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I've never watched ballet before, I always assumed I wouldn't understand it

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Hisnutsroastingonanopenfire · 25/12/2024 13:06

But Swan Lake on BBC2 right now is really enjoyable. I'm pleasantly surprised! Even my young sons have put the consoles down and are watching with me. Can I call us middle class now? 😆

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oakleaffy · 25/12/2024 16:02

SabrinaThwaite · 25/12/2024 13:14

Ballet Rambert is always good for those not into classical ballet.

Years ago they did a wonderful performance based on the Rolling Stones best known songs.

A woman I knew moved beautifully-
I asked her if she’d ever done Ballet- She had!
she’d been in Ballet Rambert as a younger woman, but the poise and elegant way of moving remains. 🩰

TurningPointe · 25/12/2024 17:12

@persisted a good tip is to look for standing tickets on the Saturday matinee and book a train ticket way in advance. We know people who live in Scotland who just about manage it as a day trip.

Hotel prices are ridiculous so we tend to combine two, three or even four shows together if we have to commit to a hotel.

DD has it lucky now she's living in London and training but she often too tired from her own ballet to make as much as she'd like. She did get £3 tickets to see Maddamam though.

Sassybooklover · 25/12/2024 17:19

I'm going to the theatre in January to watch The Nutcracker ballet! I have never been to the ballet before!! Hoping I enjoy it!

TurningPointe · 25/12/2024 17:29

On The Nutcracker, the best version (imo!) is the Royal Ballet. But this clip will help with any version. This is Alexander Campbell doing the mime scene and basically telling the whole story.

If you understand a few simple mimes, it makes it so much easier in many ballets. This clip never fails to make me laugh when he falls down and jumps immediately back up again 😆

NoIncomeTaxNoVAT · 25/12/2024 19:27

I lived in Russia for a bit many years ago as a student, and if you were prepared to sit on the floor / stand by the side, you could go into a Bolshoi performance for something like the equivalent of £1. It was absolutely amazing. I doubt it's allowed anymore, but so many fond memories. Swan Lake is one of my all time faves.

devongirl12 · 25/12/2024 23:47

I feel like a bit of a dunce, but I feel like this about Shakespeare.

We did some of the plays in A level English, and that was ok, we studied them and I could understand what was going on and enjoyed them.

But watching on stage? I'm clueless. It's all just too fast, and the language is so convoluted and flowery. How on earth does anybody know what's going on?

Assumed ballet would be similar, but maybe I will give it a go.

1apenny2apenny · 25/12/2024 23:51

HRTFT but ballet and opera is live streamed so you can watch it at the cinema. Same as some National Theatre plays and some art exhibitions. It's a bit more than a normal cinema ticket but great value and you get a close up view!

hamsandyams · 25/12/2024 23:53

I’d done the opera a couple of times, which isn’t for me and assumed I wouldn’t like the ballet.

I went to see beauty and the beast in ballet this year though and I was ENTHRALLED. I loved it. I’ll definitely go again!

mondaytosunday · 26/12/2024 00:57

My goodness what have you missed! Ballet is beautiful if a very harsh industry. It's always been amazing whenever I've seen it (and in person is the best way).

Spikeishere · 26/12/2024 01:03

The ballet is wonderful and I never know what's going on, it's so so beautiful and the music is just wonderful!

ByHardyAquaFox · 26/12/2024 01:51

To each their own. I'd rather watch paint dry.

HoppityBun · 26/12/2024 04:25

devongirl12 · 25/12/2024 23:47

I feel like a bit of a dunce, but I feel like this about Shakespeare.

We did some of the plays in A level English, and that was ok, we studied them and I could understand what was going on and enjoyed them.

But watching on stage? I'm clueless. It's all just too fast, and the language is so convoluted and flowery. How on earth does anybody know what's going on?

Assumed ballet would be similar, but maybe I will give it a go.

It’s the other way round for me, with Shakespeare. Reading it is ok, but hearing it spoken brings it alive and much easier to understand. I remember the first time I saw a play when my class was taken to A Midsummer Nights Dream, and I was astonished that it suddenly made sense and I was completely drawn into it

InCheesusITrust · 26/12/2024 04:57

I always wonder why theatre is thought to be expensive middle/upper class thing only in UK. Grew up in post com country where theatre was affordable. My mum had annual theatre pass for he big local one few times now and goes regularly to big ones in capital with friends. We used to go with my friend as teenagers sometimes. Carmen won our hearts at that time.
Tickets can be bought for as little as £15 in many theatres. We went couple of years ago to Snow Maiden for 12pp, now it's about 16, but still. Totally worth it! At the end of the day similar to cinema ticket and popcorn (because what is cinema with popcorn😁)

Even DH who wasn't theatre goer enjoyed ballet and opera when he tried. He did not snooze as he thought he will. The other way around. Sat there, leaned forward, loving it. To his surprise.
I love balcony tickets and if I can score front row, I am absolute in.

sashh · 26/12/2024 05:09

devongirl12 · 25/12/2024 23:47

I feel like a bit of a dunce, but I feel like this about Shakespeare.

We did some of the plays in A level English, and that was ok, we studied them and I could understand what was going on and enjoyed them.

But watching on stage? I'm clueless. It's all just too fast, and the language is so convoluted and flowery. How on earth does anybody know what's going on?

Assumed ballet would be similar, but maybe I will give it a go.

It's an advantage if you can read it in a broad Yorkshire accent.

Never occurred to me that you're meant to understand ballet or the opera.

How are you supposed to laugh at the right bits if you don't understand? Don Giovani's conquests are immortalised as.

In Italia seicento e quaranta;
In Alemagna[2] duecento e trentuna;
Cento in Francia, in Turchia novantuna;
Ma in Ispagna son già mille e tre.

If you actually want the opera in English ENO is the company to see.

Madamina, il catalogo è questo - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madamina,_il_catalogo_%C3%A8_questo#cite_note-2

Livinginaclock · 26/12/2024 05:14

I saw the Handmaid's tale opera this year and loved it.
Helped that I knew the story and it had subtitles!

Oblomov24 · 26/12/2024 05:22

What do you mean 'are you supposed to understand'? Eh? Of course you are. What sort of question is that? It's a story. It has a plot. They are telling a story. Like opera. And if you look it up before you go, it would give you a greater understanding of what the story is, or at least a general understanding, even if you don't understand every single point, you get the premise. Like any other story. You get what's going on in a film. A book. A fairy tale. Red riding hood. Cinderella.

Going to see the Nutcracker in a couple of weeks, can't wait.

Oblomov24 · 26/12/2024 05:23

"Never occurred to me that you're meant to understand ballet or the opera".

TurningPointe · 26/12/2024 06:28

Oblomov24 · 26/12/2024 05:23

"Never occurred to me that you're meant to understand ballet or the opera".

There are many ballets and operas with no plot.

The most famous I would say is Jewels, which is absolutely stunning and utterly suitable for a beginner to ballet. There's nothing to understand; just beautiful choreography.

Tintackedsea · 26/12/2024 07:17

We went to see Streetcar Named Desire and it was amazing. I've never seen a ballet before and didn't know what to expect but it was the best thing I've ever seen!

PuddleglumtheMarshWiggle · 26/12/2024 07:22

@SabrinaThwaite The Rolling Stones dances were choreographed by Christopher Bruce. If you loved them, then look up Ghost Dances. It's about oppression in Latin America but is so beautiful and moving.

Oblomov24 · 26/12/2024 07:33

Nutcracker :

In Nuremberg, Germanyy** on Christmas Eve in the 1820s, a family and their friends gather in the parlor to decorate the Christmas tree in preparation for the party. Once the tree is finished, the children are summoned.
When the party begins,[22] presents are given out to the children. When the owl-topped grandfather clock strikes eight, a mysterious figure enters the room. It is Drosselmeyer—a councilman, magician, and Clara's godfather. He is also a talented toymaker who has brought with him gifts for the children, including four lifelike dolls who dance to the delight of all.[23] He then has them put away for safekeeping.
Clara and her brother Fritz are sad to see the dolls being taken away, but Drosselmeyer has yet another toy for them: a wooden nutcracker dolll, which the other children ignore. Clara immediately takes a liking to it, but Fritz accidentally breaks it. Clara is heartbroken, but Drosselmeyer fixes the nutcracker, much to everyone's relief.
During the night, after everyone else has gone to bed, Clara returns to the parlor to check on the nutcracker. As she reaches the small bed, the clock strikes midnight and she looks up to see Drosselmeyer perched atop it. Suddenly, mice begin to fill the room and the Christmas tree begins to grow to dizzying heights. The nutcracker also grows to life size. Clara finds herself in the midst of a battle between an army of gingerbread soldiers and the mice, led by their king.
The nutcracker appears to lead the gingerbread men, who are joined by tin soldiers, and by dolls who serve as doctors to carry away the wounded. As the seven-headed Mouse King advances on the still-wounded nutcracker, Clara throws her slipper at him, distracting him long enough for the nutcracker to stab him.
[24]
Scene 2: A Pine Forest*
The mice retreat and the nutcracker is transformed into a human prince.*[25]He leads Clara through the moonlit night to a pine forest in which the snowflakes dance around them, beckoning them on to his kingdom as the first act ends.[26][27]
Act II

The Land of Sweets

Clara and the Prince travel to the beautiful Land of Sweets, ruled by the Sugar Plum Fairy in the Prince's place until his return. He recounts for her how he had been saved from the Mouse King by Clara and transformed back into himself. In honor of the young heroine, a celebration of sweets from around the world is produced: chocolate from Spain, coffee from Arabia,[28][29] tea from China,[30] and candy canes from Russia[31] all dance for their amusement; Marzipan shepherdesses perform on their flutes;[32] Mother Ginger has her children, the Polichinelless, emerge from under her enormous hoop skirt to dance; a string of beautiful flowers performs a waltz.[33][34] To conclude the night, the Sugar Plum Fairy and her Cavalier perform a dance.[35][36]
A final waltz is performed by all the sweets, after which the Sugar Plum Fairy ushers Clara and the Prince down from their throne. He bows to her, she kisses Clara goodbye, and leads them to a reindeer-drawn sleigh. It takes off as they wave goodbye to all the subjects who wave back.*

Oblomov24 · 26/12/2024 07:39

Sugar Plum Fairy dance, and music, is well known. Can't wait for that bit.

ThePoshUns · 26/12/2024 09:03

Matthew Bournes production of the Nutcracker is incredible. The costumes and sets are something else.
I've also seen his Cinderella and am going to see his Swan Lake this year which I am very excited about.

ThePoshUns · 26/12/2024 09:04

Sorry not Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty.

slightlydistrac · 26/12/2024 10:38

ThePoshUns · 26/12/2024 09:04

Sorry not Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty.

Sleeping Beauty is my favourite MB I think.