Is a key safe actually safe

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What’s stopping someone ripping it off the wall, breaking it, getting my house key and entering.

A 4 digit key has something like 10,000 possible combinations. If they could wrench it off the wall with a crow bar they could just as easily smash your door or window or pick your lock. Not reassuring I know, but realiatic. It won't make you less safe.

outside the house?

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I read this as a safe with a key 😂😂
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I've lived here for six years and there's a locked key safe from the previous owner outside the back door. The only way I'm going to get rid is by replacing the bricks it's attached too! I have one at the side for my teenager. Also handy if I don't want to take a key on a run. Four digit pin.

Round here a few people have them set up for dog walkers.

A neighbours sons friend who was answering a telecare call as neighbour has fallen tried to get in the keysafe- a standard one- as he didn’t know the code.
Lots of heavy tools required to get it off the wall and he was about to use an angle grinder to get in( and was failing) when we arrived and climbed over the fence from our side and could speak to neighbour who told us the code.
So- very hard to break into.

A 4 digit key safe has something like 10,000 possible combinations, how is that easy to work out?

I've got one which is positioned so it isn't visable from the street. I've also got security cameras and nosey neighbours (I'm in their gang too 😃).

Buy a good quality one.
Put it up (or down) so that it’s out of site for anyone just browsing.

Not necessarily, mine is for my niece who stays in my house when I'm not there so she can start on her homework (Youtubing) before her mum picks her up after work. Only 4 of us know the code and 2 who do live in the house.

They can be supplied and fitted by the local authority, in some cases. If a person is bedbound and needs carers or nurses.

We have one and keep the key to the garage in it. Inside the garage we have a hidden door key.

Google for the make and model of the keysafe and how to crack it.

We had the same, and I figured out the code in about 10 minutes following instructions from YouTube. It was a bit fiddly, but not complicated.

Not a lot, and more concerningly, I doubt your insurance would cover any loss.

You could conceal it, but it's also useful to be see it hasn't been tampered with.

You're incorrect on the insurance point, not sure why you would think this is the case. I checked with my insurer before fitting mine.

My insurance at work stated it should be placed in an inconspicuous place rather than next to the door but otherwise we are insured

I'm surprised, mine said I wouldn't be covered if there wasn't a sign of forced entry on the property.

Have you checked whether forced entry into the key safe would count though?

My mother's keysafe does look extremely armour plated. It is very deeply drilled into the wall in her porch, where it isn't immediately visible and the screws are internal to it, not accessible from the outside of it at all.

To me it looks like getting into Fort Knox would be easier than trying to break it off the wall or get into it without the code.

Whatever the case with insurers, my mother needs to have the keysafe. She lives alone and isn't mobile or in the best of health anymore so her carers need it to get in several times a day (she is not mobile enough to go to the door for them).

We have this one - the firm will actually install it for you (for a fee). We went with this and the house insurers were quite happy once we told them which model it was.

Yes.
Prolly best to check your policy, it looks like some cover it and some don't.

I think it comes down to choosing a key safe that is police approved, with testing etc. Some, as you say, can be extremely flimsy and I wouldn't trust them at all!

I found this a useful article online, and have since replaced my flimsy Amazon box with one from this company, which is substantially heavier and stronger.
https://keysafe.co.uk/blogs/useful-guides/choosing-a-secure-key-safe-what-to-look-for

Lock it into your electric meter box if you have one. No one would think to check in there but easy for you to get into.

The 4 digit rotary ones are incredibly easy to crack - you just need a strip of card / paper that's slightly narrower than each wheel and then you can identify in seconds the position for each one, as you'll be able to push it further in between the wheel and the casing to the locking mechanism when it's in the right place :)

Much simpler to get one of those key hiders that look like a random stone, as demonstrated here by Victor - nobody would ever dream of looking there.