Why on earth are Farage and Reform so popular ?

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Their ideology is essentially heated up Thatcherism, more deregulation (if that’s possible) and laissez faire light touch for businesses, more cuts to public services because they love an even smaller state, cuts to benefits apart from those for pensioners, no real solution to the immigration issue apart from sinking the small boats.
So why isn’t Farage being challenged ? Everywhere you read that Farage is the next PM in waiting but his policies are a rerun of the last 14 years but worse, they haven’t worked so far, why would they work with a Reform government ? What’s an even worse thought is a Tory/Reform coalition, are we as country daft enough to fall for it ?
And how long would we give a Reform government to turn things around ? 6 months, a year ?

Because the Conservatives and the Labour party have spent decades pissing the electorate off by offering two different narratives and the same bloody policies.

I saw voting intention polls today that had them on 29% - that's crazy, almost 30% of people willing to throw the towel in with our established parties and I don't think that will change unless some growth per capita and an improvement in living standards.

They listen alright. And then they manipulate.

If you require manipulation, they are the part for you.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-fascist-nazi-song-gas-them-all-ukip-brexit-schoolfriend-dulwich-college-a7185236.html

For those who like Farage...

It’s the blame game, keep telling them that the problem is y when all the time the problem is underfunding, underpaid and instead of more funding, higher pay they believe the problem is y. Of course the problem is not y and the problem doesn’t go away

Because the Conservatives promised to lower the pace of immegration and then after Brexit put it up to record levels.
They also failed to take a stand against gender ideology. There was less and less talent in the party and they were rightly kicked out.
They lost the respect of their voter base and it's gone too far to get back trust, so Farage has moved into their space.

Reform are like brexit: sounds like a good idea until it happens.

Also brexit was just a vague glowly notion that enabled leavers to imagine their own outcome. Reform's policies are similar.

Reform's support comes from the politically unengaged or those with a poor understanding/relationship with economic reality.

The working and middle classes will be way more fucked under reform than Labour.

Just look around your local town.

At what?

cuts to benefits apart from those for pensioners

makes them popular amongst pensioners. Yes not all pensioners, blah, blah, blah.

Because they listen and represent what a lot of people think.

Reform can't fix the ageing population issue.

Green and Lib Dem

See I do actually think MOST reform supporters wouldn't consider themselves racist. But I'm not sure they've really thought through what lower taxes means. Because what it WILL mean is less money for housing / the NHS / disability benefits / green economy/ schooling. But the rich business owners will be able to keep more of their profits as there'll be less protection for workers, landlords will benefit and tenants will lose out. Basically the top 1% will be able to cream EVEN MORE odd the rest of us. Is that REALLY what you want for all of our futures?

Many mistakenly think they are the 1% or aspire to be so think they are helping themselves when actually they are making it harder.

The problem is are the other politicians any better?

Because they listen and represent what a lot of people think.

what have they listen to in Clayton and what has that lead to them doing?

Lib Dems were part of a coalition which failed to retain the one thing they promised.

The Greens are in an absolute state right now.

Because people are sick of mass immigration and the pressure it puts on the nations infrastructure?

Seems quite obvious

You'd think people will have learned after Brexit.

Because unfortunately Farage has charisma. I don't know how people don't see through him, but for some godforsaken reason he appeals to a certain type of person.

Also, spending absolutely fucktons on propaganda - social media is doing a lot of damage. You can hear it in threads on here - people parroting Farage/Reform sound bites. I noticed it yesterday on a thread about the BBC.

And finally - the state of the country after the Tories decimated the state. People are happy to blame the 'other' rather than privatised public services, Brexit and capitalism.

They aren't that popular - more people voted for Liberal Democrats, Labour and Conservatives, but because Reform have dubious funding sources they could pay for more media attention to make them "look" popular. It's why Ed Davey had to do all of the stunts to get any attention at all because the media loves to tell us when Farage farts.

Where I live their supporters can hardly spell, live on benefits, and hate foreigners. Reform is right wing Temu style.

Monster Raving looney hasn't really existed for over a decade.

That’s an opinion

yyou asked who was left

coilition is different from lib dem conservatives government, even so. As for Lib Dem breaking their promise - what was it?

I think we can safely say that most other politicians are not Nazis, yes.

Because many people seem to have reduced brain cells these days

Yes it is an opinion, well done you spotted it!