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I just reversed into a car which has no insurance, tax or MOT. What happens now?

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notthisnowaswell · 28/04/2025 18:27

driving home, residential streets with lots of parked cars obstructing views...edged out of a t-junction to turn left. there was a car coming down the road, so I reversed back....into the car which had followed me out of the junction.

his car is scuffed over the passenger wheel arch (mostly paint transfer from my car) and I have quite a crunch to the right back corner

he was really cross and wanted me to bank transfer him money to repair his car. which I declined and said I want to go through insurance (as I'm skint), gave him my name, number and registration. I have his registration and phone number.

I have checked online and the vehicle tax expired in march 2024, MOT expired march this year. so he has no insurance. what will happen now?? I am not planning on telling my insurance company unless he makes a claim because I am financially really really struggling and don't want my premium to increase

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AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:36

FlowerUser · 28/04/2025 21:24

Thank you for your insight.

Given that speeding has a minimum fine of £100, I'd say in motoring terms, £300 is steep. You forgot to mention that it's more if it goes to court. In fact, it's an unlimited fine and a criminal record.

It's also illegal to keep an uninsured vehicle under the Continuous Insurance Enforcement (CIE) Regulations unless it's been declared SORN and the police are also likely to seize the vehicle in any case.

Driving without insurance carries an IN10 endorsement four years and must be disclosed to insurers for five years, significantly increasing insurance premiums.

So yeah, pretty steep.

Ok, but as I say, I still don’t think that’s steep. Good for you if you do.

FiveBarGate · 28/04/2025 21:38

Well this is a batshit one

I really can't see him claiming for that and running the risk with an untaxed vehicle.

I think your approach is good. Tell him that his insurance company will be able to find you from the details you have already provided.

All the people saying he still deserves something, if he had run into the OP she'd not be able to claim against him. Those are the risks he's happy to run.

You don't actually know what happened. Just decide in your own mind exactly what you will say if your insurance company get in touch, even if the answer is 'I'm not sure what happened, very minor contact '. The evidence he can provide in terms of damage is very minor.

Hope you are feeling better. It's not a nice feeling and you've taken a battering here.

messybutfun · 28/04/2025 21:39

ZoggyStirdust · 28/04/2025 18:52

no tax or mot doesn’t necessarily mean no insurance. They’re separate offences and he could still be insured and it could be valid.

however that’s by the by. You were at fault, you should provide your details to him (name of insurer is sufficient). He can claim on your insurance.

but also he shouldn’t be harassing you, once he has your details he should not contact you and you don’t have to give him any more information.

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Insurance cover is only valid if the car is legally on the road which means tax and MOT.

Who is your insurance company going to believe? Some guy who drives without MOT, tax and insurance? Or you? Are you sure you reversed into him?

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:40

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:31

Actually she does because he had no insurance , if he did they could go through the insurance . She owes him nothing

HE doesn’t need insurance to claim on OPs insurance and as OP is the one liable it’s her insurance who pay.

all he needs to do is phone her insurance company and start a claim. He doesn’t need his own insurance

1415isgreat · 28/04/2025 21:43

notthisnowaswell · 28/04/2025 18:44

is it normal to expect insurance companies to communicate on it though?

i do feel annoyed at having to pay to fix his scratch, when he isn't even legal

I could ask him to go through the police??

You literally reversed into him and now you are annoyed that you may have to pay for the damage? Don’t be so ridiculous.

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:44

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:40

HE doesn’t need insurance to claim on OPs insurance and as OP is the one liable it’s her insurance who pay.

all he needs to do is phone her insurance company and start a claim. He doesn’t need his own insurance

Good luck getting her insurance to pay out , specially with reversing in a car that is almost impossible to prove

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:44

Everytime somebody mentions that MN is a primarily MC/UMC (which never fails to make me laugh) needs to read this thread to see exactly how low life many posters really are. Some people have no values at all. It is a disgusting and very concerning eye opener to the society some people live in.

SummerIce · 28/04/2025 21:45

notthisnowaswell · 28/04/2025 20:29

no. I said, yeah that is what I will do in response to telling the insurance company/letting them deal with it/blocking his phone number. I wasn't meaning that I would tell them he hit me

You’re forgetting we can see all your posts. You said you will claim that he hit you and when I said that’s a lie you said you have to do what you have to do.

You keep backtracking but all your posts are here for us all to see. You started this thread accepting responsibility and now you’ve managed to paint him as the evil nasty man who drove badly and you did nothing wrong.

We all see you OP.

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:46

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:44

Good luck getting her insurance to pay out , specially with reversing in a car that is almost impossible to prove

It happens everyday. You’re naive if you think this is an uncommon situation

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:46

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:44

Everytime somebody mentions that MN is a primarily MC/UMC (which never fails to make me laugh) needs to read this thread to see exactly how low life many posters really are. Some people have no values at all. It is a disgusting and very concerning eye opener to the society some people live in.

Would you be saying the same if he run over a child with a car that was not insured or taxed and probably not moted or even roadworthy because let’s be honest the sort of person that goes around with no insurance are mostly low life’s or criminals or both . Sorry but he deserves nothing because the car doesn’t belong on the road

ClairDeLaLune · 28/04/2025 21:46

notthisnowaswell · 28/04/2025 18:44

is it normal to expect insurance companies to communicate on it though?

i do feel annoyed at having to pay to fix his scratch, when he isn't even legal

I could ask him to go through the police??

i do feel annoyed at having to pay to fix his scratch, when he isn't even legal

Of course you should pay for the damage! You reversed into his car, you are 100% at fault. You need to pay him the £200 or go through the insurance, those are your 2 options.

Strictly speaking you should tell your insurance company anyway, you’re supposed to inform them of all accidents.

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:46

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:46

It happens everyday. You’re naive if you think this is an uncommon situation

Unless she accepts liability the insurance will not . No 2 ways about it

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:48

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:44

Everytime somebody mentions that MN is a primarily MC/UMC (which never fails to make me laugh) needs to read this thread to see exactly how low life many posters really are. Some people have no values at all. It is a disgusting and very concerning eye opener to the society some people live in.

You sound utterly bonkers. Are you so lacking in life experience you didn’t realise people thought like this?

do you also think they give a crap what you think about their values? Such weirdly stressed yet bewildered sounding post.

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:48

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:46

Would you be saying the same if he run over a child with a car that was not insured or taxed and probably not moted or even roadworthy because let’s be honest the sort of person that goes around with no insurance are mostly low life’s or criminals or both . Sorry but he deserves nothing because the car doesn’t belong on the road

Are you the police? Thats their job but the OP lying and being encouraged to do so by people like you is gross.

Your posts are some of the most low life on this thread so I'm not in the slightest bit interested in reading you trying to justify your low level opinions.

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:49

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:46

Unless she accepts liability the insurance will not . No 2 ways about it

I’ve had 2 accidents paid out that I didn’t accept liability for. They simply decide themselves what to do on the balance of cost, risk and probability.

SummerIce · 28/04/2025 21:49

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:48

Are you the police? Thats their job but the OP lying and being encouraged to do so by people like you is gross.

Your posts are some of the most low life on this thread so I'm not in the slightest bit interested in reading you trying to justify your low level opinions.

I’m equally amazed such scummy lying people exist. As though the other driver being a man in a blacked out car means OP is off the hook.

Genuinely shocking thread.

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:50

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:48

You sound utterly bonkers. Are you so lacking in life experience you didn’t realise people thought like this?

do you also think they give a crap what you think about their values? Such weirdly stressed yet bewildered sounding post.

I thought the dregs of society thought like that but it seems so many people on MN fit that category. What a horrible world we are bringing our kids up in.

Crazyworldmum · 28/04/2025 21:52

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:48

Are you the police? Thats their job but the OP lying and being encouraged to do so by people like you is gross.

Your posts are some of the most low life on this thread so I'm not in the slightest bit interested in reading you trying to justify your low level opinions.

Then I suggest the op to contact the police on top of telling him to go through the insurance . That way he can be taken off the road loose his car , get quite a few points and a few hundreds in fines . Sorry but claiming the high ground to support someone that is using a car not road worthy as no mot that should not even be parked on a public road is bonkers , he could have killed someone .
I didn’t suggest op lied , I suggested she replied she would only go through her insurance and inform them she is contacting the police as she knows the car is not roadworthy , insured or taxed . None of the above is a lie

Namerequired · 28/04/2025 21:54

Just pay the man! Omg you backed into him. And £200 is not worth your premiums going up. You could lie but it will (hopefully) come back on you 3 times. And it’s morally wrong!

SalfordQuays · 28/04/2025 21:55

TheHerboriste · 28/04/2025 21:32

What the fuck? "He was not paying attention either" ??

It is not the norm to have the car ahead of one reverse with no warning. Was he supposed to spring into action, check his mirror, shift into R and speed backward to avoid HER hitting HIS vehicle with her imprudent move?

If his vehicle were stationary it is not 50/50.

@TheHerboriste his vehicle wasn’t stationary. He was trying to pull around her, before she’d definitively moved forward.

CarefulN0w · 28/04/2025 21:55

notthisnowaswell · 28/04/2025 19:48

it's a BMW X6 2020

Be careful of handing over any money. A high value car will cost more to have scuffs removed. The wise thing to do is to take the hit on insurance, rather than risk him coming after you for more money when the cash isn’t enough.

what I might be tempted to do is to give him your insurance details and cross your fingers that he chooses not to use them,

AquaPeer · 28/04/2025 21:56

Sleepington · 28/04/2025 21:50

I thought the dregs of society thought like that but it seems so many people on MN fit that category. What a horrible world we are bringing our kids up in.

MN is full of Normal people, not some club of “non dregs” how would the internet manage to exclude your “dregs” signing up? 😂

I mean, cover your ears… but there is FAR WORSE on here.

suburburban · 28/04/2025 21:57

Greenfields20 · 28/04/2025 20:48

But in reality if it all happens fairly quickly and unexpectedly people's reactions will be too late. If a car in front of me at a junction pulls away, I move forward to take up my position, and naturally wouldnt expect the person leaving the junction to suddenly reverse, and the next minute they are reversing into me I might not have time to be flashing lights and beeping.

Yes true.

suburburban · 28/04/2025 21:59

Namerequired · 28/04/2025 21:54

Just pay the man! Omg you backed into him. And £200 is not worth your premiums going up. You could lie but it will (hopefully) come back on you 3 times. And it’s morally wrong!

He shouldn’t be on the road in the first place though

NotSafeInTaxis · 28/04/2025 22:01

SummerIce · 28/04/2025 19:22

Well as your lying pal on here said, karma exists.

It doesn't though.