I’m a PIP assessor - is there anything I can help you with?

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Please let me know if I can help

Why do people with genetic degenerative illnesses, or severe conditions such a permanent paralysis have to keep going through review, attempts not to pay and then appeals in a regular basis?

The condition will never improve and is likely to get worse over time, where is the value in the review?

People unable to successfully advocate for themselves are harmed by the process

I have ME/CFS and I'm very dizzy. It's a feeling of being drunk and unbalanced except I don't really have balance problems. How can I provide evidence? I would appreciate any ideas you may have .

All these people asking questions, the OP isn’t coming back. Sorry.

Thanks @PIPnamechanged

just for 1 hand? You kidding?

I am no expert on any of this, but the most that they could do is remove a persons award, they can't force someone who is so sick that they can't function, to a 'normal' standard, or have certain disabilities into the workplace. Some people will always be too affected by whatever it is, to work, imo.

That is what happens to a lot of people, from what I have read. They are either frightened of the process, harming their already fragility, so do not apply in the first place, or not having the strength to appeal a rejection. It cannot be easy having to go to the tribunal.

but those who know how to work the system, tell that to the medical professionals first, and so it continues.

If you don't have balance problems, then what do you need evidence for? I take it that you have medical evidence of your ME/CFS though, from GP records.

Did you miss where she is pointing out the difficulties that this is causing her? It is about how xyz condition affects a person, in their day, to day life.

Because mental health issues can make it impossible for some people to travel by public transport.
An allowance to pay for taxis can make the difference between someone being able to attend appointments including medical and therapy appointments and possibly improve their situation and someone having to stay indoors all day every day with no hope of improvement

I really don't think that it is that simple. They would have had to engage with the system even in order to collate evidence, such as engaging in therapy, medication, etc. They have to be showing that they have tried certain steps, they cannot just say a few things, and start being paid.

I see this thread had exactly the reactions, lies and ableism that the op was hoping for. Well done op.

I’ll just add (while I have 5 mins) that the general public are not privy to a lot of the information that makes or breaks a decision. Not because it’s a secret, it’s just not widely shared.

For example, tribunals do work differently from the first assessment. They consider things that we aren’t able to. You can debate the wrongs or rights, but that’s the fact.

So blanket statements about the high percentage of appeals being successful showing a flaw in our (the first assessor) work aren’t necessarily true. Nor is the claim that we have medical helpers available. We are the medical helper.

You also need to factor in that many people, after being turned down or getting a lower award than they feel they should, then submit screeds of evidence that wasn’t available to that first assessor. We are only able to go on what is available, and very often, that’s zero documentation.

It took me years to get PIP, as a disabled wheelchair user with multiple chronic illnesses, a spinal injury, five severe, diagnosed mental illnesses and being completely confined to bed for five years.

If you think someone is going to get PIP for sore skin on their hand, I just don't have the words.

Yup, and I was deleted and threatened a ban via email for pointing it out.

I feel like I’m drunk.

Yes I have doctors letters, of course. I was wondering if you had seen a particularly compelling ways of providing evidence for this.

Eh? Where did I say that she would. It may just be sore skin to you, and that other poster, but try reading what she actually wrote.

Loving the irony that the op posts three times, doesn’t help anyone and then wanders off and leaves the thread

Like that old meme where the little girl is smirking to the camera as a huge house burns behind her.

In that case, the answer is no, why would I? You have evidence for the other things that you mention, having loss of balance could very well be a common symptom of that, for all I know.

@dizzydizzydizzy if you have evidence from HCPs e.g. clinic letter, GP notes, you can use that.

tribunals do work differently from the first assessment. They consider things that we aren’t able to. You can debate the wrongs or rights, but that’s the fact.

And this is part of the problem. It isn’t the individual assessor’s fault their training is poor &/or they feel unable to adhere to the actual rules because of pressure from above, but it is a wider problem that exists. Initial decisions should not be made in an unlawful way.

You also need to factor in that many people…then submit screeds of evidence that wasn’t available to that first assessor.

This is also part of the issue. There is nothing stopping DWP conceding, as they sometimes do but not as often as they should, when further evidence is submitted.

I know!. This is just a stealth benefit bashing thread.

I wondered this @Chewbecca

i know of a couple of people who lie lie lie as exaggerate their pain /symptoms and what they can’t do and play the mental health card

and get pip and high rate

disgusting

pil and dla is amazing and a godsend for those who deserve it and hope all on here who are struggling to claim get accepted

FFS! 😂😂