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Is anyone watching Gareth Southgate delivering the Richard Dimbleby Lecture?

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Reetpetitenot · 19/03/2025 23:04

What a truly decent human being he is.

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doodleygirl · 19/03/2025 23:07

I’ve just finished watching it on iPlayer, he is certainly inspiring, I am going to tell my DD’s who both have boys under a year old to watch, it should be compulsory watching for all.

burnoutbabe · 19/03/2025 23:08

Lots of comments from my industry on some of his comments putting gaming alongside porn and gambling. Hopefully he will clarify that soon.

Reetpetitenot · 19/03/2025 23:10

I think the comment relates to how gaming is addictive.

ETA gaming addiction impacts relationships in the same way as gambling and porn addiction. I have seen the effect excessive gaming has on young people, particularly young men.

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doodleygirl · 19/03/2025 23:11

For some gaming should be alongside porn and gambling, each addictive in their own way.

Fintoo · 19/03/2025 23:12

He’s very impressive

Elderflower14 · 19/03/2025 23:18

I saw him speak on the news. I thought he as excellent
When I was pregnant with Wilf I was in hospital with pre eclampsia when the Euro 96s were on.
I was supposed to be kept calm and.my blood was regularly monitored.
I persuaded the midwife to.wheel me to the tv room to watch the football. After Southgate missed the penalty you can imagine how I was. The mw.wheeled me back to bed and took my.bp....
My previously calm as a millpond.bp.now had a huge triangle at the.end.. The mw drew a line next to it with a asterix and she wrote. EURO 96 PENALTY SHOOT OUT next to it. I'd love to tell Gareth that story..

coastergirl · 20/03/2025 00:30

Thank you for posting this. I love him so I've just put it on.

BereftBeyondBelief · 20/03/2025 00:36

I have recorded it, I have always admired his ethics and decency. It will be good to watch.

BigDahliaFan · 20/03/2025 07:18

Went to see Dear England at the National Theatre. I was in floods. He’s such a decent guy.

pinkertin · 20/03/2025 07:34

burnoutbabe · 19/03/2025 23:08

Lots of comments from my industry on some of his comments putting gaming alongside porn and gambling. Hopefully he will clarify that soon.

Many young people could benefit from playing the game of life as strategically, as competitively, as collaboratively, and as enthusiastically as they play their video games.

NotDarkGothicMama · 20/03/2025 07:41

I'm saving it to watch with DS this evening. I love Gareth, can't believe the abuse he got.

Sunshineandrainbow · 20/03/2025 07:55

I will watch it later, I adore him. I just can't help thinking of the penalty every time I see him and I just hope it doesn't still weigh heavy on him.

So wanted him to win a trophy with England but so proud of what he achieved with reaching the finals.

Dear England is coming to our local theatre I hope I can go.

pinkertin · 20/03/2025 07:56

burnoutbabe · 19/03/2025 23:08

Lots of comments from my industry on some of his comments putting gaming alongside porn and gambling. Hopefully he will clarify that soon.

That's because gaming is one of the 6 key themes of the Lost Boys report he referenced: https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/library/lost-boys

Lost Boys

Boys and young men are in crisis. Whilst the last hundred years have been marked by great leaps forward in outcomes and rights for women, in this generation it is boys who are being left behind.

https://www.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk/library/lost-boys

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 20/03/2025 08:01

Sunshineandrainbow · 20/03/2025 07:55

I will watch it later, I adore him. I just can't help thinking of the penalty every time I see him and I just hope it doesn't still weigh heavy on him.

So wanted him to win a trophy with England but so proud of what he achieved with reaching the finals.

Dear England is coming to our local theatre I hope I can go.

He has always said he learned from the experience and hasn't let him define him. I feel he's defined more by his time as England manager when he got the players to show some self-respect and play better as a team. He's an inspiration.

SocialEvent · 20/03/2025 08:03

He's really impressive.

Makebettermen · 20/03/2025 08:17

I watched and thought it was a very important piece. I have "boys" 24 & 21. The older one seems to be thriving, but the younger is a shadow of the sparkly boy he was at 5/8/12 yo, for all the reasons Gareth sets out, and I don't know how to help him.

I also appreciated what he said about women and girls and how we help women by making better men, but I thought it was very telling that even when a "good" man is saying something positive about women, still the first (only) adjective is beautiful. The most important thing about his wife and daughter is their looks, when I'm sure they are also talented, funny, intelligent, strong etc.

Wildflowers99 · 20/03/2025 09:23

I thought it was very telling that even when a "good" man is saying something positive about women, still the first (only) adjective is beautiful

I think this is finding a problem where none exists. Beautiful now doesn’t really mean physically, it means somebody who is radiant, positive, a lovely person etc. Equally if he’d said talented or intelligent, would that mean he couldn’t compliment them at all if they’re average or not very bright?

Wildflowers99 · 20/03/2025 09:24

the younger is a shadow of the sparkly boy he was at 5/8/12 yo, for all the reasons Gareth sets out, and I don't know how to help him

Did he have a smartphone? What did/does he spend his time doing?

Makebettermen · 20/03/2025 09:27

Wildflowers99 · 20/03/2025 09:23

I thought it was very telling that even when a "good" man is saying something positive about women, still the first (only) adjective is beautiful

I think this is finding a problem where none exists. Beautiful now doesn’t really mean physically, it means somebody who is radiant, positive, a lovely person etc. Equally if he’d said talented or intelligent, would that mean he couldn’t compliment them at all if they’re average or not very bright?

Not, it means even now, and even by good men, women are mostly valued for their looks. If they're not bright he can find something else complimentary to say, in the same way as he would about the boys. Presumably his wife and daughter do have other qualities he appreciates.

In a lecture nearly an hour long, he never once mentioned how attractive all the young men he's worked with are.

Wildflowers99 · 20/03/2025 09:30

Makebettermen · 20/03/2025 09:27

Not, it means even now, and even by good men, women are mostly valued for their looks. If they're not bright he can find something else complimentary to say, in the same way as he would about the boys. Presumably his wife and daughter do have other qualities he appreciates.

In a lecture nearly an hour long, he never once mentioned how attractive all the young men he's worked with are.

I still think it’s overthinking, and picking apart a well intentioned comment from a good man is self defeating. I’ve heard people describe their sons as ‘my beautiful boys’ on many occasions. It doesn’t really mean what it used to. I feel like it’s become somewhat trendy to desperately look for ulterior meanings whenever anyone says anything, it won’t help our case at all

Makebettermen · 20/03/2025 09:32

Makebettermen · 20/03/2025 09:27

Not, it means even now, and even by good men, women are mostly valued for their looks. If they're not bright he can find something else complimentary to say, in the same way as he would about the boys. Presumably his wife and daughter do have other qualities he appreciates.

In a lecture nearly an hour long, he never once mentioned how attractive all the young men he's worked with are.

He could have just said something like amazing or wonderful, but he went with their looks. And the fact that it was insignificant, just an easy compliment, is why it's significant. It's that unconscious sexism again.

fromthevault · 20/03/2025 09:37

Wildflowers99 · 20/03/2025 09:30

I still think it’s overthinking, and picking apart a well intentioned comment from a good man is self defeating. I’ve heard people describe their sons as ‘my beautiful boys’ on many occasions. It doesn’t really mean what it used to. I feel like it’s become somewhat trendy to desperately look for ulterior meanings whenever anyone says anything, it won’t help our case at all

It's not overthinking, it's critical thinking.

I have indeed called my son 'beautiful' more than once (he's gorgeous in my eyes) but it's absolutely true to point out the difference in the way women are generally described compared to how we talk about men.

Regardless, GS is a good man. DH took ds to see Dear England last year and they still talk about it now. I'm starting to think it should be compulsory viewing!

Wildflowers99 · 20/03/2025 10:15

I will agree to disagree, but I think this nit picking is very self defeating in the context of what we’re discussing. We should be encouraging men like Gareth to speak out, not stop them for fear of people nit picking at well intentioned things they say. The culture of gaming/porn/Andrew Tate is far more urgent than a man calling his family beautiful.

Grandma60 · 20/03/2025 13:01

He was eloquent, passionate, and came across as an honest and decent human being. Recommended viewing

Buidheachas · 20/03/2025 17:40

I loved that he was talking about solutions. So positive and hopeful. And this 53 year old woman found his 'resilience and belief from culture, connection and identity' model very very helpful for my own future personal development.