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Thread 19 Starmer - A Coalition of the Willing

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DuncinToffee · 03/03/2025 08:25

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Llttledrummergirl · 04/03/2025 18:21

Mine was for personal attacks. I questioned it and sent the dictionary definition of what I'd written. It was then amended to goading. Interestingly, the post was still up and they only took it down after I helpfully (on purpose), told them it was still there.

There was no thank you though for letting them know. Stamps feet and cries about it. Grin

dontcallmelen · 04/03/2025 19:00

The sainted Kemi has reverted back to type I see, over promoted mean spirited spiteful full of bile gobshite, who the fuck does Vance think he is I’m beyond furious with his statement regarding our armed services how disrespectful the fucking graceless Neanderthal.
sending comforting hug for those among us who have been told off

DuncinToffee · 04/03/2025 19:03

Even Marine le Pen has condemned the brutality of the US decision to hold aid to Ukraine

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PandoraSox · 04/03/2025 19:07

I got a "mumsnet calling" email recently too.

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:11

I wonder if I’ve got one? I can’t access the email account MNHQ has so have no idea. No deletions 🤞 for ages so probably not. I’m finding it quite difficult to work out what does and doesn’t contravene the guidelines these days, they’re so open to interpretation.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 04/03/2025 19:15

I was put on the naughty step and was briefly banned about a year ago.
I've tried to behave since.
Write out 100 times
I must not mock distinguished posters.

cardibach · 04/03/2025 19:16

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:11

I wonder if I’ve got one? I can’t access the email account MNHQ has so have no idea. No deletions 🤞 for ages so probably not. I’m finding it quite difficult to work out what does and doesn’t contravene the guidelines these days, they’re so open to interpretation.

They don’t tell you about deletions now. I asked because the letter suggested more than one. They listed 3. I did suggest people would find it easier to adjust their behaviour if they at least knew it wasn’t appropriate.

edit: all 3 were news to me because you don5 scroll back to your own old posts.

Piggywaspushed · 04/03/2025 19:17

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 04/03/2025 19:15

I was put on the naughty step and was briefly banned about a year ago.
I've tried to behave since.
Write out 100 times
I must not mock distinguished posters.

LOL! I see what you did!

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:18

I don’t understand why the communication is by email. Surely PM would be easier?

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 04/03/2025 19:19

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:18

I don’t understand why the communication is by email. Surely PM would be easier?

PM is turned off at the moment.
And if you are banned you wouldn't get a PM even if it was working.

Rummly · 04/03/2025 19:19

Not that I have any need to, but as I made clear a few weeks ago that reports about posters on these threads were nothing to do with me, I’ll update that and say that none of the ‘tellings off’ people have been getting are anything to do with me either.

I regard reports of that sort as absolutely pathetic. It’s as if adults become like 6-year-olds crying to teacher.

I’ve been deleted before because of stupid, childish reports. I sympathise.

cardibach · 04/03/2025 19:21

You do come across as someone able to look after herself, @Rummly , and not be upset by others. And that’s a compliment, not an attack if anyone else is looking.

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:22

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 04/03/2025 19:19

PM is turned off at the moment.
And if you are banned you wouldn't get a PM even if it was working.

I didn’t realise PM was turned off or that there was no warning. I must have been very good recently!

Piggywaspushed · 04/03/2025 19:23

I think some things definitely should be reported and deleted - racism, all the phobias, vicious attacks, doxxing.

The definition of personal attack seems very vague so I think it gets deleted if the person attacked reports it - some of it, after all, is in their perception. If I say I have been attacked, my feelings are valid, and all that. But my doubts are over whether some of the reporting is just vindictive.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 04/03/2025 19:26

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:22

I didn’t realise PM was turned off or that there was no warning. I must have been very good recently!

I understand that the sick bastards posting CSA images started sending them as PMs, hence the block. Haven't seen an MNHQ announcement though.

Rummly · 04/03/2025 19:27

cardibach · 04/03/2025 19:21

You do come across as someone able to look after herself, @Rummly , and not be upset by others. And that’s a compliment, not an attack if anyone else is looking.

Thank you. I do take that as a compliment.

But I doubt I’m more robust than any of the regulars here. I just think that people shouldn’t go on chat forums if they can’t put up with the cattier, sharper or more overbearing sorts without knocking on the staff room door clutching tear-stained tissues.

DuncinToffee · 04/03/2025 19:28

Previews are back for links now

Just checked my emails, I have been good Halo

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Rummly · 04/03/2025 19:29

Piggywaspushed · 04/03/2025 19:23

I think some things definitely should be reported and deleted - racism, all the phobias, vicious attacks, doxxing.

The definition of personal attack seems very vague so I think it gets deleted if the person attacked reports it - some of it, after all, is in their perception. If I say I have been attacked, my feelings are valid, and all that. But my doubts are over whether some of the reporting is just vindictive.

I agree. That’s why I said “reports of that sort”. Some posts have to be reported, as you say, not least because some are unlawful.

PandoraSox · 04/03/2025 19:39

I didn't think it was you either Rummly. Just some bog standard lurkers who like to follow some of us around, I think.

DuncinToffee · 04/03/2025 19:42

PandoraSox · 04/03/2025 19:39

I didn't think it was you either Rummly. Just some bog standard lurkers who like to follow some of us around, I think.

Same

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itsgettingweird · 04/03/2025 20:12

BIossomtoes · 04/03/2025 19:11

I wonder if I’ve got one? I can’t access the email account MNHQ has so have no idea. No deletions 🤞 for ages so probably not. I’m finding it quite difficult to work out what does and doesn’t contravene the guidelines these days, they’re so open to interpretation.

I was wondering the same as I don't access the email account for MN. It's purely one I made during the 2015 hacking. I use the app.

I don't think I've been deleted - but as I don't read threads backwards I can't be sure 😵‍💫🧐

itsgettingweird · 04/03/2025 20:14

Rummley I didn't for one minute suspect you!!! You'd just say it 😂😂😂

BIWI · 04/03/2025 20:58

I think the standard of moderation on MN has declined massively over the last few years. No idea why, although I suspect that it’s to do with several factors, that combine together to create a less-than-satisfactory approach to warning/deleting/banning.

For a start, the current crop of mods (with the exception of the outstanding Dawn) don’t ever seem to engage with the MN ‘community’. I remember - back when it were all fields - that it really did feel like a community. Those days are long since gone. But when the mods were a part of the conversations, they ‘got’ what people were posting about. They were able, therefore, to understand the broader context and nuances of posts.

Now, it seems to me, anything that gets reported gets a fairly cursory inspection. Actually, ‘inspection’ seems to be too complimentary a word. I suspect that there is too small a mod team and too many threads/posts, which won’t help, and which means that the mods don’t really have the time to read and really think about the whole thread, the context in which it’s being written and - therefore - why a poster or posters may be posting as they do.

And, frankly, I don’t think they care any more.

<awaits deletion>

BIWI · 04/03/2025 21:00

And I don’t think it’s you either, @Rummly. We may have had our differences, but I respect the fact that you will say it how you say it, and will be up front with your views, rather than ‘sneaking’ round the back, as it were!

Llttledrummergirl · 04/03/2025 21:07

@Rummly for the record, I don't think it's you either. I may disagree with you on many things, and sometimes you seem rather combatative when perhaps a softer approach would get your message through quicker, but, I believe you are as much a real person with genuine thoughts as I, and the vast majority (barring visitors that come and go) of other posters on this thread.

I do report posts, but they tend to be the one trick pony kind that can't back up their discussion points with fact. I don't think it's those without an agenda who are reporting.

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