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Why are people using "his" instead of "he's"?

85 replies

Mydadsbirthday · 09/03/2025 11:52

What fresh hell is this?

Why can people not read and write any more?

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Luluissleeping · 09/03/2025 12:56

Oh and don't get me started on there/their.

Words · 09/03/2025 12:58

Awful.

Because they sound vaguely similar?

I've noticed 'probable' for 'probably' quite a bit recently.

There's a young presenter on the World Service who pronounces 'said' as 'sayed' and 'agreement' as 'AGG ruh ment'.

Someone should step in. The Beeb has a small but brilliant team of linguistic experts who advise on pronunciation.

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 12:58

Luluissleeping · 09/03/2025 12:55

I see alot, abit, incase, etc and it irritates me.

OMG, yes. Especially "alot". I think that's especially prominent because alot is a word (it just doesn't mean "a lot") so the autocorrect waves it through!

Wendolino · 09/03/2025 13:04

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 09/03/2025 12:18

Isn't it that people just aren't taught to spell properly any more? DH went to a posh school and had letter-writing lessons. I didn't. In fact I only learnt the difference between it's and its when I went on an editing course. So until someone told me that its is like his and hers, I had no idea. Plus the stupid phone always thinks it knows better.

When my son was in year 2 I noticed he was spelling a lot of words wrongly and the teacher never corrected him. I mentioned it at parents' evening and she said spelling didn't matter as long as they got the first letter right. I told her she was wrong and that poor spelling gives a bad impression. I know I wasn't the only one to bring it up.

MaryGreenhill · 09/03/2025 13:09

Lazyitis

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 09/03/2025 13:11

Genral sheer iggerance, innit.

shewasasaint · 09/03/2025 13:29

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 12:58

OMG, yes. Especially "alot". I think that's especially prominent because alot is a word (it just doesn't mean "a lot") so the autocorrect waves it through!

When is 'alot' a word?

NameChangedOfc · 09/03/2025 13:31

Because of low standards in education.

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 09/03/2025 13:32

Mydadsbirthday · 09/03/2025 12:05

If it was an accent thing, it wouldn't be a recent thing so I don't buy that.

It's probably speech to text yes or just a general decline of standards in this country

Is it so recent though or simply proliferated via use of social media and therefore seen written down in a way it wouldn't have been in the past? There are AI tools that create subtitles on videos on SM too and frequently get things wrong. Those tools are still learning.

Isthiswhatmenthink · 09/03/2025 14:12

Poor education and a lack of reading. If people read more, spelling would improve immeasurably across the board.

MaggieBsBoat · 09/03/2025 14:14

Most writing on videos is speech to text software and the videomaker is to lazy to check or lacks the knowledge to correct it. I guess the former is more likely.

BarneyRonson · 09/03/2025 14:16

English language isn’t loved or respected as it was previously. It will continue degrading till all nuance is eradicated.

notprincehamlet · 09/03/2025 14:37

Grammar's gone the same way as science, statesmanship, international law and reality

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 14:43

shewasasaint · 09/03/2025 13:29

When is 'alot' a word?

"Allot" means to distribute a share.
Just had to double check the spelling and 2 Ls is correct, but my autocorrect does not try to correct "Alot", so I wonder if that is the US spelling of Allot. Does anyone know?

shewasasaint · 09/03/2025 14:51

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 14:43

"Allot" means to distribute a share.
Just had to double check the spelling and 2 Ls is correct, but my autocorrect does not try to correct "Alot", so I wonder if that is the US spelling of Allot. Does anyone know?

I knew 'allot' as a word but thought there must be another with the 'alot' spelling when you said it was a word.
It seems not though.

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 14:55

shewasasaint · 09/03/2025 14:51

I knew 'allot' as a word but thought there must be another with the 'alot' spelling when you said it was a word.
It seems not though.

Indeed it seems not.
I am as thick as pigshit, evidently.

shewasasaint · 09/03/2025 15:04

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 14:55

Indeed it seems not.
I am as thick as pigshit, evidently.

Not at all. A lot (!) is autocorrected to the US spelling. It's a reasonable assumption.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 09/03/2025 15:12

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 12:54

I see "his gorgeous hun" on social media posts quite often.

It makes me wince though like another poster my peri brain fog sometimes leads me to make mistakes when not concentrating that would have horrified me 5 years ago, like muddling to and too. I was writing a note by hand a few days ago and genuinely couldn't remember if acquire had a "c" and had to check. Someone pulled me up yesterday on mumsnet for saying risk adverse instead of risk averse. I know averse is correct but I still must have typed it out wrong without realising!

I had been irritated earlier that day by someone referring to their "sister in laws" but stopped myself correcting them and I was quite glad I hadn't! Some mistakes are genuine slip-ups.

But if this is a safe space for moans (I know we also have Pedants' Corner) these persistent ones also make me twitch:
Free reign
Per say
Step foot
Clicky (instead of cliquey)
Pack lunch
Needs gone etc (is including "to be" really so hard?
Here here
Great full
Your (though some people overcompensate and put you're where your would actually be correct)
On suite/On route
Myself/Yourself used as a primary pronoun
Greengrocer apostrophes.

Aaah, I feel better now.

Are you me?
A bit less basic, I know, but I’d add ‘disinterested’ when they mean ‘uninterested’, and discreet/discrete.

Eightdayz · 09/03/2025 15:22

It's annoying for sure. Same as people who say could of instead of could have.

Although let's not forget that everyone didn't have the PRIVILEGE of a good education.

I couldn't get worked up over this tbh

Newyorklady · 09/03/2025 15:26

Poor use of English.
it’s something that really annoys me.

Printedword · 09/03/2025 15:37

There's also spellcheck/predicted text tripping people up. Try typing 'ill' without it trying to change it to 'I'll'.

Earlier I saw that someone couldn't 'bare' something 🤣

Announcers on TV are my pet pedant pronunciation hate. 'Aye' when it's 'a' and 'Th' all the time, forgetting it's sometimes pronounced 'thee'. Possibly Americanisation.

gollyimholly · 09/03/2025 15:42

I don't think it's laziness. I think it's 100% to do with lack of literacy. The people that do it simply do not know the difference between his and he's and are using them interchangeably. Also agree with a PP who said it's because the people that write like this, don't read and so they write what they hear.

gollyimholly · 09/03/2025 15:45

honeylulu · 09/03/2025 12:54

I see "his gorgeous hun" on social media posts quite often.

It makes me wince though like another poster my peri brain fog sometimes leads me to make mistakes when not concentrating that would have horrified me 5 years ago, like muddling to and too. I was writing a note by hand a few days ago and genuinely couldn't remember if acquire had a "c" and had to check. Someone pulled me up yesterday on mumsnet for saying risk adverse instead of risk averse. I know averse is correct but I still must have typed it out wrong without realising!

I had been irritated earlier that day by someone referring to their "sister in laws" but stopped myself correcting them and I was quite glad I hadn't! Some mistakes are genuine slip-ups.

But if this is a safe space for moans (I know we also have Pedants' Corner) these persistent ones also make me twitch:
Free reign
Per say
Step foot
Clicky (instead of cliquey)
Pack lunch
Needs gone etc (is including "to be" really so hard?
Here here
Great full
Your (though some people overcompensate and put you're where your would actually be correct)
On suite/On route
Myself/Yourself used as a primary pronoun
Greengrocer apostrophes.

Aaah, I feel better now.

Draws instead of drawers

Goody2ShoesAndTheFilthyBeast · 09/03/2025 15:45

Needtosoundoffandbreathe · 09/03/2025 13:32

Is it so recent though or simply proliferated via use of social media and therefore seen written down in a way it wouldn't have been in the past? There are AI tools that create subtitles on videos on SM too and frequently get things wrong. Those tools are still learning.

Edited

It's not recent no, spellings varied a lot between regions before standardised spelling in I think the 15th or 16th century. There's a guy on YouTube, robwords, who did a piece on it if I remember rightly.

Scrabsqueak · 09/03/2025 15:47

I pronounce said as sayd . It’s an Edinburgh pronunciation.
(Don’t pronounce agreement that way though)