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Why would a Dad not want to be listed on a child's birth certificate?

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lily266 · 13/01/2025 12:06

Just wondering if there are any legal implications of this, besides lack of parental responsibility?

My ex isn't listed on our child's bc, he refused to at the time.

Refused to come to arrangement regarding child support. So I went to CMS which he disputed. DNA test done which of course proved he was the father.

He's had the opportunity to go on the bc, but won't.

Wanted to be involved in child's life but contact broke down.

Was advised by solicitor to get on the bc and seek CAO, but he won't.

Still wants contact though.

I'm actually not bothered if he's on the bc or not, it does me a favour if he isn't tbh.

But I am trying to understand the thought process? He knows our child is his.

His family has a lot of money, and I know they were concerned about my child potentially inheriting, and saw a solicitor about this. I'm not bothered about money btw but they are.

My ex also has some assets and businesses. Would being on the bc or having a dependent have any impact on that?

Just trying to understand. Thanks!

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lily266 · 13/01/2025 17:28

@PoisedBrickWriter the birth certificate is not for my child's financial benefit Hmm he already has to pay child maintenance through CMS and whether or not he is on the bc has no impact on that.

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HellofromJohnCraven · 13/01/2025 17:31

Cos he is a knob?
No other reason left, surely. If he dies whilst ds is a minor, you have dna proof so he could inherit.
He is just being a knob

PoisedBrickWriter · 13/01/2025 17:43

lily266 · 13/01/2025 17:28

@PoisedBrickWriter the birth certificate is not for my child's financial benefit Hmm he already has to pay child maintenance through CMS and whether or not he is on the bc has no impact on that.

Yeah sure. So let dad see baby

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Justkeepingplatesspinning · 13/01/2025 17:43

All that having a child contact order will do us perhaps dictate that you have to make your child available on one evening during the week and every other weekend. It still doesn't force him to actually turn up. He can still mess you about and it sounds as though he is trying to control and harass you by demanding to see your children but then changing his mind etc.
I'd tell him, via your solicitor, that he can see his child on x evening and/or every other weekend. Full stop, end of. Get a parenting app and only contact him via that, about contact arrangements only.
Don't let him have any other way to communicate with you and hassle you.

SheilaFentiman · 13/01/2025 17:46

Oh FFS @PoisedBrickWriter OP was letting him see the kid until he dicked her and the kid around repeatedly.

If he gets a CAO, OP has to be available at the times stated. And he will doubtless dick her around again.

But he has no grounds to get a CAO without going on the birth certificate, so he can’t use a CAO to dick her and DC around further. Which is a result.

SheilaFentiman · 13/01/2025 17:50

@lily266 i salute you for finding this way forward to deal with his shittiness, TBH

You4coffee · 13/01/2025 17:54

Ignore the poster being obtuse.

Could it be that he has a new girlfriend and wants to pretend to them that he's not a bad father - it's the crazy ex keeping him away from DC?

It could possibly be the financial dependents thing - I had to declare mine on the mortgage recently. But I guess that would already be covered by paying CMS. I also had to state something in my will about deliberately leaving someone out of it - could it be that?

What were his family like when you were together? Have they met DC? Could he have spun them a line and now can't backtrack from it?

Could he have other DC and thinks being on the BC will out him??

FWIW I don't you'll ever really know the real answer.

JohnofWessex · 13/01/2025 18:47

The only issue that I can think of other than being a twat is that if either he or a family member died intestate then your child might be a beneficiary under the intestacy rules.

His family though can sort this by making wills.

If he dies while your child is a dependant and he hasnt made provision in his will then that can be contested.

Once your child reaches adulthood though he only has to leave him / her a few pounds to show they havnt been forgotten then he's covered

lily266 · 13/01/2025 20:21

SheilaFentiman · 13/01/2025 17:50

@lily266 i salute you for finding this way forward to deal with his shittiness, TBH

Thank you Flowers

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lily266 · 13/01/2025 20:24

You4coffee · 13/01/2025 17:54

Ignore the poster being obtuse.

Could it be that he has a new girlfriend and wants to pretend to them that he's not a bad father - it's the crazy ex keeping him away from DC?

It could possibly be the financial dependents thing - I had to declare mine on the mortgage recently. But I guess that would already be covered by paying CMS. I also had to state something in my will about deliberately leaving someone out of it - could it be that?

What were his family like when you were together? Have they met DC? Could he have spun them a line and now can't backtrack from it?

Could he have other DC and thinks being on the BC will out him??

FWIW I don't you'll ever really know the real answer.

Yes you are probably right and I may not ever know the thought process.

Maybe he doesn't really want contact but just likes to use it as a reason to harass me. Or just say "look she's the bad one" without doing anything about it himself.

He definitely doesn't have any other DC or another family or anything like that.

His parents have met DC, didn't for a while though. I got along with them very well when we were together, I was always very included in family things, I could spend time with his mum and dad on my own too.

But he's definitely the golden child of their family so as soon as he decided I was on the outer with him regarding the pregnancy, they also decided I was on the outer. They all have quite questionable morals I've learned!

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lily266 · 13/01/2025 20:28

JohnofWessex · 13/01/2025 18:47

The only issue that I can think of other than being a twat is that if either he or a family member died intestate then your child might be a beneficiary under the intestacy rules.

His family though can sort this by making wills.

If he dies while your child is a dependant and he hasnt made provision in his will then that can be contested.

Once your child reaches adulthood though he only has to leave him / her a few pounds to show they havnt been forgotten then he's covered

Hmm yes I was thinking this. But they are quite well off and have a successful business passed down through the family, I really can't see them not having a will!

But it is one thought that my friend and I had- do they/him think it would absolve them of anything long term like that (not that my child would be entitled to anything anyway, they can leave their money to whoever).

As I said before I'm not motivated by money, I have a decent career myself but no family money or anything like that. But totally self sufficient.

My ex on the other hand is, and tried to get me to cancel the CMS claim by saying that he will leave one of his properties to our child when he dies instead Hmm

I told him our DC will not be interested in a property they may or may not get at potentially the grand age of 60 or even later if say he dies around average age Grin DC needs support now to have the best upbringing they can.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/01/2025 23:11

As well as child support (incorrect) he might be worried about inheritance?

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/01/2025 23:12

lily266 · 13/01/2025 12:10

Yes we are both English and live in England.

He still has the financial obligation of child support which he has to pay now. So I can't understand why if he wants to see his child why he won't just go and get on the birth certificate and get a CAO.

Total laziness it would require him to be organized and get off his arse and go somewhere

lily266 · 14/01/2025 06:27

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 13/01/2025 23:11

As well as child support (incorrect) he might be worried about inheritance?

Mmm yes I'm wondering if him or his family wrong think this

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