Heart attacks/disease in younger age groups rising?

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I was just reading about this, which seems to have gained more awareness since the pandemic. A 30% increase in heart issues in people aged 25-44.

According to the BHF, this is likely connected to poor diet, GP access and lack of intervention from government (+austerity), since there has been a sharp rise as of 2012.

What do you think might be contributing? I had no idea about this previously so am a bit shocked. One link suggested more smoking/vaping, but surely there are less young people doing that today than 40 yrs ago?

You often hear about how health/fitness focussed younger generations are, how they are boozing less than my own gen X did (!!!), yet something appears to be wrong.

Any thoughts?

As a supplement, I can't locate any warnings or issues. And especially if your doc agrees then I would carry on as you are.
My DP has AF so will mention this for him to look at.

This caught my eye, and I wonder if you or anyone else with the knowledge know if magnesium Taurate is related in any way to Taurine (in a dangerous way)?

Magnesium Taurate does contain Taurine.

The studies regarding bowel cancer seem to be focused on energy drinks containing taurine and how they may impact gut bacteria in a way that makes bowel cancer more likely (particularly in people under 50). But remember - this is all theoretical and no causal relationship has been established.

I know that taurine is purported to have health benefits as well, so probably something worth discussing with your doctor.

But I'd definitely avoid the energy drinks as it hardly seems worth the risk.

(I am not a Doctor)

I’m in my late 20s. Lots of coffee and energy drinks is the norm amongst my age group, as is vaping.

I know so many people who have never smoked, who vape very often!

The mag taurate I take was not prescribed, I tried it having read of the positive experiences of those who took it on an Afib group on FB, which is mostly US based. I was having breakthrough flutters and while they still happen now and then, they are much less frequent since taking the Taurate supplement.

I mentioned it to the cardiologist and he just shrugged and said, if it works, that's great. So I keep taking it.

Colon cancer too.

I have a colleague in their 20s who gave themselves a "heart event" from massive energy drink consumption. 3 days on the heart ward as a young, not overweight man gave him the shock of his life.

This statistic comes from a US based paper so it only looks at US deaths - and n=c.3,000 in terms of approx annual deaths of 25-44 year olds from heart attacks, so we're talking about that now being around 3,900, so not a big change really in absolute terms. As perspective, in the decade from March 2012-March 2022, there were 1.5m deaths from heart attacks in the US and only 30,000 were in people aged 25-44. The paper's purpose is to compare immediate aftermath of pandemic with decade preceding it and so suggesting that these excesses are actually covid related.

Paper available free via Google Scholar if anyone interested.

Poor diet and lack of exercise (people on their phones or gaming/TV all the time). Look at old beach photos of people in 70s/80s and the majority are slim - not nowadays.

None of our DCs flatmates can cook and a couple have "gamers" bodies and are overweight. Only 1 out of the 10 does any active sport. I do fear a generation that die before their parents.

That’s obviously not giving them heart attacks before 44 though?

There is a massive amount of cack posted on this thread

How rude, I think the poster has very valid points

being overweight increases the risk of heart attacks at any age

You think that the significant rise is down to steroid use and over training? Seriously? This is such a teeny tiny % of the population. The problem is more likely obesity than steroid using gym goers

Seekh that the increase started in 2012 it's a bit mental thinking it's anything to do with the vaccine

I reckon its the obesity crisis. I work in a hospital, my work has vague connections to the diabetes clinic and I feel there's more diabetes in younger patients that when I first started this job. I also have a friend younger than me with type 2 that seems intent on not helping themselves at all, so I'm guessing there more people like that out there too

Many people will only entertain evidence that affirms their bias. Sadly I know of a few people who have gone down the covid conspiracy rabbit hole.

I think the British Heart Foundation article mentioned a rise in younger people since covid.

There was an all case rise since 2012 which they suspected was the result of less gp access, austerity, obesity and sedentary lifestyles.

COVID itself does affect the heart - I think it's more likely the virus than the vaccine that could be an impact - and if the virus does have an impact it's likely to be the same mechanics as the virus itself but in a milder form

Indeed - cardio problems after a virus ( any) are not that rare

Why don’t you look up the original research paper? The possible causes will be discussed.

its by no means isolated to that poster so apologies

but the idea that there is some epidemic of young people having heart attacks due to processed food, or sitting down too much, or being obese, is ridiculous and tbh, it’s clearly not been thought through in the context of increasing heart attacks in an extremely low risk group.

25-44 years olds having heart attacks is such a teeny tiny portion of the population

as above it seems like the increase in heart attacks in this entire age group is estimated in the <5k range annually.

Cocaine

Cocaine use is so much more mainstream now than years back

This one?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9839603/pdf/nihms-1861427.pdf

I know many young vegans who eat that
shite processed fake meat. Drug use seems to be standard & exercise to look good rather than being fitter.

Absolutely. Not talked about anywhere near enough.