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Fibromyalgia - be honest.

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Hellovation · 19/03/2025 21:16

I think I’m going to be diagnosed with fibromyalgia.

I had never heard of it, until the neurologist and GP both mentioned it.

Having now mentioned this to a few people and their reaction leaving me confused, some internet searches lead me to believe it is widely believed to be a non diagnosis and simply something in one’s head or a ‘lazy diagnosis’ because doctors are at a loss.

I was heartened to think I might have a diagnosis and understanding and way forward to get better and live my life but now I feel so sad.

Be absolutely honest- what do you think of fibromyalgia?

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Stealthmodemama · 19/03/2025 23:07

Honestly, I think it is a b12 deficiency.

I think knowledge about b12 is woeful and the NHS treatment path is so low -that even when given the amount they do you do not get well - so write of the importance of b12.

I think if your B12 and folic acid level (the two work together) were high enough you would feel well enough to function some of the time

That said most of the folks I have met with fibro are 'stuck' and are not ready to fight to make themselves better.

HÆLTHEPAIN · 19/03/2025 23:07

BrandonFlowersEyesWithEyeliner · 19/03/2025 22:59

I do have a strong opinion on this. I unintentionally offended a lady on another thread by sharing it and I really am not taking pride in causing offence to others like her.

But this is my honest opinion:

CFS/ME/Fibromyalgia are NOT medical conditions. They are not diagnosable by any tests.

They are synonymous with "we've excluded all causes, and have no answers"

It's a functional syndrome.

Research shows your typical sufferer is a middle aged female without higher education with concomitant depression or anxiety. That's not a sneer. It's a fact. It does not mean ALL sufferers will fit this.

Drs realise that many people for whatever reason do not like a mental health diagnosis for many different reasons. Stigma still exists with these diagnoses. So, they give the patient a physical syndrome, which validates them , and also makes them go away from the drs office.

I believe the symptoms absolutely. I believe depression better explains them. That's also not a sneer. I've suffered depression in the past, and it's a visceral reaction I feel when I imagine being back in that hell hole. When I think back, I had so many IBS like symptoms (I don't now), I had aches and pains in my arms and legs. The tiredness was all consuming, I'd spend my days off just sleeping in the late mornings, sometimes for 3 hours and still feel shattered. But when I treated the depression, these symptoms more or less resolved. Depression is very real and it causes all manner of physical symptoms. You're hyper aware of pain etc. i never sought help for those symptoms as I knew deep down it was depression related and I'd given up caring much at the time anyway. But, if I had sought help and denied I was in mental distress, no doubt I'd have been diagnosed with fibromyalgia.

Furthermore, CFS/ME/fibromyalgia/long COVID/depression/health anxiety/IBS often co -occur...

On another note, I have seen (middle aged women) palmed off with 'fibromyalgia' when they've later turned out to have rheumatoid arthritis or lupus or worse. I think these subjective functional syndromes do no favours to the sufferer.

One last point. It does causes cognitive bias in healthcare professionals. If you have fibromyalgia on your past history, any future complaints of pain are likely to be taken less seriously and attributed to 'fibromyalgia'. You could be less likely to be investigated.

The WHO class ME/CFS as a disorder of the nervous system, or a neurological disorder.

I do not have the ME because I’m depressed; I get down because I have ME. There is a massive difference.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:07

Whateverfloatsyourgoat · 19/03/2025 23:03

what I wrote wasn’t bollocks. It happened. Doctors do diagnose it ALL THE TIME and also it’s probably diagnosed in lieu of them knowing what the fuck is actually wrong.

your aggressive and reactive posts aren’t helping anyone

And your ableist posts aren’t helping anyone either!
In my trust, GPs cannot and will not diagnose it! It is diagnosed by MRI.
Stop telling people that a neurological disorder is imaginary.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Catpuss66 · 19/03/2025 23:08

farmlife2 · 19/03/2025 22:37

The people I know with it were diagnosed early 20s or even late teens.

But they are women I take it…..80% of autoimmune conditions are in women.

incywincyspiders · 19/03/2025 23:08

Haven’t even read all this thread but some of the comments I have read are ableist bullcrap -

signed a person with ME who is LUCKY to be well enough to still be able to work full time.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:08

@HÆLTHEPAIN👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you!

SchoolNightWine · 19/03/2025 23:08

This picture sums up fibromyalgia and similar/related conditions perfectly (hypermobility and hypothyroidism being the ones that affect me).

OP - I think a diagnosis is mostly helpful to feel validated. It doesn’t provide a cure, but provides a reason for all those symptoms in the photo, and reassurance that you’re not lazy or a hypochondriac. I don’t really share my diagnosis but it does help me personally.

Fibromyalgia - be honest.
WatermelonLolly · 19/03/2025 23:10

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 22:44

No it is not diagnosed by GPs stop spouting crap! It can ONLY be diagnosed by Rheumatologists 🙄

It can be diagnosed by gps now, I am a rheumatology specialist.

Our trust no longer accept suspected fibromyalgia cases into rheumatology unless they have suspected inflammatory markers. It is heading that way across the country now, uk.

HÆLTHEPAIN · 19/03/2025 23:10

Whateverfloatsyourgoat · 19/03/2025 23:07

Explain what you mean here?

You assume it’s mostly psychological based on your anecdotal evidence of 2 people you know.

reversegear · 19/03/2025 23:10

Sunshineandclearskies · 19/03/2025 21:50

I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia about 6 years ago. It's a very frustrating diagnosis as they still don't really know what it is. I have varying degrees of symptoms. Wide spread pain like I'm bruised all over. Random stabbing pain. Tightening pain around the ribs like something has been tied tight under breasts. Burning skin, numbness, tingling, pins and needles, feeling like skin is crawling or water is dripping/running down body. But by far the most restrictive is the Chronic fatigue and poor balance. It feels like I'm constantly wearing a heavy suit of armour. As the day wears on I just sort of lose the ability to hold myself up, like a puppet who's had it's strings cut. My arms won't work and I can't even hold my phone up to my ear. I tried to keep working but had to give up my job as a carer 4 years ago and now I'm on disability.

I know there's a lot of ignorance and people don't believe it's real but I can't change that.

If you do get a diagnosis though, do yourself a massive favour and don't go on so called support groups. They have a tendency to encourage each other to stay unwell, it sort of becomes their identity, any talk about eating healthy or exercise is shot down and anyone saying they went into remission due to eating healthy or anything really are told they didn't have it in the first place. So it can be lonely but I'm not giving up.

Do your research, I've had some success eating plant based and completely raw.

Good luck

From your description that sounds like endometriosis could be playing a part here. The stabbing and tingling, tiredness and also an inflammatory condition vastly misunderstood.

Dreamskies · 19/03/2025 23:10

Anecdotal, but my mum told me a story recently about her friend. Her friend has multiple issues and has also been diagnosed with fibromyalgia as they couldn’t come up with why she had the pain and issues that she has.

recently, her daughter has been told she has hyper mobility in her joints, and the myriad of “symptoms” this can cause (many of which were bizarre and would seem like nothing to do with hyper mobile joints! I’m sure one was eye related!) were often the same as the ones her mum experienced. They also said hyper mobility can be genetic.

So, just a random possibility there for you - hyper mobile joints potentially causing similar symptoms to those being diagnosed as fibromyalgia.

incywincyspiders · 19/03/2025 23:10

Stealthmodemama · 19/03/2025 23:07

Honestly, I think it is a b12 deficiency.

I think knowledge about b12 is woeful and the NHS treatment path is so low -that even when given the amount they do you do not get well - so write of the importance of b12.

I think if your B12 and folic acid level (the two work together) were high enough you would feel well enough to function some of the time

That said most of the folks I have met with fibro are 'stuck' and are not ready to fight to make themselves better.

you do know that we have regular blood tests to determine that our B12 and iron are sufficient? I literally have about 3 blood tests a year..

JanglingJack · 19/03/2025 23:10

eyeoflifehe · 19/03/2025 23:05

Not the same but I was dx with chronic fatigue syndrome 12 years ago and have never accepted that diagnosis, pursued benefits for it or told anyone I have it. I don’t believe cfs is a real thing and that fatigue has real causes that doctors are too lazy to even look at.

How did you overcome the chronic fatigue then?

Do you not think that you may have been one of the 'lucky ones'?

Did you take a lot of speed?

Sorry, its all getting too serious for me!

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:11

incywincyspiders · 19/03/2025 23:08

Haven’t even read all this thread but some of the comments I have read are ableist bullcrap -

signed a person with ME who is LUCKY to be well enough to still be able to work full time.

Same. I’m sat here in tears. I qualified as an airline pilot, £89k later and bam! Diagnosed with Fibromyalgia & ME and career gone. It’s automatically excluded where I am.
But apparently according to these overgrown playground bullies, it’s ‘all in my head so I could make a pip claim” - yeah because PIP really outshines a Pilot salary. 🤨

Sunshineandclearskies · 19/03/2025 23:11

You're really not helping anyone with fibromyalgia, you're so angry you're arguing with someone who was diagnosed with fibromyalgia by a rheumatologist and had to go on disability 🤷‍♀️ I would very much welcome a real diagnosis and what you say about it being a neurological condition and the short google I just did makes perfect sense. I was just like for some sort of research link.

CalleOcho · 19/03/2025 23:11

528htz · 19/03/2025 21:25

There is research that indicates it's probably an autoimmune problem. I used to think I had it because I was in constant pain all over my body, but that went when I changed the type of antidepressant I was on.

I believe it’s linked to autoimmune diseases, more likely in females too.

I’ve many female family members with the diagnosis who also have conditions like Colitis and ankylosing spondylitis.

Dukekaboom · 19/03/2025 23:11

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:04

YES THEY ARE diagnosable via tests now ffs. Fibromyalgia is diagnosed by brain imaging tests. It’s a neurological disorder! Stop this misinformation please

The person I know who has been diagnosed with fibromyalgia did not have any brain imaging tests carried out.

As others have said on this thread, they are a middle aged female with very high BMI and a history of depression and poor mental and physical health. I also believe that the doctors diagnosed this because they had no other answers and wanted to give a diagnosis.

I have to be honest and say this makes me doubt the validity of the diagnosis (whilst not doubting the pain and symptoms). If it's neurological, how are doctors diagnosing it without any form of brain imaging?

farmlife2 · 19/03/2025 23:12

Catpuss66 · 19/03/2025 23:08

But they are women I take it…..80% of autoimmune conditions are in women.

Yes, they are both women.

BrandonFlowersEyesWithEyeliner · 19/03/2025 23:12

MargueriteInBloom · 19/03/2025 22:02

Heart attacks are thought to be linked with stress. Do you what sort of stress you’re under?

Would you say that to someone who has had a heart attack?
Nope?
Then I’d advise you to keep comments like this fir yourself.

And the reason is that MANY illnesses are linked to ‘trauma’ and ACE. But the only ones where it’s touted to be ‘just trauma’ and ‘counselling will help’ are those where diagnosis is assumed to be ‘all in your head’.
Don’t be one of those people.

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to correct you.

Heart attacks are not linked with stress.

They're linked to high cholesterol (particularly LDL/triglycerides) high blood pressure, diabetes obesity and smoking. Having a first degree relative who sustained a heart attack aged under 60 can increase your chances. All of these are risk factors.

Stress doesn't cause heart attacks. It can Contribute to poor coping mechanisms (smoking, poor diet), and raise cortisol but it doesn't cause heart attacks.

It's important not to misinform.

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:13

WatermelonLolly · 19/03/2025 23:10

It can be diagnosed by gps now, I am a rheumatology specialist.

Our trust no longer accept suspected fibromyalgia cases into rheumatology unless they have suspected inflammatory markers. It is heading that way across the country now, uk.

If you really are a Rhuematology specialist then why the absolute FUCK aren’t you defending us on here? You will know yourself for a fact that it’s a neurological disorder so why aren’t you making this clear?

Whateverfloatsyourgoat · 19/03/2025 23:13

HÆLTHEPAIN · 19/03/2025 23:10

You assume it’s mostly psychological based on your anecdotal evidence of 2 people you know.

I beg your pardon?

Checkcheckcheck · 19/03/2025 23:13

I have heard that many people diagnosed with fibromyalgia often end up diagnosed with hyperparathyroidism, a condition where you have a problem with your parathyroid glands and may have raised calcium and/or raised parathyroid hormone. The symptoms for both can be vague - depression, aches and pains, brain fog, fatigue, osteoporosis and sometimes breaking bones.

Sunshineandclearskies · 19/03/2025 23:13

reversegear · 19/03/2025 23:10

From your description that sounds like endometriosis could be playing a part here. The stabbing and tingling, tiredness and also an inflammatory condition vastly misunderstood.

What on earth are you talking about ? I definitely don't have endometriosis, it’s a bit of a leap 😁

BrandonFlowersEyesWithEyeliner · 19/03/2025 23:14

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:13

If you really are a Rhuematology specialist then why the absolute FUCK aren’t you defending us on here? You will know yourself for a fact that it’s a neurological disorder so why aren’t you making this clear?

She's possibly not defending you as fibromyalgia is not a neurological disorder.

It's a functional syndrome.

That's not unkind. It's just a fact

OldCottageGreenhouse · 19/03/2025 23:14

@DukekaboomSo you know better than the World Health Organisation do you? You’d better pop them an email and tell them they’re allllll wrong. Dukekaboom on Mumsnet knows better “coz he sez so”