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If you were abused as a child, how have you moved on from it as an adult, esp when that parent is now older?

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ForestFeast · 16/03/2025 18:33

As a young adult I just tried to keep away as best as possible, left home at 16

Tried to talk to her about it, about 20 years ago,
was my mum, with emotional and some physical abuse.
She just denies it all, amd gaslights tried to rewrite history, then acts like a victim etc
So there's no resolving or even simple, sorry or even her expressing she wishes she hadn't been like that
Guess she denies it to herself
But deep down must know

So fine realised there was no resolving it, so not even mentioned last 20 years

Love my siblings, and thir kids dearly
So imdont want to lose my relationship with them
They didn't experience this abuse, but one of them was thegolden child and I can see that that is actually kinda of damaging in a way for that person too,probably feels guilty for witnessing things that child shouldn't have
Probably carries guilt, and I can see how negatively being the golden child is

Anyway so last 20 years, I've tried to keep an emotional distance, with mum, try not to share anything personal as it will be used against me
There have been times when I've ben sucked in
But she will often use anything to try to hurt me
No idea why she does this

Dad doed a few years ago now

So last 20 years hasn't been too bad I guess I've accepted it
But the past couple of years been challenging due to her ill health and so os many hospital and Dr appointments etc

Amd I'm trying to navigate this time
I dont want to cut her off as I feel that would actually just cause loads of drama and I don't want it to affect the relationships with siblings and their kids
So any tips?
Just finding this stage challenging

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ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 13:50

What would be her reason to try to drag me down ?
figure that out then do the opposite …

or move abroad ! 😂

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OctopusPiano · 17/03/2025 13:57

If you go no/low contact there doesn't have to be a big announcement. You are not looking to 'teach her a lesson'. She will never change. This is for your sanity only. Just be delightful but busy, especially if you have children use them to avoid meeting. Children are doing xyz, they have a cold etc. Delay responding to messages so it sinks in you are not reliable in any 'emergency' (my mum has had terminal cancer for 15 years and counting). Side step out of the relationship so she is forced to focus on others. Invite siblings to meet elsewhere to keep in touch

ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 14:02

Im already low contact and I'm reducing this further into super low contact and i wont be making any announcements
i fully accept she will never change
realised that many many years ago

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Sparklybutold · 17/03/2025 14:04

Estranged from all my family. I have struggled with psych and physical chronic illness throughout adult life. Left previous medical career partly because of past trauma and lack of support/poor mental health. I am now very anxious and check in with private therapy often. It’s completely shaped my life and sadly I know I remain one of many who are forgotten about. No justice but our bodies and minds broken.

Elfidela1980 · 17/03/2025 14:08

‘She needs you more than you need her.’

That’s how I keep a lid on it in my mind. I also recommend therapy!

As to the swipes. You can just say ‘right that’s me away.’ If she says ohhh are you walking out in a huff just say ‘not at all mum, I’d love to stay, but it’s time to go.’

Repeat -

She Needs You More Than You Need Her.

I Can Walk Away.

Some part of us gets trapped forever in the mindset of a child. Usually when the abuse had the maximum damaging effect. There’s likely a bit of your brain that needs help getting out of that. I mean, you won’t immediately by any magic words, I think therapy certainly helps, but in the meantime what you can do is remind yourself daily that you don’t actually need to put up with any of it anymore. It’s amazing what you can do in terms of coping with pressure when you realise you’ve got a choice. When it gets too much - bugger off home! What will actually happen?

The fog (fear obligation and guilt) needs to lift. So in a way there’s still a bit of fear - you love your siblings and your nieces and nephews and that’s why you’re willing to put up with it, in case there’s a rupture with your mum that has a knock-on effect with them. But you don’t need to ever fall out with her. You are quite entitled, as an adult, to say ‘I need to go.’ ‘I can’t do that.’ Start there and see how you get on.

As to the obligation and guilt. You know how reasonable people behave, right? You sound a balanced and sensitive person. So - just don’t join in with the crazy. If she’s playing games, let her. As to responses to the swipes, I have a thing I do where I agree. So-and-so hoovered the whole house? Aw, that’s nice. They’re a nice person aren’t they? Let her try and get her dig in - who cares!

If it’s about your kids, I would be inclined to say ‘I wouldn’t like X to hear you say that. That would hurt her a lot.’ See what she says then. Cos if she escalates, and is trying to start a fight, that’s your chance to say ‘okay - I’ll need to go.’ Personally, if you haven’t done it before, I’d be inclined to do it once or twice and see if she catches on.

To your siblings, you need simply say, Mum was being a bit unkind about one of my kids and I couldn’t see any benefit to continuing the conversation. If they don’t like that, well, let them. And also, let them do the work.

If you don’t like a conversation, don’t have it. If it’s not feeling right for you, just don’t do it. Definitely never do more than you’re comfortable doing. It sounds massively simple but I know it’s hard in practice, especially when you’re physically stuck with them. I have been in a few nightmare scenarios and I actually felt myself turn back into an eleven year old. It was black and desperate. For those, I genuinely don’t know. I don’t have an answer. I probably need to speak to a professional myself about that. Or start a thread of my own. Whatever doesn’t kill you, I suppose. I’m already actively planning how I’ll avoid a repeat though.

For the low-key daily nonsense, I just go bland. ‘Oooh that’s lovely/terrible/whatever.’ I actually don’t mind it as much cos I know my DH and older kids also clock it and and we speak about it later and I tell them ‘well, don’t ever let me get like that.’ I hope to God I’m a better parent. I hope I’ve broken the cycle.

I do remember hearing the folk wisdom that ‘the worse you are as a parent the better you’re treated when you’re old.’ Insofar as it’s somewhat true in my anecdotal experience (it’s not a blanket rule, don’t come at me) I’d say it’s because abused kids turn into adults who are always stuck in that childlike hope that somehow it’ll get better. If you’re nice enough they’ll be nice too. It’s a headwreck, a ball-ache and a fucking living nightmare at times. But if you’re not going to tell them to fuck off, what’s the strategy?

Do your best but remember - they had you, not vice versa. You don’t need to be a whipping boy. She needs you more than you need her. It’s only favours you’re doing her, you’re not her mother.

TLDR; the door swings both ways. Limit your contact to what you can live with at minimal personal cost. Get some mental boundaries up and stick to them. Bland is annoying to agitators and hard to argue with. If it’s really out of line - vote with your feet.

You have my absolute sympathy!

ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 14:10

Sparklybutold · 17/03/2025 14:04

Estranged from all my family. I have struggled with psych and physical chronic illness throughout adult life. Left previous medical career partly because of past trauma and lack of support/poor mental health. I am now very anxious and check in with private therapy often. It’s completely shaped my life and sadly I know I remain one of many who are forgotten about. No justice but our bodies and minds broken.

I’m sorry to hear that, and I’m hoping the next part of your life can be a really good one, to make up for all you’ve been through

childhood abuse really does cause so much damage and hurt
I don’t know what on Earth is wrong with the people that do this kinda stuff, must be some kind of really bad mental health or just plain evil I guess

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Canaryhead · 17/03/2025 14:24

Am in the same boat as you

ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 14:26

Elfidela1980 · 17/03/2025 14:08

‘She needs you more than you need her.’

That’s how I keep a lid on it in my mind. I also recommend therapy!

As to the swipes. You can just say ‘right that’s me away.’ If she says ohhh are you walking out in a huff just say ‘not at all mum, I’d love to stay, but it’s time to go.’

Repeat -

She Needs You More Than You Need Her.

I Can Walk Away.

Some part of us gets trapped forever in the mindset of a child. Usually when the abuse had the maximum damaging effect. There’s likely a bit of your brain that needs help getting out of that. I mean, you won’t immediately by any magic words, I think therapy certainly helps, but in the meantime what you can do is remind yourself daily that you don’t actually need to put up with any of it anymore. It’s amazing what you can do in terms of coping with pressure when you realise you’ve got a choice. When it gets too much - bugger off home! What will actually happen?

The fog (fear obligation and guilt) needs to lift. So in a way there’s still a bit of fear - you love your siblings and your nieces and nephews and that’s why you’re willing to put up with it, in case there’s a rupture with your mum that has a knock-on effect with them. But you don’t need to ever fall out with her. You are quite entitled, as an adult, to say ‘I need to go.’ ‘I can’t do that.’ Start there and see how you get on.

As to the obligation and guilt. You know how reasonable people behave, right? You sound a balanced and sensitive person. So - just don’t join in with the crazy. If she’s playing games, let her. As to responses to the swipes, I have a thing I do where I agree. So-and-so hoovered the whole house? Aw, that’s nice. They’re a nice person aren’t they? Let her try and get her dig in - who cares!

If it’s about your kids, I would be inclined to say ‘I wouldn’t like X to hear you say that. That would hurt her a lot.’ See what she says then. Cos if she escalates, and is trying to start a fight, that’s your chance to say ‘okay - I’ll need to go.’ Personally, if you haven’t done it before, I’d be inclined to do it once or twice and see if she catches on.

To your siblings, you need simply say, Mum was being a bit unkind about one of my kids and I couldn’t see any benefit to continuing the conversation. If they don’t like that, well, let them. And also, let them do the work.

If you don’t like a conversation, don’t have it. If it’s not feeling right for you, just don’t do it. Definitely never do more than you’re comfortable doing. It sounds massively simple but I know it’s hard in practice, especially when you’re physically stuck with them. I have been in a few nightmare scenarios and I actually felt myself turn back into an eleven year old. It was black and desperate. For those, I genuinely don’t know. I don’t have an answer. I probably need to speak to a professional myself about that. Or start a thread of my own. Whatever doesn’t kill you, I suppose. I’m already actively planning how I’ll avoid a repeat though.

For the low-key daily nonsense, I just go bland. ‘Oooh that’s lovely/terrible/whatever.’ I actually don’t mind it as much cos I know my DH and older kids also clock it and and we speak about it later and I tell them ‘well, don’t ever let me get like that.’ I hope to God I’m a better parent. I hope I’ve broken the cycle.

I do remember hearing the folk wisdom that ‘the worse you are as a parent the better you’re treated when you’re old.’ Insofar as it’s somewhat true in my anecdotal experience (it’s not a blanket rule, don’t come at me) I’d say it’s because abused kids turn into adults who are always stuck in that childlike hope that somehow it’ll get better. If you’re nice enough they’ll be nice too. It’s a headwreck, a ball-ache and a fucking living nightmare at times. But if you’re not going to tell them to fuck off, what’s the strategy?

Do your best but remember - they had you, not vice versa. You don’t need to be a whipping boy. She needs you more than you need her. It’s only favours you’re doing her, you’re not her mother.

TLDR; the door swings both ways. Limit your contact to what you can live with at minimal personal cost. Get some mental boundaries up and stick to them. Bland is annoying to agitators and hard to argue with. If it’s really out of line - vote with your feet.

You have my absolute sympathy!

Thanks for all that advice
I think I’ll have to repeat to myself “you’re just an extra, abit part character”
i don’t think I can repeat the saying you need me more than I need you as th at was one of her exact saying to me as a child when she would be in one of her ignoring you phases
the silent treatment and ignoring that would go on for sometimes weeks
that was hideous as a young child

that’s one thing I’ve never accepted as an adult
any partners that do silent treatment as. That’s triggering to me
luckily dh is not like that in the slightest
never once given me the silent treatment

you are 100 percent spot on regarding the fog

i could do with reminding myslef to also give some non committal replies like oh right …. While sounding very uninterested

I’ve grown so much esp since the last 20 years but I can see this is still something I still have to over coming even more than I already have

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ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 14:27

Canaryhead · 17/03/2025 14:24

Am in the same boat as you

I’m so sorry, others understand what is like, but I hope we can all get ideas and tips on how to keep going forward
and we understand we are not alone

it wasn’t little us.
it was them and there weirdness and bitterness

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ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 14:35
  • That's an interesting way of looking at it."
  • "Never really thought about it."
  • "That's something to think about."
  • "There's no good answer to that."
  • "I'll have to check my Magic 8-ball."
  • "If I knew the answer to that I'd be rich."
  • "We can always wonder."
  • "Why do you ask?"
  • "Well what do YOU think?"
  • "I wish I knew."
  • "I haven't decided yet."
  • "If that ever becomes any of your business, I'll let you know."
  • "I guess we'll find out."
  • "I don't talk about that."
  • "I'll think about it."
  • "Well he/she always says nice things about YOU."
  • "This falls in my IDGAF Zone."
  • "I wish I cared, but I don't."
  • "You don't pay me enough to answer questions like that."
  • "Still not enough..."

googled some ways to response rather than just hmmm
or oh right ……

might be hlepful for others
such as

i haven’t decided yet
or I haven’t really thought about it

but loving this falls into my IDGIF zone

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Happyinarcon · 17/03/2025 14:38

Heres something I learnt, you have to see your mum as the angry toddler and yourself as the parent. Somewhere inside her is a damaged little kid so frozen in trauma that she will never get chance to heal. You on the other hand will have chance to heal. She resorts to tantrums and abuse to offload emotions she can’t deal with because she genuinely has no choice, it’s all that she knows and her conscience is clear.
The weird thing is, to begin to treat her with patience and compassion, you have to give up on the idea of ever forming a healthy mother daughter relationship, which actually feels awful to do. You kind of have to give up on authenticity, because your mum can’t meet you there. It’s a difficult journey, but my mother is 80 and I am only now starting to see her with compassion as a broken child, as opposed to an abusive terrifying adult.

AcquadiP · 17/03/2025 14:49

Sicario · 17/03/2025 10:10

I never planned to go NC. It just happened one day. I was at my mother's house and something just snapped inside me. I walked out, never went back, and never saw or spoke to her again. She died a few years later. I felt nothing but relief. In fact, I realised some time later that I never loved her. It was just trauma bonding.

I also went NC with my siblings. Haven't seen or spoken to them for years now. I have no intention of going back.

The thing with fucked up families is that everybody is part of the screwed-up dynamic. I was the family punch bag. Physical and emotional.

I don't regret my decision for a moment and my life is so much better without them.

This is me also. I tried every which way to have some semblance of a normal mother-daughter relationship with my mother but it was wasted time. Eventually, I too went NC. Unfortunately, it cost me my relationship with my siblings as my mother went into full on 'victim' mode whilst simultaneously trying to assassinate my character with the wider family for the next 30 years, (I never said anything about her to anyone.) She succeeded with some family members but others simply cut contact with her too. I learnt recently that she'd passed away. Initially I felt sad that we'd never been close but that was then replaced by relief. That woman has cast such a dark shadow over my entire life and now it's finally over.

ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 15:49

Happyinarcon · 17/03/2025 14:38

Heres something I learnt, you have to see your mum as the angry toddler and yourself as the parent. Somewhere inside her is a damaged little kid so frozen in trauma that she will never get chance to heal. You on the other hand will have chance to heal. She resorts to tantrums and abuse to offload emotions she can’t deal with because she genuinely has no choice, it’s all that she knows and her conscience is clear.
The weird thing is, to begin to treat her with patience and compassion, you have to give up on the idea of ever forming a healthy mother daughter relationship, which actually feels awful to do. You kind of have to give up on authenticity, because your mum can’t meet you there. It’s a difficult journey, but my mother is 80 and I am only now starting to see her with compassion as a broken child, as opposed to an abusive terrifying adult.

Gave up on that hope of a normal relationship many years ago
Your views seem similar to what Oprah thinjs about her mum

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ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 15:50

AcquadiP · 17/03/2025 14:49

This is me also. I tried every which way to have some semblance of a normal mother-daughter relationship with my mother but it was wasted time. Eventually, I too went NC. Unfortunately, it cost me my relationship with my siblings as my mother went into full on 'victim' mode whilst simultaneously trying to assassinate my character with the wider family for the next 30 years, (I never said anything about her to anyone.) She succeeded with some family members but others simply cut contact with her too. I learnt recently that she'd passed away. Initially I felt sad that we'd never been close but that was then replaced by relief. That woman has cast such a dark shadow over my entire life and now it's finally over.

Yes I've wondered how I'll feel when that day comes...

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ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 15:51

I think if she had a bit of a life for herself like with friends and stuff she'd be a happier person, but she can't resist being spiteful....

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Notaflippinclue · 17/03/2025 17:10

Just make sure you break the cycle - do better by your own children - I never understand why the abused often become abusers themselves

ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 18:01

Notaflippinclue · 17/03/2025 17:10

Just make sure you break the cycle - do better by your own children - I never understand why the abused often become abusers themselves

I'd never ever want them to feel that way and and never ever want to hurt them or end up with basically a non relationship with them

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Lollypop701 · 17/03/2025 18:16

I found the yes mum works… I can’t remember phrases

mum says dsis kids are the best … maybe I’d say just as well I love them with a big smile. if she asked what I meant I’d just repeat what she said.. yes mum dsis kids are very grown up/great at maths/ beautiful and I love mine just the way they are. Yes mum dsis helps you a lot glad that makes you happy/ yes mum dsis dh is a great husband so glad she’s happy. Dsis is the greatest thing since sliced bread and her kids will win the Nobel prize .. yes mum isn’t that great.

just repeat back what she says and signal agreement… it’s a bit like saying I’m sorry you feel like that… means Jack shit in reality .

have to say mine is a slightly better situation… whoever isn’t there is the best child so when my siblings show up they get told how goi am 😂

ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 18:33

Feeling better for this chat, tomorrow , I shall blow dry my hair, spritz some perfume on and start the day afresh

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ForestFeast · 17/03/2025 18:33

Thank you to you all for listening and chatting

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Goditsmemargaret · 07/08/2025 18:55

Awhhhh OP I'm sorry you went through all that. Yes I think it's abuse, neglect is considered abuse for one. I'm not convinced it's extreme abuse.

I understand what you mean by not wanting to consider yourself an abuse victim.

Big hugs. Be kind to yourself.

dialfor · 07/08/2025 19:05

Goditsmemargaret · 07/08/2025 18:55

Awhhhh OP I'm sorry you went through all that. Yes I think it's abuse, neglect is considered abuse for one. I'm not convinced it's extreme abuse.

I understand what you mean by not wanting to consider yourself an abuse victim.

Big hugs. Be kind to yourself.

Have you posted on this thread by accident?

Goditsmemargaret · 07/08/2025 23:05

dialfor · 07/08/2025 19:05

Have you posted on this thread by accident?

Yes! Sorry... How odd though, I don't even recognise this thread.

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