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How did people with food allergies/intolerance cope in the past

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Turning25 · 30/12/2024 22:35

I've got coeliac disease, and am lactose intolerant along with it (very common to be both) DH has a severe nut allergy.

We were talking today about how people would have coped 50, 100, 200 years ago.

My gran (coeliac) told me she used to have gluten free bread in tins, and I've read that doctors used to prescribe a diet of banana for coeliac disease but not sure how true that is!

I suppose nuts maybe weren't so common 200 years ago? So DH wouldn't have died? I assume I'd have died from malnutrition in medival times?

Googling it is a bit overwhelming! Is there anyone who had older relatives with food allergies who could ask them?

Thank you

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HPandthelastwish · 31/12/2024 12:30

BBC Sounds, podcast: Uncharted by Hannah Fry, episode: A grain of truth

Is a great episode on how rationing and a change in diet caused them to discover what is now Celiacs, the whole series is fascinating but this one is particularly relevant to this thread.

HPandthelastwish · 31/12/2024 12:34

Someone up thread mentioned hayfever, hayfever from tree pollen is a relatively recent issue.

When councils decided to plant trees in residential areas they found the female trees would drop their fruit so were messier and caused slipping accidents when people walked on the squashed fruit. So instead they planted male trees, male trees produce the pollen to increase the chances of pollination with no female trees nearby they adapted to produce ever increasing amounts of pollen, far more than we would naturally be around hence people having a reaction to it.

Lovelyview · 31/12/2024 12:37

More people died young and didn't pass on their genes so the population had less genetic susceptibility to severe allergies. Possibly fewer environmental reasons for immune issues (pollution, etc.).

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Whyherewego · 31/12/2024 12:39

Peanut allergies are apparently a relatively new Western phenomenon. I'm not sure if that's because people used to die before adulthood or diagnosis but seemingly some of it comes from well intentioned advice which actually created a more of an allergy problem. Certainly my SE Asian SIL tells me that peanut allergy isn't very common or considered at all as an issue in her country as they use peanuts in everything

Bumply · 31/12/2024 12:40

My mum was diagnosed coeliac in her 70s, which explained her severe anaemia and lack of energy as a child and adult.

it was just after GF bread in a tin, although the bread she got was the weight of a brick and only just easier to cut.

1 in 100 people have coeliac disease. 1 in 10 if a close relative already has it. I don’t think that has changed, just that more people are likely to be tested these days.

ds2 had failure to thrive as a baby. Diagnosed at 2 (after a year of struggling to get Drs to consider it) and I really don’t want to think how he would have been if not eventually picked up. He had a malnutritioned belly similar to photos of children in countries with severe drought and was pale and lethargic.

Apileofballyhoo · 31/12/2024 12:41

Ireland does have a higher incidence of coeliac disease, probably as people with it passed on their genes due to being on a gluten free diet by accident so to speak.

HoppityBun · 31/12/2024 12:46

Depends what you mean by the past. Even 50 years ago coeliac disease was not as widely understood as it is now: a childhood friend of mine nearly died because he was so ill but no one knew why until he was diagnosed after a very long time . So I think people just died. There’s an interesting review here:

https://www.beyondceliac.org/celiac-disease/celiac-history/

History of Celiac Disease | BeyondCeliac.org

A history of celiac disease. Learn about Aretaeus of Cappadocia, the banana diet, and the identification of celiac disease as an autoimmune ...

https://www.beyondceliac.org/celiac-disease/celiac-history

SuzieNine · 31/12/2024 12:48

In the 1720s yes. By the end of the 19th century bananas were ubiquitous in the U.K. - they were grown on an industrial scale in the British West Indies.

edit: answer to PP saying that bananas would have been an exotic and unaffordable food in the 1920s.

Branster · 31/12/2024 12:50

@Areolaborealis very useful to mention this as it is quite a widespread issue.
I wonder how far back did allergies to animals started? I can't think that would have been a problem before animals were domesticated as contact to wild animals would have been quite a different story back then.
But wasn't there a very long period of time when people lived in the same building as their animals? Cows and hens downstairs and humans upstairs sharing a relatively small space with big families? I imagine there were no ventilation problems because not much could be sealed tight in a traditional building.
And people who interacted with domestic animals would have done so mostly outdoors, maybe with minimal hand touching during day to day activities and not a big danger of breathing in various particles.

Nowadays, of course, we've brought pets into our homes and that must play a big part.

I might be completely wrong, but, to my mind, allergies to animals are a respiratory system issue as opposed to food intolerances and food allergies. But both can, potentially, be made worse through touching certain animals or foods. Or maybe with foods it is the transmission of something from hands to mouth.

Reetpetitenot · 31/12/2024 12:54

Needanewname42 · 31/12/2024 00:25

Is their not something about wheat being stronger than it was? Therefore more likely to trigger reactions.

Peanuts, they considered children choked on peanuts, now they are reconsidering some of those may well have been allergic reactions.

Edited

That peanut theory is interesting and something I have wondered about.

UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 31/12/2024 12:59

If not death I imagine lots of chronic illness.

DefyingGravy · 31/12/2024 13:01

TheCoolOliveBalonz · 31/12/2024 08:17

My family has a history of dairy allergy leading to related problem with eczema, asthma and being very snotty. Sounds like they just suffered as they didn't understand it was the dairy. I was diagnosed as a baby in the 80s and when family saw the effect cutting it out had on me, they tried it and it changed their lives. It honestly sounds barbaric what my dad went through as a child. And all the time his mum was encouraging him to drink a daily glass of milk for his health!

That was me too but I was switched to goats milk, which I was fine with (as an adult i’m fine with cows milk now).

My ancestors living in a rural hovel may well have had only goats milk not cows milk, or cows milk rarely, so may have been less of an issue.

Needanewname42 · 31/12/2024 13:26

SuzieNine · 31/12/2024 12:48

In the 1720s yes. By the end of the 19th century bananas were ubiquitous in the U.K. - they were grown on an industrial scale in the British West Indies.

edit: answer to PP saying that bananas would have been an exotic and unaffordable food in the 1920s.

Edited

Ok a bit of banana 🍌 goggling.
They were first imported in 1880. Became popular in the 1930s.
So debatable when they became affordable. I recall my DGPs born around 1920 talking about them being shared between siblings.

Imports stopped in 1941, restarted Dec 1940 but were rationed to one per child and pregnant women per week until 1952.

BlackCatsAreBrilliant · 31/12/2024 14:17

Needanewname42 · 31/12/2024 13:26

Ok a bit of banana 🍌 goggling.
They were first imported in 1880. Became popular in the 1930s.
So debatable when they became affordable. I recall my DGPs born around 1920 talking about them being shared between siblings.

Imports stopped in 1941, restarted Dec 1940 but were rationed to one per child and pregnant women per week until 1952.

Edited

My DM grew up in the UK during WW2. I remember her saying how excited she was as a teenager to be given a banana to eat.

WhatALightbulbMoment · 31/12/2024 14:19

There has been a significant increase in these conditions over the last decades. They were much less frequent in past times.

Needanewname42 · 31/12/2024 14:36

Needanewname42 · 31/12/2024 13:26

Ok a bit of banana 🍌 goggling.
They were first imported in 1880. Became popular in the 1930s.
So debatable when they became affordable. I recall my DGPs born around 1920 talking about them being shared between siblings.

Imports stopped in 1941, restarted Dec 1940 but were rationed to one per child and pregnant women per week until 1952.

Edited

That was meant to read restarted Dec 1945.

OldEarAche · 31/12/2024 14:40

I was born milk allergic in the early 70s. When I started school, we were still given milk at break times and they refused to not let me have it which resulted in me throwing up every day after I had it. After a solid term of doing that, they relented and I was allowed water but they weren't happy about it and used to try and force me to have it at every occasion!

DogInATent · 31/12/2024 14:40

WhiteLily1 · 31/12/2024 01:46

For a start, wheat in medieval times was very different to the wheat of the past 50 -100 years. So many more people are intolerant now to wheat because of how it’s grown and modified to be more profitable.
You may well not have been coeliac at all 200 year ago

It's an inherited autoimmune disease, not an intolerance.

Frowningprovidence · 31/12/2024 14:41

All I can hear is Yes, we have no bananas!

RandomUsernameHere · 31/12/2024 14:46

It must have been a lot more difficult. I had a friend with a severe nut allergy (in the nineties) and even so there was no restriction on anyone bringing nuts to school.

StMarie4me · 31/12/2024 14:46

MandSCrisps · 30/12/2024 23:03

There was a boy in my school in the 80s wirh undiagnosed coeliac. He had ‘failure to thrive’ and was very small/pale.
I also had a colleague with it in the 90s who got prescription biscuits etc. he never looked very well, I think his diet was very limited.
but I think the further back you go these people just died, untreated coeliacs is linked to bowel cancer I believe.

My celiac friend had prescription bread in the 90s. Her diet was quite limited.

Natsku · 31/12/2024 16:02

My mum had the prescription bread in the 90s (and the 80s) but her diet wasn't limited, she just cooked from scratch and had to make sure she always had her own food with her when travelling.

Snugglemonkey · 01/01/2025 03:21

starstar84 · 31/12/2024 00:38

I know there are more allergies and intolerances now than there used to be. Partly because our food supply is now a lot more globalised and thus we are exposed to a wider number of potential allergens, and also because our gut microbiomes are reallt unhealthy for the most part because we now have a couple of generations who have been exposed to ultra processed foods, which have been proven to be terrible for health. We pass our microbiomes on from generation to generation so if you inherit a poor one and again eat a poor diet, you pass an even poorer one to your children and so on and so on.

anecdotally, I have/had a reasonably serious allergy to a few different nuts and seeds. Not instant death kind of level, but still anaphylaxis and hospitalisation a few times. I have found that by introducing these foods in very small amounts AND massively increasing the diversity of my diet the allergies seem to have waned. Not suggesting anyone tries this obviously, I have just heard this has happened to quite a few people who have focused on microbiome health as it directly affects / controls the immune system.

could just be old age tho, who knows!

Edited

Dc1 was v allergic to a number of things. Eggs, diary, soy, celery, tree nuts and omg, another thing that entirely escapes me now and is really making me smile, but was a fruit.

Everything about what dc1 ate was so highly controlled. I had to make our bread. We never ate any restaurant food, we could never just spontaneously do anything. We planned every single day, we carried v specific snacks.

It was all great. We all managed it v well and dc1 did the egg ladder and the milk ladder. Weirdly, that fixed all the allergies.

We did a test in the hospital for nuts. But nothing. Even though he had previously reacted. It seemed that doing the ladders he did fixed not just those allergies, but all of them.

Ponderingwindow · 01/01/2025 03:31

Diets also were not as varied. I’m allergic to all sorts of things that would have been luxuries in my region 100 or 200 years ago and were simply not part of the diet in earlier eras. Now, they are used in manufacturing of all sorts of food products where you might not even expect them.

Ygfrhj · 01/01/2025 03:32

Allergies were much less common when our immune systems had bigger fish to fry like parasites, gut worms etc.

And 20,000 years ago nobody would have eaten much wheat except if they happened to find some in areas where it grew naturally while gathering other plants, so it would have been a very small part of their diet. Likewise dairy.

In agricultural times when these became staples I guess people that couldn't eat them just died - isn't this why people in western Eurasia developed lactose tolerance, the ones that couldn't digest milk died out?

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