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Heathrow Airport is shut until Friday night

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Ozgirl76 · 21/03/2025 03:24

And my husband is due to fly home to Australia on Friday evening. I predict chaos.
Airport is saying that people should not travel to Heathrow and should contact their airlines.

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FruitPolos · 21/03/2025 09:23

It could be Russia. It could also be the results of poor investment into nationally sensitive infrastructure that has been left in the hands of profit focused organisations who only serve their share holders. It could even be bored kids setting fire to stuff, or some form of domestic terrorism.

We won't know for a long time.

But those who are saying "it definitely isn't Russia" are either hopelessly naive or on a Russian bot farm somewhere.

Mightymoog · 21/03/2025 09:26

Chelsea2026 · 21/03/2025 08:36

How did you manage to post this mid flight lol

I'd guess by using the onboard WiFi lol

Nottodaythankyou123 · 21/03/2025 09:27

The problem with other airports is often not just linked to the airport. Bournemouth can handle quite big planes, but the airport itself is tiny and the road network is poor - so whilst the runway itself can accommodate larger planes, the rest of the airport is lacking. I’m sure there are other similar airports, which is why the reliance on London airports is so high

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/03/2025 09:27

FruitPolos · 21/03/2025 09:23

It could be Russia. It could also be the results of poor investment into nationally sensitive infrastructure that has been left in the hands of profit focused organisations who only serve their share holders. It could even be bored kids setting fire to stuff, or some form of domestic terrorism.

We won't know for a long time.

But those who are saying "it definitely isn't Russia" are either hopelessly naive or on a Russian bot farm somewhere.

Yes.

And this is before they expand even further which the government seems to want.

prettyneededchill · 21/03/2025 09:27

JustMyView13 · 21/03/2025 08:49

Evidently not from a rebooking perspective, given that passengers aren’t being given that option. You know flight cancellations happen daily right? Granted not on this volume, but they’re still selling flights for early next week. Flights that with the right tech behind it, could be offered to stranded passengers.
I think you underestimate the power of the technology that’s out there these days, and how archaic BA’s IT systems are (which is a known fact).

Yes. Single flights get cancelled.

Not an entire day’s worth of flights from your home hub and planes being re-routed because they’re unable to land. Not only are your planes in the wrong place, so are your crew and pilots.

It’s a completely difference scenario from the 18.55 to Larnaca being cancelled because of a fault on the plane.

CaveMum · 21/03/2025 09:27

Ed Milliband on Radio 4:

“There's obviously been a catastrophic fire at this substation," he says, adding "it appears to have knocked out a back-up generator as well as a substation itself."

"We will have to look hard at the causes, and also the protection and the resilience that is in place for major, major institutions like Heathrow,"

PixieMcGraw · 21/03/2025 09:29

I don't think years of under investment in our infrastructure can be blamed on Russia.
Normally you would expect an airport to be supplied by two separate substations so if one goes off line it can still operate. It might be very convenient to blame bad actors but I used to be a civil engineer and still have friends in the field and honestly the UK is suffering from really poor decision making.
I blame the private sector and UK govt. But that's not as sexy as all this war talk.

HappySheldon · 21/03/2025 09:30

FruitPolos · 21/03/2025 09:23

It could be Russia. It could also be the results of poor investment into nationally sensitive infrastructure that has been left in the hands of profit focused organisations who only serve their share holders. It could even be bored kids setting fire to stuff, or some form of domestic terrorism.

We won't know for a long time.

But those who are saying "it definitely isn't Russia" are either hopelessly naive or on a Russian bot farm somewhere.

Do you know- I'd love to sit somewhere and be paid to MN all day.

Longsummerdays25 · 21/03/2025 09:33

PixieMcGraw · 21/03/2025 09:29

I don't think years of under investment in our infrastructure can be blamed on Russia.
Normally you would expect an airport to be supplied by two separate substations so if one goes off line it can still operate. It might be very convenient to blame bad actors but I used to be a civil engineer and still have friends in the field and honestly the UK is suffering from really poor decision making.
I blame the private sector and UK govt. But that's not as sexy as all this war talk.

War talk isn’t sexy, and if this does turn out to be Russia - alongside the sabotage of an oil tanker a few days before we want to hope the government have a plan for a war with Russia via the back door. This is precisely how Russia operates.

ForRealCat · 21/03/2025 09:34

Then the poor sods will be landing to a shut M25

Extiainoiapeial · 21/03/2025 09:35

Julieju1 · 21/03/2025 09:03

I really feel for anyone affected by this.

It's time air travel in the UK stopped focusing on big airports. When something goes wrong it's chaos.
Instead of increasing capacity at big airports like Heathrow, capacity should increase a smaller airports. Cardiff has loads of spare capacity, I'm sure others must be the same.

Bristol is expanding but my god the outlying route into the airport is a joke. One B road to get to the airport, last time I flew it took nearly an hour just to get to the turning for the airport . Until that is addressed, I can't see how it can expand.

I feel so sorry for all these people affected by this, a total nightmare.

MissMoneyFairy · 21/03/2025 09:36

Ozgirl76 · 21/03/2025 04:47

Lord what a pain. I feel so sorry for people heading on holidays. At least my DH is coming home - it’ll be a shame to be delayed but he’s also on a work trip.

It affects local residents and infrastructure too

Bolscassis · 21/03/2025 09:41

The radio is saying that the normal backup generators at the substation or Heathrow, not sure as was doing school run, were removed because they were diesel powered and not in line with the net zero commitment.

whoever made that decision needs to be sacked.

Reallynosuchthing · 21/03/2025 09:45

Flew overnight from Cape Town and we were diverted to Madrid. Just waiting now to see what will happen. I miss my bed!

EasternStandard · 21/03/2025 09:47

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/03/2025 09:27

Yes.

And this is before they expand even further which the government seems to want.

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCatwondering what you mean here by government wanting to them to expand further

Theywerebrilliant · 21/03/2025 09:48

Chelsea2026 · 21/03/2025 08:36

How did you manage to post this mid flight lol

Lol perhaps read the previous 7 pages lol

Chelsea2026 · 21/03/2025 09:52

Extiainoiapeial · 21/03/2025 09:35

Bristol is expanding but my god the outlying route into the airport is a joke. One B road to get to the airport, last time I flew it took nearly an hour just to get to the turning for the airport . Until that is addressed, I can't see how it can expand.

I feel so sorry for all these people affected by this, a total nightmare.

I agree the smaller regional airports like Cardiff, Exeter, Manchester, Liverpool, Blackpool, Doncaster/Sheffield all have long runways and could take even more flights! THe government needs a regional airport strategy but Keir wont listen to this as its probably not aligned with net zero,

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/03/2025 09:53

EasternStandard · 21/03/2025 09:47

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCatwondering what you mean here by government wanting to them to expand further

Third Runway is back on the cards despite all the green promises.

Local infrastructure can’t cope as it is.
Who will be paying? The taxpayers while Heathrow’s dividends go to their foreign shareholders.

Chelsea2026 · 21/03/2025 09:53

Longsummerdays25 · 21/03/2025 09:33

War talk isn’t sexy, and if this does turn out to be Russia - alongside the sabotage of an oil tanker a few days before we want to hope the government have a plan for a war with Russia via the back door. This is precisely how Russia operates.

This isn't Russia - it can't be unless they find its a Russian agent committing arson! I dont get the conspiracy theories. How would M15/M16 prove its Russia! Let the local electricity organisation and National Grid investigate before we start speculating

sparrowflewdown · 21/03/2025 09:55

CaveMum · 21/03/2025 08:54

I agree that much of our infrastructure is aging and has been underinvested in.

I still think it’s highly unlikely that such a key piece servicing a major transport hub would not have contingencies. I mean it’s a bit strange that the back ups are not working too?

Very happy to be proven wrong, but the sceptic in me thinks this has deliberate sabotage written all over it.

Because they have also been knocked out presumably. It makes the UK look pretty weak tbh. We could easily see other major disruptions if this an attack.

Surely this would trigger NATO article 5 if found out to be Russia? I don't think the Government will admit it is Russia because Starmer likes harsh words and pomp but will dive into his bunker at the first sign of trouble. This will be played down like the tanker.

Where are all the satirical cartoonists?

Bolscassis · 21/03/2025 09:56

The contingency was diesel powered back up generators but they removed them to be green! What a fuck up!

Shudacudawuda · 21/03/2025 09:58

Does anyone on the thread live in the area?
Heard on the radio that houses in the area only lost power briefly and are mostly restored now, yet Heathrow still has no power?? It makes no sense.

FatherFrosty · 21/03/2025 09:58

jasflowers · 21/03/2025 08:08

No what i meant wasn't a load of batteries but alternative mains power.

Important national infrastructure should have telecoms and power redundancy built in, internet/telecoms lines provided from different Open reach exchanges, which in turn powered by different sources & power provided by different substations.

Otherwise, its just a single point of failure, which Heathrow should not have.

Yes expensive but this is a international embarrassment.

Edited

The fire knocked the backup out as well

Readyforseptember · 21/03/2025 09:59

sashh · 21/03/2025 07:23

I think the first part is sending people back if they can so the poster on the flight from Canada is heading back to Canada because tomorrow the plane will be in the right place if Heathrow is open. If it had been diverted to a UK or EU airport then both the plane and the passengers getting off would be in the wrong place, and then the passengers intending to board at Heathrow are no where near the plane.

Flights without enough fuel will be diverted to anywhere with space, the right length of runway etc. Then other things kick in, maybe keep passengers local in a hotel, or bus them send them by train to the airport they were supposed to go to.

On 9/11 about 20 000 people landed in Canada instead of the USA. Some were landed near big cities but then you had about 3000 who ended up in Gander because they had the runway for wide bodied planes.

If you are interested google, "operation yellow ribbon'.

There's a fantastic musical based on this! Come from Away.