired for school.

When she was given her phone or is on the family computer, husband was supposed to set up limits and check phones. I don’t think he has done this properly and he has no idea if and when she is doing homework. I’ll have to take over on managing this.

My question is: how do I talk to her without it becoming an argument? Or do I just accept this is going to be the outcome and proceed anyway?

Husband is keen to put her on medication but I’d really like to research this a bit more rather than just chucking tablets at her. I have seen how quickly she forms habits eg even with Piriton - she will take it every day whether she needs it or not.

She has also talked about drugs and alcohol in a way that I find concerning, I feel she is very likely to experiment and my worry is she wouldn’t know when to stop. She forms new habits very quickly. (I’m no angel and have a colourful past, so definitely not naive about drugs/alcohol and what kids get up to).

I’ve seen her speak to her friends in a way that is upsetting for the friends, she has no idea that she has made them uncomfortable. I worry about her social skills. Is there any sort of support I can get for her with this? She gets very easily embarrassed if she feels criticised so even if I try to talk to her about it sensitively and I an. Non-accusatory way after her friends are gone, she will cry and leave the room.

She can be pleasant but most of the time she is grumpy and easily upset. She won’t let me buy her new shoes (current school shoes are literally falling apart and too small), most of her clothes are too small but she won’t let me get her new things.

I’m really struggling with looking after her properly. I appreciate that a lot of this is just normal teenage behaviour but the AuAdhd aspect does make things so much more difficult.

I’d really appreciate any advice about parenting AuAdhd teens. I’m going to sign up for the Cygnet course but that seems to be more for autism and I think right now it’s the ADHD that’s causing the issues.

Or if you’ve done the Cygnet course, was it useful?

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duvet · 09/05/2025 10:09

I recommend the book managing screen time by Noel Janis Norton. I have a v. Similar older teen & wish I'd read this earlier. You can also get TP-Link which restricts WiFi access on devices at certain times. Read up on Rejection Sensitivity, this is hard to deal with for child & parent. I find writing/ texting clear boundaries helpful too.

Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 14:02

@duvet, wow, yes rejection sensitivity describes her perfectly, thank you, I'll read up on this more. And thanks for the book, I've ordered!

I have noticed that talking to her when I am doing something else, eg cooking, works well. She hates direct face-to-face conversations. Text might even work better, I will have a go at that, thanks for all your suggestions.

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Krest · 09/05/2025 14:56

Hi Op,

I could easily write a similar post. My DD is 16 and only recently diagnosed with both ADHD/Autism.

Its been a struggle. For us, I found primary school fairly easy, DD did struggle socially but aside from that no major problems.

She entered Year 7 in the middle of lockdown, and ever since its been a nightmare.

Issues we have :

  1. Hygiene battles - difficult to make her shower on a daily basis and doesnt care if she wears the same kickers every day etc. Constant battles there. Same with brushing teeth, have to nag and nag.
  2. I take devices at bed but there have been a couple of times I did forget and of course she was on it all night.
  3. Obsessed with things quickly where she will priorities whatever that is over very important things like homework or revision.
  4. Meltdowns when I talk to her about anything that appears critical or she deems that I am judging her.
  5. Poor choices when it comes to friends - will do anything just to get their approval even if that means getting in trouble,
  6. Very insecure
  7. Issues with self harm
  8. Issues with vaping and also am sure she has smoked weed before.
  9. She has stolen my wine from the fridge before and replaced/topped it up with water to try and hide it.

List could go on. Medication is difficult as DD is unable to take pills. (she has tried her best but says it feels like she is choking). So thats tricky trying to find a liquid medication.

Its hard especially socially, she doesnt have many friends esp of her own age.

What has helped is putting her in clubs I know she enjoys (ie choir, drama, dancing, Guides). Keeping her busy helps.

Taking phone at bedtime, I do this at weekends too as my DD is just unable to not feel the need to be up all night otherwise and self manage. Hopefully soon that may change.

Could autism or adhd based therapy be something to try?

I will say as a glimmer of hope things have slightly improved with the hygiene in that she is starting to realise for herself (after years of me telling her) that smelling nice helps socially.

I also know with mine that as much as she pushes everything I say away and dismisses and argues with me, it does sometimes plant a seed and she reflects on it later even if she will never admit it.

Your local council might be able to point you in the direction of courses to help you. Mine do.

Good luck OP, I know it is really hard and I have been dealing with this by myself and raising a teen in these circumstances has been the hardest thing i have ever had to do.

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Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 20:58

Thanks for your post, @Krest, that sounds so difficult. There is so much that resonates with me, I’m sorry you’ve had such a hard time as well.

We’ve also had issues around hygiene, she is now fairly good with showering regularly but often has very greasy hair.
Also lots of issues around procrastination and obsession, and that obsession takes over everything. I had an interesting conversation with her recently where we went through all the obsessions she’s had since being a young child, she finds it quite amusing but this current one is taking up so much of her time.

And the rest of your post sounds so worrying, the difficult thing is that they are still so immature and then making bad decisions on top of that. It’s difficult to know which behaviour they will grow out of as they mature and which behaviour is due to the ND. I hope things improve for her, and for you.

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Dreichweather · 09/05/2025 21:02

Your child is struggling and there is medication which can help her.

What have you tried so far? How clued up are you and DH on supporting someone with ND?

What helps her regulate? Are you supporting her to do those things?

For her room, have you tried ‘body doubling’, even doing half the tasks for her to make it more managable.

Can she go to hmk club at school?

Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 21:18

We haven’t tried any medication yet, I’m speaking to the psychiatrist who diagnosed her. I don’t know much about it yet and need to do some reading up on this so I know what it is we are giving her.

How clued up are we? Well, I think we have subconsciously put in a lot of adjustments for her, for example avoiding noisy places as she didn’t do well in them, having a routine that worked for her. We’ve always had a child-let approach to parenting. But we could definitely be more informed. I’m signing up to the Barnado’s Cygnet programme.

My husband is not much help, he has ADHD and struggles to himself with a lot of the same issues. So it’s pretty much left to me to manage her. The times I have left him in charge have ended up being pretty chaotic- for example, regular mealtimes with healthy food makes a huge difference to her, I suppose because the routine is familiar and comforting. If I’m not around, mealtimes are erratic and it will always be unhealthy food.

I’ve suggested body-doubling but she doesn’t want to do it. Homework club sounds like a good idea though, I will look into that, thank you.

Today after school was… ok. I made her favourite snack for her and told her I needed to talk to her in 30 minutes. So the chat wasn’t a surprise and said I would be monitoring device use all weekend. She would have time for homework and time to watch her programmes but homework first. Of course she got upset with me for ruining her weekend but at least it won’t be a surprise now when I repeat this tomorrow.

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CantHoldMeDown · 09/05/2025 21:30

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Dreichweather · 09/05/2025 21:36

A full day in school is intense, especially for some one who is ND. She very probably needs to regulate before she can attempt homework. Asking her to do home work before regulating is setting her up to fail and is going to negatively impact her mental health.

Is school good at making adjustments for her?

The autistic girls network is a great website and they have a really helpful facebook group.

Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 22:25

Thank you, that’s really helpful. I definitely don’t want to be nagging her or making things harder for her.

Her diagnosis was private but the school have made some provision for her eg provided a quiet room that she can use any time during the day and can leave lessons if she gets overwhelmed. However, she has never used this as she doesn’t like to draw attention to herself. Just waiting for the NHS diagnosis to come through and I think they will be able to help more then, probably another year I think.

I’ll look up those groups, thanks so much, that’s so useful.

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Octavia64 · 09/05/2025 22:39

I have a young adult DD with auDHD

recommendations:
dry shampoo. Game changer.
there’s a lot of stuff on TikTok for hacking your adhd brain that my DD finds useful. Yes, it’s TikTok but she takes it in.

meds have changed my DD’s life. Consider them.

Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 22:47

Thank you @Octavia64, how was the process of medication? Is it trial and error until you find the right thing or is more straightforward than that? Can I ask how it helped your daughter? I’m happy to consider them, just a bit nervous I guess as it’s all new to me.

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beetr00 · 10/05/2025 00:06

@Stopiwantotgetoff she sounds overwhelmed tbh (common in AuDHD), step back.

Her brain doesn't work like yours, I know it's all new but there are huge resources on the net to offer best approaches.

You could possibly start here and here it will then lead to other sites for information.

The better you understand her struggles the easier and less frustrating it will be for you both.

Just remember, she is a beautiful wee unicorn 🦄

Dreichweather · 10/05/2025 07:09

Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 22:25

Thank you, that’s really helpful. I definitely don’t want to be nagging her or making things harder for her.

Her diagnosis was private but the school have made some provision for her eg provided a quiet room that she can use any time during the day and can leave lessons if she gets overwhelmed. However, she has never used this as she doesn’t like to draw attention to herself. Just waiting for the NHS diagnosis to come through and I think they will be able to help more then, probably another year I think.

I’ll look up those groups, thanks so much, that’s so useful.

There are loads more adjusts school can make, things like registering with student support rather than with form class for a soft start to the day. Home kept at a minimum with a max time she should spend it, staff checking she has recorded home work.

Are school following the recommendations of the private assessment?

There are some other adjustments which may help

autisticgirlsnetwork.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/AGN-Reasonable-Adjustments-Possible-at-School-Standard.pdf

Sunnysidegold · 10/05/2025 07:18

How much does she know about her Auadhd? Id she could understand more about how her brain works it might help? One I found easy to access is a YouTube channel called 'How to ADHD'. It gives tips and stuff but also explains the science behind it.

Support from tigers with similar issues could be useful. Being a teenage girl is pretty tough but adding in her autism and ADHD will make things so much harder.

Your husband needs to step up. It's not fair that you have to take over his responsibilities.

There's apps you can have to control your child's phone too, it'll limit screen time and put timers on specific apps you want to limit.

School should be able to add more accommodations. If would be worth talking to the sendco.

MargotJane · 10/05/2025 07:25

Meds were life changing for my AuDHDer. He says that he can choose what to focus on for the first time. Also recommend 'What Works for Autistic Children' by Luke Beardon

BertieBotts · 10/05/2025 07:29

I have ADHD and for me, medication reduces procrastination, emotional volatility and makes obsessions (I prefer the term hyperfocus!) more manageable.

E.g. I used to spend the entire day on MN. Now I spend about an hour before I get bored of it.

It can also help with the self medication seeking type behaviour. I really think it would be worth discussing risks and benefits with a psychiatrist.

In terms of other stuff it might be worth looking at Ross Greene's Collaborative Problem Solving and the Declarative Language website is also really good.

It's not too difficult to look how to set up parental controls via Windows and Android - this can be automated.

BertieBotts · 10/05/2025 07:36

It is trial and error but there are only two stimulants - methylphenidate based or amphetamine based. Amphetamine sounds scary but it's tiny doses and they usually give this in the format lisdexamfetamine, which means that it is attached to a molecule which has to be processed by the liver before the drug becomes available to the body so it stabilises as a slow drip drip and it's not possible to abuse it and get high from it.

Each one has about an 85% chance of working so it's a case of trying one and then the other if the first doesn't work. All the variants are just timing and dosage.

If stimulants don't work there are non stimulants but these have to build up in the system like antidepressants so you can't be as flexible with them and they don't work as well.

TheVeryThing · 10/05/2025 07:39

It sounds pretty stressful for everyone and you are getting some good advice.
However, you need to factor in that she is autistic also so not the same as someone with ADHD alone.
my dh is AuDHD and says that medication is often not beneficial, and dampening down the ADHD can mean the autistic side is more to the fore. I believe it does complicate things having/ being both as sometimes they are almost fighting each other and other times one balances the more extreme impacts of the other iykwim.

TheSilentMajority · 10/05/2025 07:45

myself and my 3 kids have adhd and my daughter also has autism. Honestly try the adhd meds - you are literally risking her education not trying them and a continued nightmare for your family. She will get worse. My daughter can’t take them due to medical reasons but my son takes them for exam periods - pushed his grades up from like a 5/6/7s to all 8s and 9s in a few months for GCSEs. Try them it’s not fair on her not to

TheSilentMajority · 10/05/2025 07:54

Stopiwantotgetoff · 09/05/2025 22:47

Thank you @Octavia64, how was the process of medication? Is it trial and error until you find the right thing or is more straightforward than that? Can I ask how it helped your daughter? I’m happy to consider them, just a bit nervous I guess as it’s all new to me.

You have choice with how long they last ie you can do 4hrly pills (with option to take them again after the 4hrs have passed) or ranges up to 12hrly. You start off on lowest dose for a week and go up through the dose range each week into you get to a level which works for you. If you want to stop - just stop same day no need to go back down as such.
autism seeks rituals - adhd gets in the way of achieving these as too disorganised. Meds quiet the noise
the issue is if she is already slim they can drop feelings of appetite

Stopiwantotgetoff · 10/05/2025 08:36

I'm so grateful for everybody's replies - I've been so alone in this, trying to work out what is best to do. I actually feel quite emotional - thank you so much.

Absolutely my DH should step up but I'm realistic now about what I can expect from him. His own ADHD isn't helping. He's a separate thread I suppose, right now I'm the only parent looking after my daughter's welfare and I'll just carry on doing that rather than wasting time and energy in trying to get him on board.

I am going to look into medication for her and book an appt with her psychiatrist, as well as seeing what other adjustments schools can make. At the moment she doesn't want any involvement from the school but it might be a conversation the psychiatrist can have with her. I think sometimes with me, because I'm her mum, she immediately doesn't want to talk to me - fairly standard teenage behaviour? If it comes from someone else she likes she might be more likely to open up.

DD has been doing her own research a little bit, which is great. We had a funny conversation about her hyperfocus subjects over the years (thanks @BertieBotts for the less negative wording!). She's been a Taylor Swift superfan for about 3 years. A couple of weeks ago all her Taylor stuff came down off the walls and anime characters went up - literally overnight!

It's so nice to write something positive/funny about her as I spend most of my time thinking about the difficult issues.

One thing I'd like to help her with is social interactions. I have seen her come across as quite mean to her friends, and I can see they are visibly upset - she's oblivious to how they feel. I've been looking for some sort of coaching but haven't found anything yet.

She's so sensitive to perceived criticism I haven't yet tried to talk to her about this because I don't want her to start feeling self-conscious but at the same time she has a very small group of friends and I would like her to be able to keep them.

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BertieBotts · 10/05/2025 09:51

There's a podcast I love called Weirds of a Feather which has two female hosts, one of whom is AuDHD and the other I can't remember if she's just ADHD or just ASD but one of them anyway.

Maybe a suggestion if she's comfortable with the "weird" label/description.

Or I really like The Hidden 20% where the host talks to people with all kinds of neurodivergent conditions.

Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 10/05/2025 10:30

Mine is 13 and awaiting formal diagnosis.

agree with the PP she will argue the sky is green (for example) and not listen to me but I have learnt to just say ok, walk away, and then a bit later she will come and say ok it’s blue.

I cannot talk to her about anything at all. She hates it. I have to communicate anything more than social
pleasantries by text!

I also have to be careful how I ask her to do things - I cannot push, again plant the seed and let her get there of own accord. Asking her to do stuff usually results in her saying she was going to do it and I have spoilt it. Her room is a mess 90% of the time. It needs a good clean which I need to broach as I had to stop cleaner going in there as the movement of her things really upset her. So I think I need to broach as a question - how do we deal with it not you need to do xyz.

she also seems very keen on alcohol (I know she had it once) her dad vapes and she hates it so I don’t think she has tried but who
knows….

she also hates help, won’t ask for it at school and doesn’t want anyone to help her at home.

Stopiwantotgetoff · 12/05/2025 22:11

That all sounds so familiar to me too @Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky, it’s so difficult isn’t it?

I don’t know if it was posting on here but I behaved very differently this weekend and we’ve had one of the nicest weekends we’ve had in a long time.

She woke up late on Saturday and just looked so tired and grumpy, I just wanted to give her a big hug. No hugs allowed though so I made her favourite breakfast and suggested she go and watch her programmes for a couple of hours and then the rest of the day was hers to do what she wanted. She was so pleased, first time I’ve seen a smile in what feels like months.

In the afternoon, I was doing some schoolwork with my younger DD, and she asked if she could sit with us! I mean, this is completely unheard of.

She got her schoolbooks and sat with us, we all chatted a little bit every now and then but mostly everyone got on with their own work. Essentially bodydoubling, which she has repeatedly refused to do. I know if I suggest we do it again she will say no but hopefully she will just join us in the future.

She has just been incredibly rude to me so the weekend was obviously a little blip but it was so nice for the rest of the family to be not walking on egg shells. Hopefully we will have more weekends like the one just gone.

thank you for the podcasts @BertieBotts, so does see herself as being different to other children so she will find these interesting. I’ll have a listen too!

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