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Should I increase my hours?

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RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 16:37

Please help me decide what to do. Thanks for reading.

I have two jobs. My main job is part time, 3dpw. It's a lovely low-stress job, relatively good pay, but a long commute. It's my main income. I also have a specialist freelance/contractor job that I enjoy that pays a few thousand a year.

(Unfortunately I have no childcare to do my freelance work so I have to do it during baby's naps or pay for ad hoc nursery days etc, it's a bit stressful.)

Dh earns a bit over double what I earn altogether.

Unfortunately with childcare costs, mortgage etc, we are currently spending slightly more than our income each month (eating into savings) which is understandably stressing dh out a bit as he's the main earner.

Now, my main job has just told me they are short staffed in my particular specialism and would I like to increase my hours? They say no pressure if I'd rather not.

Unfortunately ds's nursery doesn't do half days. Separately, because of my long commute, 4yo dd has to go into after school care on my working days, which she hates (and isn't cheap).

So, option 1: I could ask to pick up another morning a week (up to 3.5dpw) Ds would go into nursery an additional day, but I could pick him up at 4ish and dd wouldn't need after school care that day so no impact on her. Big plus: I'd have a free afternoon each week to do my freelance work (yes! way less stress for me). But huge minus: after tax and nursery fees, we'd actually be a couple of hundred quid per month worse off this way. However, I could quite probably pick up more freelance work to offset this and perhaps we'd break even.

Option 2: I'd ask for an extra day a week. In this plan, ds would have another long nursery day and dd would have to go in after school care (more stress for both of them). Dh would have to do all the pickups and drop offs for the four days a week, which means he has to catch up on work after bedtime even more than he usually does (more stress for him). We'd be maybe £3-400pcm better off, after tax and childcare fees. But I'd still have no proper time for my freelance work and even less time to cram it in. More stress for me too.

Option 3... no change to current schedule. Maybe cut back on spending, although we aren't particularly spendy. We go to pizza express or get a takeaway for dinner once a week, and take the kids to the softplay once a week, that's about it. Dh and I never have any dates, unless you count having a glass of wine while watching TV/the baby monitor. So our lives would be slightly joyless especially in winter if we had to cut these back. But we could.

Option 4... something else...?

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MuggleMe · 12/01/2025 16:44

I don't understand option 1 if the point of working more is to earn more, but you won't.

Option 2 does not sound like a good fit for any of you.

Option 3 although not ideal seems like the only option for now. Could you find a childminder for less with more flexibility?

Theunamedcat · 12/01/2025 16:49

Can you not do nursery close to your office or work from home?

RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 16:51

MuggleMe · 12/01/2025 16:44

I don't understand option 1 if the point of working more is to earn more, but you won't.

Option 2 does not sound like a good fit for any of you.

Option 3 although not ideal seems like the only option for now. Could you find a childminder for less with more flexibility?

I agree with this summary... sadly!

A childminder might be an option but we just really like ds's nursery as dd went there for years and they took good care of her

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RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 16:53

Theunamedcat · 12/01/2025 16:49

Can you not do nursery close to your office or work from home?

Unfortunately not... I'm a teacher as my main job so I have to go in. Dh works from home most days though so that's why we use a nursery near home

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B0bbingalong · 12/01/2025 16:54

Option 3, I do think going out for dinner once a week is spendy, but I would imagine with a little effort you could trim that or other things to make a saving and avoid the stress. Subscriptions? Go down a brand at Tesco etc

RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 16:54

Yeah the main benefit of option 1 is just that my stress levels would really go down as I'd have guaranteed time for my freelance work. But it wouldn't fix the main issue which is that we need more income. Aaargh

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RandomMess · 12/01/2025 16:58

Go on money saving expert boards and have your finances picked apart to find out where to save money.

Are all the DC clothes/toys 2nd hand? Do you buy them too much.

Do you meal plan with zero wastage?

Have you been through all insurance, subscriptions etc?

Cremeeggtime · 12/01/2025 17:02

Sorry, OP is a teacher and says it's a "lovely, low-stress job"?
That must be a first!!

ItsBulkingSeason · 12/01/2025 17:03

Can DP not take his break at 3pm and do school pick up to avoid DD having to do after school club that day? Is she old enough to entertain herself quietly for an hour or two after school?

I would change DS childcare for something more flexible, you might find a childminder that would take both children, some do school pick ups.

SapphireOpal · 12/01/2025 17:03

How much is "slightly more than your income"?

If a couple of hundred quid or less I'd be looking harder for cuts. Things like takeaway or pizza express once a fortnight rather than once a week, get some nice ready meals/oven pizzas the other week. Any TV package subscriptions you're not using? Can you cut the supermarket bill - go down a brand? Do either of you buy lunch at work and could take a pack up? Can you buy the kids/your clothes from Vinted rather than brand new? Does DH have the heating on all day wfh, could he get a heated throw?

ToKittyornottoKitty · 12/01/2025 17:06

Option 1 isn’t a viable option, you are already loosing money, you need to be sensible.

Id go option 2 as you need to earn more money

Changeitup81 · 12/01/2025 17:09

Cremeeggtime · 12/01/2025 17:02

Sorry, OP is a teacher and says it's a "lovely, low-stress job"?
That must be a first!!

It's a refreshing change 😂

RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 17:46

Cremeeggtime · 12/01/2025 17:02

Sorry, OP is a teacher and says it's a "lovely, low-stress job"?
That must be a first!!

Indeed, this is why I'm reluctant to move to a school nearer home (which is a suggestion often made by my friends and family).Basically I'm at a lovely school with a really nice hod. They treat the teachers pretty well.

I teach a shortage subject so (within reason) I can make requests like choosing my working days and they'll always be granted, because they want to retain us.

This is also partly why I really want to give this proper consideration because I feel like I owe it to my hod not to just dismiss it without considering. We're oversubscribed for next year in terms of A level classes vs teacher time

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RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 17:47

SapphireOpal · 12/01/2025 17:03

How much is "slightly more than your income"?

If a couple of hundred quid or less I'd be looking harder for cuts. Things like takeaway or pizza express once a fortnight rather than once a week, get some nice ready meals/oven pizzas the other week. Any TV package subscriptions you're not using? Can you cut the supermarket bill - go down a brand? Do either of you buy lunch at work and could take a pack up? Can you buy the kids/your clothes from Vinted rather than brand new? Does DH have the heating on all day wfh, could he get a heated throw?

Yeah it's that kind of amount. I think you are right (and the other pps who have suggested the same)

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RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 17:48

I should have said, thank you all so much for the suggestions. I'll be giving dh the digest this evening

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RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 17:49

ItsBulkingSeason · 12/01/2025 17:03

Can DP not take his break at 3pm and do school pick up to avoid DD having to do after school club that day? Is she old enough to entertain herself quietly for an hour or two after school?

I would change DS childcare for something more flexible, you might find a childminder that would take both children, some do school pick ups.

Dh does do something like this pn my working days. It's a bit full on for him though and he has to catch up on his work after bedtime which isn't ideal

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RobinHeartella · 12/01/2025 17:50

Tbf our week is only full-on during term time. We live the life of Riley in the holidays. I shouldn't complain. It's just the few hundred we are spending over our income each month that's the only issue

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ItsBulkingSeason · 12/01/2025 18:01

when your youngest starts school will you be much better off? Or when you get free nursery hours.

( sorry I am well past that stage so not entirely sure how it works)

SapphireOpal · 12/01/2025 18:17

ItsBulkingSeason · 12/01/2025 18:01

when your youngest starts school will you be much better off? Or when you get free nursery hours.

( sorry I am well past that stage so not entirely sure how it works)

This is a good point actually - how long is this going to be an issue for?

If say one more year and you've got tens of thousands in savings I wouldn't be so worried!

RobinHeartella · 13/01/2025 07:55

Unfortunately we aren't eligible for childcare funding as dh's salary (just) tips him over the cliff edge for that. I know that we are lucky that he's high earning, I'm not complaining. Our mortgage and bills and spending are just...even higher... but I think you are all right about simply tightening our belts more.

It's a topic for another thread but we just aren't in good habits for winter frugality. We're good at batch cooking and so nearly all our dinners are cheap healthy hot meals. In summer, we're good at having picnic lunches as part of a day out. But in winter we fork out for cafe lunches on weekends with the kids if we're on a day out which is just silly money considering they enjoy home made cheese sandwiches just as much - but it's too cold to sit in a park to eat it!

But I'll invest my energy in budgeting type ideas, and I think I'll tell my hod that increasing hours is a no go for now.

Thank you all very much, mumsnet wisdom for the win

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Chasingsquirrels · 13/01/2025 08:07

Check whether DH funnelling some money into his pension to reduce his income below the childcare support threshold would actually result in you having more disposable income.

It sounds like there may be savings to be made, certainly I don't think most people go out to eat weekly, and you say your income in high but your oucltgoings are higher. Some of those (probably the larger part) will be fixed, but small savings also add up.

RandomMess · 13/01/2025 09:27

Surely in the school holidays you still use nursery and you can swap okay dates to do your side hustle?

isitme111 · 13/01/2025 09:40

Option 3 - cut down on the takeaway / Pizza Express to once a month maybe and aim to cut back on other non essentials. It seems your employer is not pushing you to increase hours and with the ages of your dc/ childcare costs upping your hours at this point in time doesn't seem financially viable. Any reasonable employer should understand this. Good luck with whatever you decide.

RobinHeartella · 13/01/2025 17:12

RandomMess · 13/01/2025 09:27

Surely in the school holidays you still use nursery and you can swap okay dates to do your side hustle?

It's not a side hustle in the, making candles kind of sense - it's more like copy writing. I get regular deadlines all year round. For example I've got a big deadline the first week of Feb and it's about 5 hours work, which doesn't sound like much but it's going to be so hard to find rhat much child free time

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RobinHeartella · 13/01/2025 17:15

isitme111 · 13/01/2025 09:40

Option 3 - cut down on the takeaway / Pizza Express to once a month maybe and aim to cut back on other non essentials. It seems your employer is not pushing you to increase hours and with the ages of your dc/ childcare costs upping your hours at this point in time doesn't seem financially viable. Any reasonable employer should understand this. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Edited

This is sadly what I've told my hod today. It went down fine, he wasn't pressuring me.

I did say if there was a way to arrange the timetable so I did 4 days' worth compressed into 3.5, I'd accept that. Ie fewer free periods in the rest of the week. He said that was unlikely but if they really needed the manpower they'd see if they can manage that

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