How would you feel about this on a plane

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Couple made to sit next to a dead body of a lady who died onboard

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@allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld

I have been on a plane to oz where the passenger across the aisle needed continues o2 therapy after the first 30 minutes of flight. that woman should not have ever been on a plane

That sort of thing is simply something that happens, even to people who have never had a problem flying before and have no known medical conditions.

I think airlines should ask to see evidence of insurance before someone is allowed to fly with any health conditions

Problem is how do the airlines police that?

Someone who is honest about a condition will try and get pre-clearance, that’s a service offered by most airlines, e.g.

www.britishairways.com/content/information/travel-assistance/medical-conditions-and-pregnancy

Someone who has a condition that they know might cause in flight problems is going to keep quiet about it.

But can you imagine boarding a fully laden A380 and checking travel insurance docs. It takes long enough to board as it is. Plus unlike passports, travel insurance docs, some electronic, some paper, are all different. Mine is a small book and very difficult to tell if it is out of date.

l know you mentioned about honest people getting pre-clearance, but how? Again the technology is there for passports. And what about those who don’t declare?

How much staff training, checking time and resources would this take.

@notimagain she actually came onto the plane in a disabled access chair. she obviously, just by looking at her with a nurse eye, had major lung problems!! the way she was breathing and the sound of her breathing was horrendous, and that was before take off!

Ok… but are you saying that people with certain medical conditions should not be allowed to fly? Not because of the risk to them but because of the inconvenience to other passengers?

@SheilaFentiman I am saying that people should use their common sense. that seemed to be severely lacking in the case of the lady sitting across from me!

Hi..I'm not quite sure why the "But"..at the start.Just to be clear I 'm pretty much in agreement with all of your points.

The crew can decide whether they feel someone is well enough to fly when they board. I’ve been on a few flights where people were offloaded. At the end of the day, our medical training is fairly basic and we’ve got to be able to deal with situations ourselves.

If someone had had something contagious onboard you would be contacted by Port Health. Putting someone behind a curtain wouldn’t particularly help from an infection aspect with all the recycled air. Aircraft are filthy things, full of germs anyway. I often wondered how they got away with it. I have a tiny little converted horse trailer coffee shop nowadays and an aircraft would not get a decent health and safety rating if it had the checks that my trailer has to have. 🤢. When I flew I got very few colds and bugs - because I was exposed to so many I got immune!

If the lady arrived in a wheelchair then at
Least some pre-warning of the airline has taken place.

At some airlines you can pre-notify that you might need oxygen in flight ( even is some cases bring your own)...

Apparently they tried to move the deceased away from other passengers but couldn't as it was a larger person and the body couldnt be manouvered.
I'm unsure why the passenger wasnt moved away from the deceased person. Surely until the cause of death is established it could have been something contagious and put himand his wife at risk!

@Honeyroar

The crew can decide whether they feel someone is well enough to fly when they board. I’ve been on a few flights where people were offloaded.

Yep and likewise seen offloads etc.

Top tip - don't arrive at the aircraft door with a previously unannounced.medical condition and then tell the crew that because of that condition you actually need more room than your economy seat provides...

Neither am I 😀. Call it morning brain!

That would be classed as disability discrimination and is illegal.

The Equality Act is not a magic wand that makes miracles happen. Some situations simply can't be adjusted for, no matter how much will is there.

Take the trivial case of a wheelchair user trying to find a dentist.

Agree it isn’t a magic wand, but if airlines had à documented policy that was discriminatory, I would imagine that would get challenged.

That would likely be a safety v discrimination argument. Interpretation of the law is a matter for the courts.

This wasn't my aisle when I was working but I suspect something like wheelchair to seat and oxygen in flight would be regarded as fairly trivial adjustement as long as it was prebooked and didn't effect cabin service..

For info and as some will know the US is quite hot on this:

https://www.adapacific.org/air-travel-rights-for-people-with-disabilities/#:~:text=About%20the%20Air%20Carrier%20Access%20Act&text=With%20some%20exceptions%2C%20airlines%20may,with%20disabilities%20on%20a%20flight.

Thanks @notimagain

How is this even a news story? This has been going on for decades. If somebody dies on a full aeroplane, where is the body meant to go? People just love to find a reason to complain and sadly the media encourages these non-stories.

But it was ok to have them come in contact with the person made to sit next to them?

They were a larger person. They could have flopped over during manoeuvres as they had no capacity to stay upright.

That makes it even weirder that they couldn't wheel her to a business class cabin.

Oh, the delicious Schadenfreude…

I am afraid you haven’t read carefully enough. That poster was talking about her own experience on a long haul flight with a passenger who needed oxygen. She wasn’t talking about this news story.

@SheilaFentiman

Oh, the delicious Schadenfreude…
Not really
Not particularly a schadenfreude situation 🫤

Not particularly a situation for repeated sarcastic 👏 either, but here we are.

Have a lovely day.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y44z9z67po

Latest update from a mainstream news outlet. Seems that a crew member sat by the body throughout the flight; odd how the couple didn't mention that in their interview,

@SheilaFentiman
Not particularly a situation for repeated sarcastic 👏 either, but here we are.
Where is the sarcasm.
Are you ok? You are using words that are not appropriate for the situation. It's like you are sticking your finger in the dictionary and using random words that don't work in the sentence.