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How medical advice differs in other countries. (Lighthearted but perplexing)

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KnopkaPixie · 23/12/2024 13:16

The other day I was behind a woman in the queue at a pharmacy here in France. She had oral thrush. The pharmacist took quite a while talking to her about her treatment and the various medications she'd been given by the doctor then went into the general advice section of the lecture. The most important thing was not to eat, "Trop salé." (Too salty.)

I thought, "Pardon?" Surely it's the other way around, nothing too sugary and yeasty? It bothered me so I googled and sure enough at least in the English results - sugary and yeasty were to be avoided.

This happens all the time. I've heard an awful lot of strange medical advice in France over the years and the folk remedies of my Russian ex boyfriend for various illnesses were quite bizarre too. Putting your head over the boiling potato water to cure a cold because the vitamin c evaporated into the steam was a good one.

Have you ever been given strange medical advice abroad?

This thread is kind of inspired by the post about the Germans opening their windows all the time for "Luften"

On the other hand, if you're not a Brit, what are our bizarre medical beliefs/practices?

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godmum56 · 23/12/2024 18:27

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 23/12/2024 17:40

Re: fizzy drinks and recovery , when I was young everyone had a bottle of Lucozade to ‘ aid recovery’.

Fennel is aniseed related ( both umbellifers); in the Mediterranean countries aniseed based drinks are used to aid digestion as both aperitif (Pernod, Ricard) and after meal digestif ( ouzo, brizard etc) . Even in Marrakech in a highly Islamic phase, raki was permitted. And even recommended.

I think gripe water contains fennel, and also ginger which has a carminative effect ( prescribed for painful menstruation in the Middle Ages, but only for the rich).

I get iBS and found flat lucozade very helpful, always kept some in. That was until the sugar tax when they added artificial sweetener to it. I cannot tolerate any of them and there went my IBS helper!

Mooi · 23/12/2024 18:28

godmum56 · 23/12/2024 18:27

I get iBS and found flat lucozade very helpful, always kept some in. That was until the sugar tax when they added artificial sweetener to it. I cannot tolerate any of them and there went my IBS helper!

Try enerzade by todddrinks they use the original recipe with sugar, it’s been a life saver for when I have a migraine.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 23/12/2024 18:29

MiraculousLadybug · 23/12/2024 14:12

Oh not quite advice but definitely perplexing, in America the endless pharmaceutical adverts are like something out of a dystopian nightmare:

"Do you have [breathing], [eyes in your head] and [fingernails]? Then you may have circadian rhythm disorder which can be confirmed by a doctor. Use Circadiax for circadian rhythm disorder, ask your practitioner about it today!"
[massive long list of side effects and other smallprint spoken very quickly]

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😂

Smittenkitchen · 23/12/2024 18:32

Squeekey · 23/12/2024 14:48

Maybe not quite so lighthearted as people get very passionate about the subject, but weaning.

The UK recommends 6 months, most of Europe start at 4m. Given that health differences between these countries are pretty small, it seems bonkers how much each group criticise the other.

Want to start at 4m - it's probably what you'd do in France or Spain or Italy, so crack on.
Want to wait until 6m - that's the official advice here, crack on.

(I was a 4m weaner to reduce allergy risks but I think the almost religious fervour about this subject is nuts).

They do recommend 6 months in Spain at least now.

MILLYmo0se · 23/12/2024 18:33

MiraculousLadybug · 23/12/2024 14:07

When I lived in China, they didn't believe in any vitamin supplements at all during pregnancy and you got rid of diarrhoea with creosote tablets. When I was pregnant, I was told by a medical doctor at a "western medicine" hospital to cover my ankles to protect the baby. Someone I worked with wouldn't eat tofu one day because she had a cut on her nose and a doctor had told her that soy would make it keep bleeding.

In South Africa, there's a spring that is famed for helping people with mental illnesses, particularly mania/depression. It was closed down a few years ago and people were stopped from drinking from it, as the authorities tested it and discovered it had high levels of lithium in the water.

In Ireland, they tend to prefer Calpol suppositories for any small baby illnesses. I was shocked the first time, when a nurse at the hospital told me to get some for DD age 2 months (bronchiolitis). Every time we went to the GP or PHN with the baby, they'd suggest Calpol suppositories, no matter the illness. I'd never heard of them before! I stuck with the normal stuff in a bottle.

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Paralink suppositories were a lifesaver when DD was little (never came across Calpol version, but paralink is paracetamol like Calpol). She d get recurring high temps, never really knew why but she'd be absolutely fine and then not and her temp could be heading for 39 before you d realise and at that point she d start vomiting so liquid meds were useless. Haven't come across many that advise or use them though, the idea of giving them puts people off understandably

OldEarAche · 23/12/2024 18:34

I lived in various countries in Africa and we used to put our mattresses out in the sun once a month to get rid of any bugs

There was also a red liquid called Mercurochrome. Anything wrong with you, put that on. Rash? Mercurochrome. Graze? Mercurochrome. Cut your leg off? Pour mercurochrome on it.

rebmacesrevda · 23/12/2024 18:34

isthismylifenow · 23/12/2024 13:54

I don't live in the UK but have spent some time there. No matter what is wrong with you, if you visit the dr you will have a virus. No more information than that.

Kid can have chicken pox - Ah yes it's a virus
Flu/upper airway/pnuemonia - Ah a virus

Why not just give a proper diagnosis rather than that general term.

You're right. I'm a medic and I say that a lot! Apologies.

What we mean is, it's a virus and there's no effective treatment for it, so you've just got to to rest and manage the symptoms. We have anti-viral drugs, but they're not effective for mild to moderate illnesses, so they are reserved for severe illness only. They also need to be started very early after initial infection, so by the time you see the GP with a cough or a rash it's too late to start anti-viral drugs.

Also, by saying "it's a virus", we're saying we're not giving you antibiotics because those are for bacterial infections, not viral infections.

Shinybear · 23/12/2024 18:36

TickingAlongNicely · 23/12/2024 14:17

When my DD was born in Germany, I was given homeopathic drops as pain relief in labour.

And the babies were wrapped up in so many layers in a heated ward, you could barely see them.
They had stopped offering the British mothers the duvets (basically a pillow!) For their cots though... they only had the vest, fleece suit, cardigan, sleeping bag, hat, and mittens.

This sounds downright dangerous... When was this?

RoamingGnome · 23/12/2024 18:37

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 23/12/2024 15:01

Since leaving the UK I've always found the term 'chest infection' oddly unspecific and a bit infantile.

Would you rather have a LRTI or an URTI? lower respiratory tract infection vs upper (hint - upper is way less serious)

HoppityBun · 23/12/2024 18:37

AffIt · 23/12/2024 13:27

I lived in France for a while and it took me a while to get used to the fact that a lot of medication came in the form of pessaries.

I mean, they're absolutely right, it is a more effective method of delivery, but it didn't come easy.

Also, saline nasal washes for everything. I am still quite hooked on this (brilliant when you feel the first tickle of a cold) and stock up whenever I visit.

You can get saline nasal washes here, too!

Nospringchix · 23/12/2024 18:41

SayDoWhatNow · 23/12/2024 15:04

  • My husband is from the middle east. When he first came to the UK, he genuinely believed that eating cold food (like ice cream) increased your risk of catching a cold. He's a qualified doctor, so I was quite surprised!
  • Babies in his home country (Egypt) seem to be wrapped up in multiple layers of padded blankets, even when it is over 40 degrees outside
  • On the other hand, during Lockdown both my Egyptian in-laws and our neighbourhood London WhatsApp group were simultaneously advocating raw onions in the corners of the room to ward off COVID. Which was both endearing and a testament to the power of social media I guess!

Love the raw onions thing 😆. I guess they could work as a preliminary covid test - if you can't smell the onions you might test positive!

JustAMiddleAgedDirtBagBaby · 23/12/2024 18:42

After a brutal delivery with DS (20y ago) I was really anaemic and went to my GP, who was an Italian man of fatherly manner. I was exhausted and tearful, and he held my hand and said "my dear, I would like to prescribe you steak, Chianti, and two weeks in Sicily, but alas, it will have to be iron tablets"

I still think of him fondly.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 23/12/2024 18:46

newtlover · 23/12/2024 13:30

there are a lot of first aid practies that differ too
I was told by a group of African women (various nations) to put instant coffee on a cut to stop it bleeding
it worked!

I imagine flour or fine semolina or talc or anything remotely absorbent would have done the same.

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 23/12/2024 18:46

RoamingGnome · 23/12/2024 18:37

Would you rather have a LRTI or an URTI? lower respiratory tract infection vs upper (hint - upper is way less serious)

A proper description of the part or parts infected, e.g. bronchitis (there was a time when I was getting that every year).

MissAmbrosia · 23/12/2024 18:46

DD (about 8) broke her wrist in France on holiday, and had it reset under GA. Whilst waiting for surgery they gave her a suppository Pain Killer. When discharged the next day, they gave us a box. She was having none of it - said she'd rather it hurt. Luckily calpol seemed sufficient - though she wasn't telling if not.

godmum56 · 23/12/2024 18:48

Mooi · 23/12/2024 18:28

Try enerzade by todddrinks they use the original recipe with sugar, it’s been a life saver for when I have a migraine.

Thank you!

MILLYmo0se · 23/12/2024 18:49

JustAMiddleAgedDirtBagBaby · 23/12/2024 18:42

After a brutal delivery with DS (20y ago) I was really anaemic and went to my GP, who was an Italian man of fatherly manner. I was exhausted and tearful, and he held my hand and said "my dear, I would like to prescribe you steak, Chianti, and two weeks in Sicily, but alas, it will have to be iron tablets"

I still think of him fondly.

My GP says she really needs to prescribe me a weeks holiday in the sun twice a year for osteoporosis but calcium and a crappy (she doesn't call it crappy tho I don't think she's any more impressed with it than I am) injection has to do

HashTagLil · 23/12/2024 18:50

SirChenjins · 23/12/2024 13:47

I remember feeling like I was asking for heroin for my teenage son who had a sore throat when we were out sightseeing on holiday in Germany - all I wanted was some paracetamol and Strepsils (or the German equivalent) and was told (in no uncertain terms) no, there was no need. Instead we were given some herbal pastilles for him to suck which did FA. Luckily I had some heroin back at the holiday house which I’d sneaked into the country.

Your last sentence. Is that a typo?!

😮

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 23/12/2024 18:51

6 months for weaning in Germany too, although the baby food companies are allowed to sell their jars with 'from 4 months' on Hmm Then, unless you do BLW, there's a very specific sequence of purees you're supposed to give, at lunchtime and evenings initially. (We did BLW and mashed-up stuff).

MissAmbrosia · 23/12/2024 18:51

In Belgium, you can only buy paracetamol etc in the pharmacy and it costs a fortune. We always stock up when back in UK. Basically apart from vitamin pills, all OTC type stuff is only available in the pharmacy. Strangely there are lot of them.

rebmacesrevda · 23/12/2024 18:51

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 23/12/2024 18:46

A proper description of the part or parts infected, e.g. bronchitis (there was a time when I was getting that every year).

That would require a chest X-ray, which is unnecessary in most cases of chest infection. Whether it's bronchitis or non-severe pneumonia, the treatment is the same, so there's no need to differentiate which part of the lung is affected. Hence "chest infection" is used to cover all LRTIs.

A severe chest infection requiring hospital admission would warrant a chest X-ray, and would get a more specific diagnosis i.e. pneumonia.

HPandthelastwish · 23/12/2024 18:52

@HashTagLil you need to read it again.

First line says she felt like getting Strepsils in Germany was like buying heroin. So she's refering to having the 'heroin' (Strepsils) at their accomodation instead

Shinybear · 23/12/2024 18:53

My in laws are all Ukrainian. In Ukraine they believe that sitting on cold surfaces makes you infertile.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 23/12/2024 18:55

newtlover · 23/12/2024 16:35

I think a lot of folk remedies for simple ailments work either by placebo or because the ailment is self limiting anyway eg drink lots of hot water for 2 weeks =cold cured
for my kids at primary, the cure for everything was a wet paper towel

Omg i remember the wet paper towel 😂😂😂😂

TheLittleOldWomanWhoShrinks · 23/12/2024 18:55

On prescribing holidays, another German thing is the Kur - usually three weeks in a Kur centre (like quite a basic hotel, usually in the countryside or at the coast) doing exercise, having therapies and resting. You often get these after operations or serious illnesses/heavy treatment, but you can also apply for one every few years to recover from the stresses and strains of parenting/learn coping strategies. This will depend a bit on your circumstances but I don't think they're very difficult to get. You can take your children (who will be provided with schooling there) or go alone. I've never done one as I can't imagine anything worse than group Nordic walking and forced mealtime socialising with people who happen to also be parents, but I know a lot of mums love them and make friends there.

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