Thread 22 Starmer - Running up to local elections

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Here we go. Previous thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5305431-thread-21-starmer-casting-nasturtiums?page=40&reply=143731831

The Tories are very much in favour of a US trade deal

https://bsky.app/profile/bestforbritain.bsky.social/post/3lnmtd4ns3s2x

- Shad Trade Sec, Andrew Griffith: "I'd be very worried if [Reeves] comes back empty handed."

- AJ: "What, from this trip?"

- AG: "We could have even had a [US Trade] deal already."

- AJ: "The Tories had years to do a deal and didn't manage it."

- AG: "We actually came very close."

14 years to come close but Reeves is a failure if she doesn’t accept whatever agreement they offer in 14hours?!

He sounds just like one of our favourite posters. 😂

To quote my wise old granny “A near miss is as good as a mile”.

Love that this was marked as sensitive content. And glad you're back with a new name.

Probably as close as getting a full set of lottery numbers, each one greater than the numbers that were drawn.

Or as close as ending up in Stockport when you wanted to visit Stockton.

Sensibly it wounds like EU trade is being prioritised

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99p5nrr53mo

Good I hope this remains the case & if a trade deal is done with America isn’t doesn’t involve in any way shape or form lowering standards I’d trust Labour far more on this than the conservatives.
As for Farage & his Fuckwit followers I can’t be bothered to dress it up he is a cunt & so are they.
Pandora hope you are ok💐

Water bosses face up to two years in prison for illegal sewage spills

New law comes into effect today as trust in the water industry reaches a record low, according to the state spending watchdog.

https://news.sky.com/story/public-failed-by-water-regulators-and-government-as-bills-rise-spending-watchdog-says-13354889

I would not be confident in them actually going to prison. A lifetime of disqualification of being a director, and perhaps several years of being unable to travel abroad or drive, I would support.

We need to have non-custodial punishments that reflect today's world.

Yes. Stupid and pointless law.

Even with really bad stuff - like deaths, not poo in rivers - the only people jailed under the Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Act 2007 (enacted following the Herald of Free Enterprise disaster) have been small business owners. Not the BPs or British Steels.

And what do we do with the ‘directors’ of nationalised industries, i.e. government ministers?

Maybe they won't receive prison sentences but at the moment the maximum punishment is a fine and the only 3 people that have ever been prosecuted didn't even receive one.

The EU is prepared to make major concessions in negotiations to allow thousands of young Europeans to live and work in the UK, potentially paving the way for a long-awaited reset with Brussels.

A scheme that would allow British and European 18- to 30-year-olds to travel and work freely has been seen as a key European demand in reaching a post-Brexit pact with the UK centring on defence, energy and migration.

It is understood that EU member states could now be willing to limit work visas to as little as 12 months, with quotas on numbers and restrictions on the sectors EU citizens could work in.

They are also open to a “one in, one out” style plan being considered by the home secretary.

EU sources said the scheme would be rebranded the “youth experience” programme in order to eliminate any suggestion that it was reopening immigration routes for EU citizens wanting to live and work in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/apr/25/eu-may-accept-12-month-work-visas-for-youth-experience-scheme-with-uk

Good. Benefits young people on both sides of the Channel.

I’m very cheered by this; I think it’s a very positive development.

Me too, small step but a real benefit for young people in the UK, most of them were too young to vote in 2016

Me three

Going well in America. They're locking up the judges now...

Yes, scary. Can we call it facsism yet?

You can call anything fascism if you want.

The left generally call anyone they don’t like a fascist.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Starmer had been called a fascist by Corbynistas.

(BTW, if Trump isn’t a fascist he is at least a dangerous fool. HTH)

It helps that you think he is just a dangerous fool.

It helps them get away with it that you think he's just a dangerous fool.

Get away with what? And how would a different label for Trump stop “them”?

Really? You can't see that?

Never mind, go back to your copy of Farage Weekly, and don't worry your little head about it...

I hate Farage. I’d spit on a ballot paper rather than vote for Reform.

Well, that's something at least...