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Ted27 · 17/02/2025 17:07

Both
I am very well aware of the failings of the care system
It's the words 'majority' and 'considerably I'm interested in

itsjusttheradio · 17/02/2025 17:15

Ted27 · 17/02/2025 17:07

Both
I am very well aware of the failings of the care system
It's the words 'majority' and 'considerably I'm interested in

You are asking for what reason, though? Does your work involve influencing government policies or similar?

Ted27 · 17/02/2025 17:36

I'm.interested in that claim being evidenced
Do I have to have a reason

JohnofWessex · 17/02/2025 19:19

Marshbird · 16/02/2025 17:58

Friend of mine got one of these opposite to her.

usually just 1 or 2 children, but a lot of disturbance and nuisance. Not the sort of thing you’d put up with in a “normal family house “ without reporting to council and trying to get ASBO in place.

children climbing out onto flat roof and throwing stuff into front garden,road, including hitting cars (parked and moving fgs)
staff literally shouting and swearing back at kids who are shouting and swearing. This is major concern , these staff seems very young in some cases, clearly not equipped to being in house all shift with a disturbed youngster. I’ve witnessed it twice as pulling up, and vthey don’t stop … friend witnessed it a lot and eventually called police
dustbins and rubbish overflowing in front drive, blowin* down road becuase staff can’t be bothered to ensure bin lids on well or even pushing bins closed when they randomly sling stuff in. Other rubbish piled up in drive.
staff parking cars inconsideratably- across other homes driveways, “only be a minute” on corner of road blocking visibility and access . They don’t use the drive. Thst might be becuas3 they don’t want damage to their own cars 🤷🏼‍♀️
police are called at least once per month- often blue lighting and sometimes at night.
Neighbours has been sworn at by kids staying- ok, accept pec they may be disturbed, but she has had her GC with her getting out their own car when a kid has leaned out window and hurled abusive language and swearing at them- that’d be seen as threatening behaviour by an adult.

yea, agreed the situation is appalling for the kids, disgusting that it’s private and for profit, but more and more of these are springing up in small quiet residential roads and no allowance is being made for reality that it is very norticable in an otherwsoe quiet residential street.

in my opinion, the old model was larger houses, big grounds, set back for, road in large areas so that impact would be minimal and kids could have a lot of space. Squeezing kids into small houses, and in my friend# case, in a house with a tiny back yard, fgs , is just a recipe for upset and nuisance. The fact they opened this in a house with a small yard- not surprising kids are climbing into roofs and shouting out windows- kids need space to let of steam , and I imagine these kids more than most. They also don’t care that staff themselves are inconsiderate - they don’t live in street and don’t care. They come for their 8-12 hours then go home.

my friends house was on market for 12 months. Lots of viewing and positive comments. 2 people dropped out early in sale process, with no explanation, and no other offers. People pick up on nuisance. She’s taken her house off market and doesn’t know if she’ll ever be able to sell. She needs to move to bungalow as her husband is finding stairs hard.

OP, don’t just accept to be “fair, kind” or whatever. Learn about impact of other homes this company owns OP. Do some research. It is a disgrace better facilities are not being used- cost cutting, though a seperately house for 1 or 2 kids seem bloody expensive way to run…but apparently it’s the trend to give kids in care a taste of family life. Except it’s not…carers come and go, and then swear and shout back at them 😡
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Most of this though isnt the kids its the so called staff and of course their managers

Marshbird · 17/02/2025 19:23

JohnofWessex · 17/02/2025 19:19

Most of this though isnt the kids its the so called staff and of course their managers

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Er, yes that is the point 🤦‍♀️
let me spell it out again 🤷🏼‍♀️
it isn’t just the kids, it is staff .
The staff don’t view it as “their” home, it is just their place of work. They’re often youngish, and don’t give a whatsit that their behaviour too, or their lack of control over “their” kids behaviour they’re responsible for, are causing nuisance for neighbours

itsjusttheradio · 17/02/2025 19:35

Ted27 · 17/02/2025 17:36

I'm.interested in that claim being evidenced
Do I have to have a reason

Okay, well to put it another way - are you seeking in good faith an exchange of ideas and wanting to know what led me to use those words, or are you saying that you don't believe that those words would ever be used in government reports and without further evidence you suggest that I am gratutiously using hyperbole? It makes a difference, to how I reply. So would the former or the latter apply more to your question?

Ted27 · 17/02/2025 19:37

I just asked a question. There is either evidence to support that statement or there isn't

itsjusttheradio · 17/02/2025 20:55

Ted27 · 17/02/2025 19:37

I just asked a question. There is either evidence to support that statement or there isn't

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Interesting... and why won't you answer my question about your motivation? Simple question - is it the former or the latter?

And if as you say you are "very well aware of the failings of the care system" what do you think the answer to your question is?

Ted27 · 17/02/2025 21:07

I think you are the one making a drama out of this.
As far as I'm concerned concerned it's a straightforward question.
So as you either can't or won't answer I don't think there is anything more to say

itsjusttheradio · 19/02/2025 15:04

Ted27, I think it was a really odd question in the circs and impossible to answer w/o more information about what you wanted the info for. If you want hard information and evidence which is current and all in one document, ie the sort of report which could be linked as an answer to your question, for example, you could lobby for a report to be done now in relation to care leaver outcomes, reviewing every single care leaver over the last, say, 20 years, and looking at the emotional and physical wellbeing of them all, to be further reviewed on a 5 year basis perhaps, determining at exactly how many children in care have had the sort of input and care they need, to recover from trauma and to build foundations for their future, also looking at all children in care today and doing the same review, and make sure the report is done by people with the right level of psychological expertise, etc.

Unless of course such a report exists in which case you could link it.

Hope that helps.

Honey08 · 16/04/2025 13:16

steppemum · 06/02/2025 15:26

Got home last night and there is a letter through our door from a neighbour.
Apparently there is a planning application in to change the use of a house to a residential childrens' home. The letter was asking for people to put in ojections to the planning application.

I walked past the house today.
We are a quiet road, dead end, the house in question is large with big garden and another house built at the end of the garden (they built it and sold it off) It is close to neighbours but detached. Has its own large drive for parking. The application is for both the main house and the house in the garden to together become a childrens home.

I can't see what the problem is! I am tempted to put in a comment to the planners to say this is a nice quiet, safe road for a kids home.
I am glad that there will be more facilities as our council has a great deal of trouble finding enough foster homes.
We are detached but very close to neighbours, and we never hear a thing.

Am I being naive?
Is there any reason why this house might cause problems?
Honestly I just think this is NIMBY ism. But is that me being naive?

ok good luck selling your property if you ever want to move especially if this is attached to another property. We have lived next door to one for 12 years and trying to sell our property we’ve had two offers and both withdrawn because of this house . We have endless trouble from this house but hey ho call it what you want but it’s serious people need to be very careful allowing this to happen

Honey08 · 16/04/2025 13:17

SH23B · 06/02/2025 17:35

@6strings1song
Just out of interest, what areas are suitable for this sort of housing if yours isn't?

Maybe next to you?

Honey08 · 16/04/2025 13:20

Fairyliz · 06/02/2025 17:58

Honest you are being completely naive op. These are unlikely to be sweet little children whose parents have died in a tragic car accident.
They are likely to be the worst of the worst teenagers; drugs, violence, arson etc. Your house insurance will go up, as they are likely to try and break in; and your property prices will fall.
You sound like a lovely person but is this what you want?

Naive is what the op is we live next door to one and can’t sell our house he just smashed ask the windows last week exactly the same time a viewer was walking up our path good luck to her

godmum56 · 16/04/2025 15:39

not excactly a zombie thread but definitely looking unwell.....

Praying4Peace · 04/09/2025 11:55

Fairyliz · 06/02/2025 17:58

Honest you are being completely naive op. These are unlikely to be sweet little children whose parents have died in a tragic car accident.
They are likely to be the worst of the worst teenagers; drugs, violence, arson etc. Your house insurance will go up, as they are likely to try and break in; and your property prices will fall.
You sound like a lovely person but is this what you want?

This is a joke, right?

Livpool · 04/09/2025 12:33

Sheeparelooseagain · 06/02/2025 21:10

I think there are some people who won't be happy until we have brought back workhouses, orphanages and places were we can lock away disabled children and adults.

Agreed!

This thread is a depressing read- these poor kids